Many christians believe that we are in those final days of this world age. The signs or the prophecies that have come to past would sure indicate we are near. Two prophecies that have come to past in the last few years, same sex marriage made legal through out this land and the constant on going effort, drive God out of everything, are a pretty strong indicator. Never in the history of the USA have we seen these things taking place on a legal basis. God said when you see the things happening, His appearance is getting near. With that being said, the most important thing Christians need to have clear in their minds is knowing which Christ to whorship when He returns to this earth. ??? What, there is more than one Christ coming to earth!!! Yes my friends, we have anti-Christ and we have the true Christ. We have two super natural entities about to appear here on earth and both will claim to be JESUS CHRIST. Here my friends is the greatest test for each and every Christian, do you know the real Christ when He appears. To bend your knee to the wrong Christ is failure to a Christian and it will a thousands later before that Christian get a chance to redeem themselves before the true Christ. One will have to run through the LORD'S DAY, also known as the millennium, that one thousand year period, set up by God for the redeemtion of those that have failed the test of being able to recognizing the true Christ. What a shame for a Christian to have spent their whole life following a God's word and to chose the wrong Christ. What one must know is that anti- Christ is not coming warring and killing, he is coming portraying to be JESUS CHRIST. God's word says that many Christian's will will worship anti -Christ, thinking he is the true Christ. Which Christ comes first? Get it right my friends, you only have one opportunity. This is the real test for each and everyone, does he or she know the real Christ when He appears.
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Thank-you brother for pointing that out.
I'll be moving this thread to "Evidence & Prophecy" Brother @Beresheet
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Thank-you brother for pointing that out.
I'll be moving this thread to "Evidence & Prophecy" Brother @Beresheet
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If Jesus Christ is living on the inside of a believer would that not give you a clue to who the false is since they are not the same person?
2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test!
2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test!
One would have to be familiar with the seven seals, the seven trumps, the seven vials, the SEAL OF GOD and what God says about anti-Christ, how cunning, how sly, and the trickery this super natural entity will show the world in the sight of man. Anti-Christ is coming portraying to be the true Christ. He will enter the world in the same manner the true Christ will enter. He will look like Christ, act like Christ, and sound like Christ. Mark 13:22 For false Christ and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elec. Rev13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. Signs and wonders are miricles my friend. Are you aware that anti-Christ has this ability, God says he does. God is saying that anti-Christ will seduce/decieve, if it were possible, even the elect. Well the ELECT won't be deceived, cause they are familiar with the seven seals, trumps, and vials, and the SEAL OF GOD, in other words they know the end time plan of God. Can't stress this enough, God is saying that anti-Christ will seduce/deceive many many and if your not one of the elect, you are in danger of being deceived and whorshipping the false Christ. This even includes the preacher man, not just the lay person. If one knows and understands who the ELECT are, then you know why they won't be seduce/decieved.
Might make mention just how important THE SEAL OF GOD is. Once, one has obtain the knowledge and wisdom of the SEAL OF GOD, you have protection from anti-Christ by God Almighty Himself. How could you go wrong by acquiring this wisdom. Rev9:4 This is God laying the law down to anti-Christ, telling what he can and can not do. Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but (ONLY) those men which (HAVE NOT) the SEAL OF GOD in their foreheads. That's to say in their minds. God telling anti-Christ, he can hurt everyone except those that have the Seal. You think it would be good to know the wisdom of the SEAL OF GOD? I would sure hope so.
God doesn't say you will be able to identify anti-Christ cause you have Christ inside you. That's not what God says. God says anti-Christ will deceive most unless you be one of the Elect or you have gain the knowledge and wisdom of THE SEAL OF GOD. My friends don't think you can out whit anti-Christ. He has been around a long time and he knows flesh man like the back of his hand. He can not read your mind but he can just about tell what your thinking, just by your body movements. We now have trained law enforcement people who have learned the language of body movements. Not that they are as skilled at it as anti-Christ.
The shame is so great to though who worship anti-Christ thinking that they were worshipping the true Christ that they say: Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: They are so ashamed to face the true Christ after making the grave mistake of worshipping anti-Christ, thinking he was the true Christ.
Might make mention just how important THE SEAL OF GOD is. Once, one has obtain the knowledge and wisdom of the SEAL OF GOD, you have protection from anti-Christ by God Almighty Himself. How could you go wrong by acquiring this wisdom. Rev9:4 This is God laying the law down to anti-Christ, telling what he can and can not do. Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but (ONLY) those men which (HAVE NOT) the SEAL OF GOD in their foreheads. That's to say in their minds. God telling anti-Christ, he can hurt everyone except those that have the Seal. You think it would be good to know the wisdom of the SEAL OF GOD? I would sure hope so.
