Laws Of Premarital Sex

[sweet_mother]

So since my Fiance and I are not having sex until we are married what do the rules include? We have a baby already but I rather just not do anything after her it's a great way of not having another baby until I know both of us are stable in our marriage and own home. Can we pop kiss? Can we hug? I know NO groping but can we caress? I'm so lost but I don't want to break my promise with God. I also know NO masturbation so that's even more tough to be honest I think my drive is way more out of control than his so it makes it very hard on my part. I really need to know rules.

 

[spirit1st]

I think th4e act of sex is marriage ! The coming ro together !'


But the LORD says we need to also obey the laws of the land for HIS SAKE !

1Pe 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
1Pe 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
1Pe 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
1Pe 2:16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
1Pe 2:17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.


Obey the laws , that what the LORD says , if a person really wants to do something for the LORD ?

Lots refuse to obey the laws ?

I was rising with a Pastor once and told Him ? He njeeded to stop breaking the law! people in the church watch Him and see Him breaking the laws and think it must be Ok ! He got really mad !

 

[sweet_mother]

I'm sorry but, I don't understand you. I know I should obey the laws, but what are they? What are the laws of chastity? It's what I was asking in the first place.

 

[spirit1st]

I am just saying ? Marriage is when you have sex with a person innercourse ! That begins the marriage !

Jdg_19:25 But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.
1Sa_1:19 And they rose up in the morning early, and worshipped before the LORD, and returned, and came to their house to Ramah: and Elkanah knew Hannah his wife; and the LORD remembered her.
1Ki_1:4 And the damsel was very fair, and cherished the king, and ministered to him: but the king knew her not.

Lots of words in the bible is used with different meanings ! That why we must have our eyes opened to the truth by the HOLY GHOST!

We should be virgins when we marry ! Because ? We become one spiritually with the one we are to be with ! It a bonding that takes place and it Holy too GOD !

God will forgive us if we did mess up ? But it dangerous for us to be fooling around ? It can bring sickness and even death and cause many too suffer over our sins ?

It really a very hard thing for men and Women to overcome ! As God put that desire in us ! But it was only met for marriage !

Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


Mat_5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.


Marriage is too be as long as we live ! Yet i know it can be impossible to stay married sometimes ?

 

[sweet_mother]

I am just saying ? Marriage is when you have sex with a person innercourse ! That begins the marriage !

Jdg_19:25 But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.
1Sa_1:19 And they rose up in the morning early, and worshipped before the LORD, and returned, and came to their house to Ramah: and Elkanah knew Hannah his wife; and the LORD remembered her.
1Ki_1:4 And the damsel was very fair, and cherished the king, and ministered to him: but the king knew her not.

Lots of words in the bible is used with different meanings ! That why we must have our eyes opened to the truth by the HOLY GHOST!

We should be virgins when we marry ! Because ? We become one spiritually with the one we are to be with ! It a bonding that takes place and it Holy too GOD !

God will forgive us if we did mess up ? But it dangerous for us to be fooling around ? It can bring sickness and even death and cause many too suffer over our sins ?

It really a very hard thing for men and Women to overcome ! As God put that desire in us ! But it was only met for marriage !

Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


Mat_5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.


Marriage is too be as long as we live ! Yet i know it can be impossible to stay married sometimes ?

Well than I'll just stay away from him until we're married.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

sweet_mother,

I assume you have asked Jesus into your heart or you would not be asking this question.

It is good that you are interested in doing right now. It is never to late to repent of your sins and turn away from them.

Any sex out side of marriage is called fornication.


Sex
Mark 10:6-9
6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


1 Corinthians 6:13-20
13 Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

 

[spirit1st]

Nothing wrong outside marriage to spend time together ! Just need if you can not to be having sex ! Building a relationship is good ! You get to know each others and each ones desires in the marriage ! And what is expected ? You need to Know lots about each other !Before comitting your self to a life together !
If One is a christian ? They are Not to marry another who is not a christian ! Also the type of church you both will be going too ? How your Both going to raise the children ? How your going to provide for the family ? Most of all i guess ? Is What you both Do not like and how the others going to deal with those things ?
Because there going to be things that can be deal breakers in some relationships?

