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Life-style Danger!

hadirfuss

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Galatians 5:19-21 “Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.”

There is a grave danger lurking ahead for some who profess to be Christians. It is the danger of being deceived into thinking that we will not be held accountable for a continued lifestyle of sin. The Bible says, “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Cor. 6:9-10).”

The sinful acts of the flesh described in Galations 5:19-21 is a reference to a lifestyle -- not mere isolated acts of sin. If believers “fall” into such sins, and sincerely repent (1 John 1:9), God will forgive and restore His fellowship. But a continued “lifestyle” identified with this behavior reveals an absence of God’s presence — a soul who is lost, destined to spend eternity in the lake of fire (Rev 21:8). “Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who does what is good is from God. Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God” (3 John 1:11 NIV).

The following is a list of the 17 mentioned sinful works of the flesh, along with the original Greek words and their definition. The Bible warns that persons with these kind of lifestyle acts will not inherit the kingdom of God. So, read them carefully and take a self examination of your own life.

1. Adultery - MOICHEUO — “...to apostate (to depart), or to break the marriage covenant.” The Hebrew word for adultery, NAAPH, is similar, meaning to break wedlock. The word adultery does not necessarily refer to sex, but deals primarily with the betrayal of a sacred covenant and commitment. Adultery is a sin of unfaithfulness (Matthew 5:28).

2. Fornication - PORNEIA — “Harlotry, sexual impurity [sometimes used as a spiritual metaphor of idolatry].” This would include premarital sex, homosexual sex or any sexual activity outside the sanctions of marriage (1 Cor. 6:18).

3. Uncleanness - AKATHARSIA — “Impure, or foul, [demonic]” (2 Cor. 7:1).

4. Lewdness - ASELGEIA — “Licentiousness, lasciviousness, lack of restraint” (1 Cor. 9:25).

5. Idolatry - EIDOLOLATRES — “Image worship.” Idolatry is often associated with worshipping an idol, but scripture links it to covetousness (Col. 3:5), because it can also be the worship of material possessions.

6. Sorcery - PHARMAKEIA — “Drugs, magic, witchcraft [that which deceives, manipulates or controls.]” (1 Sam. 15:23).

7. Hatred - ECHTHRA — “Hostility, opposition, enmity.” (1 John 3:15) Bitterness, hatred and unforgiveness is contrary to every principle of Christianity (1 John 3:15), inasmuch as those who retain unforgiveness cannot be forgiven of their own sins (Matt. 6:14-15).

8. Contentions - ERIS — “Quarrel, wrangle, Variance, contention, debate, strife” (Col. 3:12-13).

9. Jealousy - ZELOS — “Heat” jealous, envy, indignation, emulation (zeal) from ZEO; hot or boil.”

10. Wrath - THUMOS — “Passion [as if breathing hard], fierceness, or indignation” (James 1:20). Romans 2:8-9 says that those who are contentious and who yield to indignation and wrath, are doing evil, and can expect tribulation and anguish.

11. Selfish Ambition - ERITHEIA — “Faction, contention [provocation]” (James 3:16).

12. Dissension - DICHOSTASIA — “Disunion, dissension, division” (Rom. 16:17).

13. Heresies - HAIRESIS — “A choice, disunion, or sect. [from HAIREOMAI ‘to take for one’s self,’ or to prefer.]” Heresy is a term which can describe false teachings, but it means even more than that. It is teaching of certain “preferences” which brings disunity in the body, and draws persons apart into dissenting groups. Heresy does not necessarily have to be false teaching, but can be pressing opinions which serve to divide, rather than unite God’s people (2 Pet. 2:1).

14. Envy - PHTHONOS — “Jealousy, spite, ill-will” (2 Cor. 12:20).

15. Murders - PHONOS — “Slaughter, unjust killings” (John 8:44).

16. Drunkenness - METHE — “Intoxication, under the influence, drunk” (Eph. 5:18).

17. Revelries - komos — Rioting, wild partying [letting loose] (1 Pet. 4:3).

As we have already stated, the Bible warns “...they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God” (Gal. 5:21). It goes without saying, this is an extremely serious warning.

Unfortunately, there are professing believers... people who go to church on Sundays, who assume that because they call Jesus their Lord, He’ll wink at these so-called little “character flaws.” However, Jesus warned that not all those who profess to be His followers would enter heaven — only those who follow Him with their lives. “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven” (Matt. 7:21).

If one’s lifestyle consists of works of the flesh, there’s only one thing can detour their dreadful destination. They must repent and forsake a lifestyle of sin, to turn about and live for the Lord. Repentance means to “turn around and walk in a new lifestyle” (2 Cor 7:10).

Any person who truly repents and becomes born-again, is empowered by the Spirit of God to walk in a new lifestyle. The Scriptures say that “old things pass away and all things become new” (1 Cor. 5:17). Instead of justifying continued sinful behavior, persons who wish to follow Christ must forsake a lifestyle of sin and walk in the newness of Christ’s life. “Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires” (Rom. 6:12 NIV).

Do not misunderstand. In no way do we suggest that you must “earn” salvation by doing good works (Eph. 2:8-9) — nor are we implying that Christians will never stumble in sin or imperfection (1 John 2:1). But what we are saying is that a genuine experience of salvation “produces” good works (James 2:20) — in effect, a godly change in a person’s lifestyle. The same Holy Spirit who brings grace to cover all our sins (Rom. 8:2), also brings a new nature, to which we are to yield our lives. “Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh” (Gal 5:16).