God doesn't say you will be able to identify anti-Christ cause you have Christ inside you. That's not what God says. God says anti-Christ will deceive most unless you be one of the Elect or you have gain the knowledge and wisdom of THE SEAL OF GOD. My friends don't think you can out whit anti-Christ. He has been around a long time and he knows flesh man like the back of his hand. He can not read your mind but he can just about tell what your thinking, just by your body movements. We now have trained law enforcement people who have learned the language of body movements. Not that they are as skilled at it as anti-Christ.
The shame is so great to though who worship anti-Christ thinking that they were worshipping the true Christ that they say: Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: They are so ashamed to face the true Christ after making the grave mistake of worshipping anti-Christ, thinking he was the true Christ.
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A couple of questions brother @Beresheet
Are not those who believed sealed in the Holy Spirit? (Rev 9:4)
In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13
Also, is not the unbeliever and not the believer to be the receipiant of God's Wrath? (Rev 6:16)
But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. 1 Thessalonians 5:8-10
I'm just curious on how these conditions mentioned in Ephesians & 1 Thessalonians fits into what you are saying.
Thank-you for your consideration brother.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Are not those who believed sealed in the Holy Spirit? (Rev 9:4)
In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13
Also, is not the unbeliever and not the believer to be the receipiant of God's Wrath? (Rev 6:16)
But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. 1 Thessalonians 5:8-10
I'm just curious on how these conditions mentioned in Ephesians & 1 Thessalonians fits into what you are saying.
Thank-you for your consideration brother.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Let me say just a few things about the real test for each and everyone us who are still alive in the flesh bodies when anti-Christ and the true Christ show up on earth. This doesn't have anything do with wrath being put upon the people. This is a test for each and everyone of us, does he or she know the real Christ when he returns to earth. Yes, many Christains who have spent their whole life in church and truely love the lord, will but not all, bend their knee to or worship anti-Christ thinking he is Jesus Christ. It is written that will happen, not maybe, but will happen. It's not wrath that comes upon those who worship anti-Christ, it's just the failure of the final test. Those who fail this test will have to go through the a thousand year period known as, THE LORDS DAY, also known as the millinium, to be tested the very same way again at the end of that time period. And is says that after that thousand year period, still many will worship anti -Christ. That's hard to believe but it is written that will happen. THE VERY HIGHEST HONOR TO GOD is to over come out of the flesh and you do that by being able to stand against the false Christ, don't worship him and recognizing the true Christ, and bend your knee to Him in worship when He returns to earth. Seems so simple to me but many Christian's will fail this test. Do you want to overcome out of the flesh or do you want to overcome a thousand years later at the end of the millennium. I know what Christians want but they must be able to identify the true Christ to overcome. I will expand on this subject later today but must get ready for work.
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Yet in quoting Revelation 6:16 in post #5 that is exactly what we're talking about. How does the believer, if believer they are. Taking into consideration that Rev 6:17 that you use, include believers not specifically identified in v15 which identifies the "who", mean that we are to assume they are also included? If so, I ask again how this verse reconciles with the verses in 1 Thessalonians 5, unless you are saying that what is being quoted as being said "wrath" and what is happening during this time is not the wrath of God, but only a misguided perception of those going through the events?
Will the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of Truth, who is in us (1 Corinthians 6:19) not be able to help the believer in this situation or does the delusion preclude us communicating with Him?
"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; 17 that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you. John 14:16-17
Which still leaves me to what I asked in my other post. Concerning Ephesians 1:13 being sealed by the Holy Spirit, and your use of Revelation 9:4. Is there a difference as to being "sealed" and how does this affect if at all what you mentioned in Post #5?
If I appear hard headed or obtuse I apologize ahead of time. It's that Scripture should be like the sweetest song ever heard, from the first note to the last. We might not recognize a note here or there, but with the guidance we have, we can come to hear it with the greatest of clarity.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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I don't believe that you are hard headed brother Nick. If anything, probably my lack of ability to masterfully write and convey this very unique point in time. To be sealed on a particular thing or situation is the same, sealed meaning to know the truth about a thing or situation or a heart felt feeling towards our Father.
This time period I'm talking about here is a very unique period in time. It only pertains to those people that are still alive in these flesh bodies at the tribulation of anti Christ and the tribulation of Jesus Christ. Up till this point, all one had to do was align themselves with Gods laws and love God with all your heart and soul, and when you died you were in good standings with the Father. Here in this latter day period of time, one not only had to align themselves with Gods laws and love Him with all your heart and soul, but you are put in a situation where you are going to have to make a choice or choose on whether you will bow your knee to the true Christ or the fake Christ. Well you say, that's a no brainer, I choose the real Christ. Ok, this is where it get sticky, do you choose the first super natural entity that comes to earth claiming to be Christ or do you choose the second super natural entity that claims to be Christ. This is the make or break decision/choice for each and everyone of us who are still alive when this great event transpires. This is when the great apostasy occurs, the falling away. People start worshiping anti christ, thinking he is the true Christ.
