I have been thinking recently about laws and the need for governing what people do. When we are going to find a basis for how we should do things it must always begin with God. For we are told that there is but one lawgiver who is able to save and destroy. If the righteousness of God was manifest in the flesh then all law should be based solely upon that righteousness.
Lets consider what law is for a moment. When God created law he created it for the lawless and disobedient sinners. The righteous needs no law to govern them. Now we know that sin is the transgression of the law. Therefore, when you write laws, whether you be a parent, business owner, government official or a forum administrator, you are defining sin and morality. As a Christian leader in one of these positions, your laws you enact must reflect Gods morality and definition of sin or you are calling Gods ways immoral and he a sinner.
If as a legislator I ban the use of the bible in public schools as an instrument of teaching truth about creation, then I have in fact called God a liar and rejected his truth and am obviously not a Christian.
But the reason I was pondering this issue was not because of government or anything to that nature. The reason was due to the forum rules here. This forum is called Talk Jesus and is said to be for Christians to discuss relevant topics.
First question is:
If Christians are righteous people why do they need laws to govern them in a forum?
Of the ten commandments (laws) put forth here you find this one "Provide Scripture when making a biblical point". I have in the past received a friendly reminder to please provide Chapter, book and verse when posting. The author referred back to the forum rules as their authority. I can only guess that this is the way to interpret the original law of "Provide Scripture" to mean chapter, book and verse.
Second question is:
Is this a righteous Law?
If all Law is to be based off of the person of Christ as he is the righteousness of God manifest in the flesh, then shouldn't we look to him for the answer to this question? If the law is made for the unrighteous sinner then our laws would be laws that Christ would automatically follow by nature without ever having heard of them.
Third question is:
If Christ were here would he provide chapter, book and verse when making a biblical point?
During his temptation he referenced the word of God without reference to any specific book. Of all of the times Christ referenced the Word of God by saying it is written, not once did he give a specific reference. Neither did his apostles show much of a need to do so either. The very fact remains that their are verse reference bibles available because they didn't give references when they spoke. The bible instead teaches that we are more noble if we search the scriptures daily to see if those things we are told are so.
The bottom line is that Laws are made to point out sin. If your law here is truly based on biblical principle then those who break the law are sinners.
Be very careful. There are many people in scripture who do not provide scriptural references when making a point including the Lord Jesus Christ. To make a law stating you must do so is to call Jesus a sinner. And further more your law comes attached to judgement that you say will happen upon breaking the laws. In doing so you will be condemning the innocent. Jesus commanded that we judge righteous judgement. It may be nice to provide someone your teaching with a scriptural reference point to review if they are in fact weak in their studies but to say it is sin? I don't think so.
Would you like me to provide scriptural references for these biblical points? Or will you be more noble than they in Thessalonica?
Your brother in Christ,
Gary
In accordance with 1 Pe 2:13 your scripture references can be found below.
Jas 4:12, Rom 3:21 , 1 Tim 1:9 , 1 Jn 3:4, Mat 4:4-10, Act 17:11, Jn 7:24,
Lets consider what law is for a moment. When God created law he created it for the lawless and disobedient sinners. The righteous needs no law to govern them. Now we know that sin is the transgression of the law. Therefore, when you write laws, whether you be a parent, business owner, government official or a forum administrator, you are defining sin and morality. As a Christian leader in one of these positions, your laws you enact must reflect Gods morality and definition of sin or you are calling Gods ways immoral and he a sinner.
If as a legislator I ban the use of the bible in public schools as an instrument of teaching truth about creation, then I have in fact called God a liar and rejected his truth and am obviously not a Christian.
But the reason I was pondering this issue was not because of government or anything to that nature. The reason was due to the forum rules here. This forum is called Talk Jesus and is said to be for Christians to discuss relevant topics.
First question is:
If Christians are righteous people why do they need laws to govern them in a forum?
Of the ten commandments (laws) put forth here you find this one "Provide Scripture when making a biblical point". I have in the past received a friendly reminder to please provide Chapter, book and verse when posting. The author referred back to the forum rules as their authority. I can only guess that this is the way to interpret the original law of "Provide Scripture" to mean chapter, book and verse.
Second question is:
Is this a righteous Law?
If all Law is to be based off of the person of Christ as he is the righteousness of God manifest in the flesh, then shouldn't we look to him for the answer to this question? If the law is made for the unrighteous sinner then our laws would be laws that Christ would automatically follow by nature without ever having heard of them.
Third question is:
If Christ were here would he provide chapter, book and verse when making a biblical point?
During his temptation he referenced the word of God without reference to any specific book. Of all of the times Christ referenced the Word of God by saying it is written, not once did he give a specific reference. Neither did his apostles show much of a need to do so either. The very fact remains that their are verse reference bibles available because they didn't give references when they spoke. The bible instead teaches that we are more noble if we search the scriptures daily to see if those things we are told are so.
The bottom line is that Laws are made to point out sin. If your law here is truly based on biblical principle then those who break the law are sinners.
Be very careful. There are many people in scripture who do not provide scriptural references when making a point including the Lord Jesus Christ. To make a law stating you must do so is to call Jesus a sinner. And further more your law comes attached to judgement that you say will happen upon breaking the laws. In doing so you will be condemning the innocent. Jesus commanded that we judge righteous judgement. It may be nice to provide someone your teaching with a scriptural reference point to review if they are in fact weak in their studies but to say it is sin? I don't think so.
Would you like me to provide scriptural references for these biblical points? Or will you be more noble than they in Thessalonica?
Your brother in Christ,
Gary
In accordance with 1 Pe 2:13 your scripture references can be found below.
Jas 4:12, Rom 3:21 , 1 Tim 1:9 , 1 Jn 3:4, Mat 4:4-10, Act 17:11, Jn 7:24,