But if both are given over to the LORD and willing to follow HIm ? Then there should not be problems !

2Co_6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

but from what you say ? It appears too me He is a man of God! Praise the LORD!

Still He must be able to put you above His family and protect and bless you ! Us as Men , must put our wives and children first duty in Our LORD Eyes!
1Ti_5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Lots of men are taught the church they go too comes first ! That a lie!

 

[sweet_mother]

We still hug but I haven't kissed him So I didn't know if that was forbidden as well. I've been controlling myself pretty good and so has he. I really made a promise with God I don't want to break it I know my covenant with him goes first. We can't sleep in separate rooms as some other people have too because we're parents so we have no choice but we just keep our sides of the bed. I'm not going to fornicate but is it okay to kiss? or hug? We were never non believers we just strayed so we weren't dedicated to the church but we always believed in God, we just want to make things right with him and also for the future of our little girl.

 

[Willie Vegas Jr]

i believe that a kiss is ok, back in the day people kissed all the time to show how glad they were to see you. I totally understand your passion drive because mine was like the same in some ways. If passion is something you have a problem with send me a msg and i will send you a link telling the story of how one christian overcame her lust. It helped me out too

 

[AbbysAunt]

Hi Sweet_Mother,

I saw this post and wanted to respond to you and the questions you asked.

Romans 6:12-14 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

You asked about the rules of not having sex outside of marraige. The best answer I can give you is that Jesus who was under the law fullfilled the law. He is the law and in obeying Him and abiding in Him you are obeying the law. Go to Him in prayer about this. If you are feeling that kissing and hugging right now at this point would lead you to do something you don't want to do then please don't do those things. Instead go to prayer and talk to God about them. The rules are don't do anything that you feel is compromising the promise you made to God. He will lead you and guide you in this promise and decision.

I wanted to address something else too. Sex does not begin a marriage what begins a marriage is the commitment you make to one another to stand by each other for better for worse, richer or poorer, in sickness and health, forsaking all others till death do you part. Love is more than just stating those words of commitment it's acting on them and honoring them in your marriage. Then as you come together as husband and wife knowing in your hearts that you will not only honor each other for the rest of your lives but most importantly honor God in your marriage all the days of your lives this is love. When you come together as husband and wife sexually you know within your hearts that yes this is the person God has given to me and the person I am going to be with for the rest of my life and the only one I will ever give myself too it's then that having sex can and does show love.

1 Cor. 18-20 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit which are God's.

You are God's child and His precious child. He loves you so much and will be there to help you through this. Stay in His word, pray to Him often and know that you are being lifted in prayer by many others to Him. God bless you Sweet_Mother now and always.

AA

 

[Cote Dawg]

I just made a thread similar to this one without realizing this one existed. After reading this and all the comments, I realize a lot more about what I should do with my relationship to my fiancé and with God.

 

[sintheticg]

if your fiance is also a believer it is his responsibility as a man to be the spiritual leader of the household, you are commanded by God to submit yourself unto him. If he is initiating sex you as the weaker vessel are not held accountable, he is. Your responsibility is to pray like no other to your Lord that he lead your fiance to the same conclusions he has laid upon your heart.

Marriage is not a piece of paper issued by the state, it is a vow before God, you may not have spoke your vows in a ceremony but you've begun a family and are living together, in my opinion you are married, you may as well just get the ceremony over with.

I've been in a similar situation but I was the male figure, I began the relationship a lost sinner, midway through i heard the gospel and was saved, i began to feel conviction and my decision to follow God cost me the relationship with my fiance and she also aborted my child. I know it's hard, but he is sufficient.

I pray God would reveal his perfect will in your life and your fiances life and for you to have great peace in following the Lord how he leads you.

 

[drakek]

this is ok

Yes i think normal kiss and hugging is ok in this matter.