To be sealed here is to know the chronological order in which Christ comes first. Those who believe the rapture, will more than likely choose the first super natural entity/ Christ that comes to earth. They are expecting Christ to come to earth and gather them up and take them away so they don't have to go through the tribulation of anti christ. I know Christ comes to gather his people but in what chronological order does he do that. I know this gets sticky here, but God says in the book of Ezekiel 13:18-23, He is against those that teach his people to fly to save their souls. You got to use a strong's concordance and break some of the words back into Hebrew language to capture what's actually being said here by our Father. God saying He doesn't like this pathway to salvation being taught to his people. God wants his people to take a stance and stand against anti christ when they are delivered up before him. These are real warriors here for God. They are not afraid to make that stand and won't break and run from that calling. It is a great honor for one to make that stand against anti christ for God and God praises his good and faithful servants for that stance. It just don't make sense for God's people to want to cut and run from anti christ. After all that's what the gospel armor is for, to stand against the firery darts of Satan. By the way, Satan plays the role of anti christ. Anti christ is not some flesh man. He is a super natural being capable of preforming signs and wonders if front of man, those are miracles to further the deception of the people.
There again this is a very unique day in time and pertains only to those who are still alive in these flesh bodies when this great event takes place. Those that have acquired the knowledge and wisdom of, THE SEAL OF GOD, have nothing to worry about when they are delivered up before anti christ. God has given anti Christ strick orders, touch not my Elect. And He means it. Fact, that's when the wrath of God comes down on anti Christ, is when he loses his temper and has the two witnesses killed. They are the only two flesh being killed during the tribulation of anti christ.
Hope I was able to clarify some things and didn't open up a new bag of worms with my comments about the rapture.
This time period I'm talking about here is a very unique period in time. It only pertains to those people that are still alive in these flesh bodies at the tribulation of anti Christ and the tribulation of Jesus Christ. Up till this point, all one had to do was align themselves with Gods laws and love God with all your heart and soul, and when you died you were in good standings with the Father. Here in this latter day period of time, one not only had to align themselves with Gods laws and love Him with all your heart and soul, but you are put in a situation where you are going to have to make a choice or choose on whether you will bow your knee to the true Christ or the fake Christ. Well you say, that's a no brainer, I choose the real Christ. Ok, this is where it get sticky, do you choose the first super natural entity that comes to earth claiming to be Christ or do you choose the second super natural entity that claims to be Christ. This is the make or break decision/choice for each and everyone of us who are still alive when this great event transpires. This is when the great apostasy occurs, the falling away. People start worshiping anti christ, thinking he is the true Christ.
To be sealed here is to know the chronological order in which Christ comes first. Those who believe the rapture, will more than likely choose the first super natural entity/ Christ that comes to earth. They are expecting Christ to come to earth and gather them up and take them away so they don't have to go through the tribulation of anti christ. I know Christ comes to gather his people but in what chronological order does he do that. I know this gets sticky here, but God says in the book of Ezekiel 13:18-23, He is against those that teach his people to fly to save their souls. You got to use a strong's concordance and break some of the words back into Hebrew language to capture what's actually being said here by our Father. God saying He doesn't like this pathway to salvation being taught to his people. God wants his people to take a stance and stand against anti christ when they are delivered up before him. These are real warriors here for God. They are not afraid to make that stand and won't break and run from that calling. It is a great honor for one to make that stand against anti christ for God and God praises his good and faithful servants for that stance. It just don't make sense for God's people to want to cut and run from anti christ. After all that's what the gospel armor is for, to stand against the firery darts of Satan. By the way, Satan plays the role of anti christ. Anti christ is not some flesh man. He is a super natural being capable of preforming signs and wonders if front of man, those are miracles to further the deception of the people.
There again this is a very unique day in time and pertains only to those who are still alive in these flesh bodies when this great event takes place. Those that have acquired the knowledge and wisdom of, THE SEAL OF GOD, have nothing to worry about when they are delivered up before anti christ. God has given anti Christ strick orders, touch not my Elect. And He means it. Fact, that's when the wrath of God comes down on anti Christ, is when he loses his temper and has the two witnesses killed. They are the only two flesh being killed during the tribulation of anti christ.
Hope I was able to clarify some things and didn't open up a new bag of worms with my comments about the rapture.
