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[Hammmzzzaaa]

The text does not demand that they are separate persons.

I disagree with u at this point the Jews told John
"Why then do you baptize if you are not the Christ, NOR Elijah, NOR the Prophet?”

I think that the verse is very clear that they are 3 different entities

 

[Hammmzzzaaa]

There is no contradiction here, unless you make the assumption that a person cannot be both the Christ and the Prophet .

Most of us embody several roles at one time - father, leader, teacher, colleague, husband, son, follower, learner, friend - and it does not cause any difficulty.

I didn't say that someone can't be Christ and a prophet
I said that someone can't be god and a prophet

And I explained why more than once, but u guys still didn't get the point
Well let meask u a question hekuran

Can u give me a definition for a "prophet"

 

[Hekuran]

I offered a definition back in post 72. At the time it didn't cause a problem for you.

The Christian understanding of a prophet is someone who speaks on behalf of God, and with the authority of God. Would most Muslims agree with that definition?

Isn't difficulty you have with the idea of God being a prophet concealing a still bigger issue, which is that of God taking on flesh and living as a man.

If you can accept the possibility that at a point in time God has chosen to live a human life, then surely it would be possible to accept that he would have a prophetic voice.

 

[Hammmzzzaaa]

I offered a definition back in post 72. At the time it didn't cause a problem

Sorry I forgot that definition
So tell me, what does "someone who speaks on behalf of God" means

Doesn't it indicate that the prophet is someone other than god and is speaking on behalf of him?
This means that no one can be god and prophet at the same time
If u say that, this means that u say " god speaks on behalf of god" what does that mean?

A prophet is someone who speaks on behalf of god not god
A prophet is a messenger god sent him to guide people, and ofcourse no one can be the sender and the messenger in the same time

 

[David777]

Hello Hammmzzzaaa.

A prophet, defintion.

I think the following will give us an idea of what a real prophet is:

24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.

25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

26And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.

28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

Ezekiel 1 (NKJV)


This I think is a prophet, notice the prostate position of the prophet.

One whom recieves the revelation from God.

These prophets could never look at God, not even in the revelation.

This prophet Ezekiel did not understand what he saw. No prophet ever did understand the revelations they recieved. These revelations concerned ONE who would arrive later in history.

Only after the fulfillment of the prophecy do we understand what these revelations concerned.

 

[Hammmzzzaaa]

This I think is a prophet, notice the prostate position of the prophet.

One whom recieves the revelation from God.

Actually this stenghthens my idea
A prophet receives the revelation from god, which means that he is someone other than god and no one can be a prophet and god at the same time
Or else, then u have to say that " god receives the revelation from god"
What does that mean?