Confess and forsake Sin

His grace and forgiveness is available for all manner of sin, whatever it may be. Jesus will forgive all sins that we confess to Him (1 John 1:9) — but remember, we must also “forsake” them. “He who covers his sins will not prosper, But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy” (Prov. 28:13).

True repentance means that we will make every effort not to repeat our former sins and will seek to walk in the nature of Christ. Such was David’s desire in his repentant prayer. “Hide Your face from my sins, And blot out all my iniquities. Create in me a clean heart, O God, And renew a steadfast spirit within me” (Psa. 51:9-10).


 
Excellent thread sister thank you for the time typing this out nicely!

Its a great thread with valuable informaiton simplified and clarified.

When we look at these things that GOD hates in which we are all guilty of just about all of these sins/abominations, all I can say is thank you Jesus Christ for your grace on us. Our Savior GOD deserves all the glory for His grace, we are filthy rags but GOD loves us anyway (John 3:16)
 
Do you think that maybe the one practicing adultery could be applied to persons remarried? The girl I am seeing is getting interested in Christ, but she is divorced. Some people believe remarriage to be a constant state of adultery. Would these types of lists that appear in numerous places in the bible that always include adulterers apply to these types of situations do you think? I certainly hope not for my sake and the sake of any Christians who have had the misfortune of marrying someone divorced: X Any thoughts?
 
I would remember that patience drives out deception. And read your bible. Lord give him a calm spirit, clean heart, wise attitude and faithful way towards Your answers, that You will fulfill his needs to know all he really should, if he just waits upon Your devine will for him...You'll deliver, amen. Thank You Jesus.
 
I would remember that patience drives out deception. And read your bible. Lord give him a calm spirit, clean heart, wise attitude and faithful way towards Your answers, that You will fulfill his needs to know all he really should, if he just waits upon Your devine will for him...You'll deliver, amen. Thank You Jesus.

I'm not sure if this post is directed to me or not :D Honestly though, those lists that appear in the new testament of "Your not in, nope not you either, and not you, and not you either, and no not you, and your not either..." always include adultery, and I'm not going to argue with scripture and it says that marrying a divorced person is adultery. I just don't get it. I'm pretty new to the faith, but I have studied my brains out on this issue for weeks. Some say it's only the initial act of remarriage that is adultery, but I just don't know how you could see it that way, it seems so illogical. I have a feeling I could make an eternal mistake. I understand that God is kind, but he isn't soft. (That is said somewhere in Hebrews, but I can't remember where)

Even John Macarthur, who is like my favorite bible study guide, seems to think it is a state of adultery, but if you find yourself in that kind of Union he says not to try to "unscramble the egg". I don't see why you wouldn't... I want to do what’s right, but this issue is so blurred and so many people say simply "No it isn't, it's like this:” but many people have different views on the issue and not everyone can be right. It probably boils down to I don't know God well enough, but even those who know him very well seem to disagree on the issue. This issue has sometimes made me wish I hadn't come into existence so that I wouldn't be in such a place where I could make such a mistake.

Some will say, "If you have Christ then you don't have to worry, as long as you try to do what is right he wont hold your feet to the fire", but I have heard it implied "if you continue in behavior like that then it proves you don't have Christ at all." So it seems to boil down to the idea of if you do it your damned... maybe. I'm sick of it frankly. Maybe I should "Eunuch myself" hehe. I don't know.

EDIT: looking for another verse. The translation I tend to lean on is the NASB, and where yours says adultery mine says immorality/impurity. However Corinthians 6:9-10 does say it pretty much the way your translation says it.
 
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It sounds to me that you've already jumped into the water, and then asked bystanders and onlookers "how do I swim?" Who did Peter call to when he began to sink, the ones in the boat?
And why did he step out of the boat at all? He saw what his Father was doing..as Christ said and did Himself. Wait on wisdom, gather understanding. Those who are of Christ follow as Christ. Get in a lonely place and seek the Lord's will over your life before it's too late, and suffering ensues. I can only lead you to Him. You'll be ok, it's simple...wait on the Lord, and He'll rescue you, with a Word of understanding, knowledge and grace, amen.
 
DEAR JCULVER::
Let's define adultery.

ADULTERY: Adultery is generally defined as consensual sexual intercourse by a married person with someone other than his or her lawful spouse.

FORNICATION: Fornication means to have sexual intercourse outside of marriage.

If you are sleeping with another person's spouse, obviously that's wrong( =adultery)! If you're sleeping with someone outside of marriage, that's also wrong ( =fornication). No, God will not send fire down from heaven....But the reason he tells us not to do these things, isn't to just make up rules. It's because he knows the consequences of wrong actions.

Would you want your spouse to be sleeping with someone else? NO! You've both made a covenant together by getting married.

Possible consequences of sleeping around with people outside of marriage include: aids, diseases, having a baby out of wedlock, confusion.

But if you're dating someone's Ex-spouse (they're no longer married to that spouse and have no commitments due to that person!), then that's not wrong! As long as you're not married either!


Divorce: God hates divorce because of the damage it does to a family, especially when there's kids involved. It makes things tough. However, I believe that if there is ABUSE involved, OF COURSE, common sense would say GET OUT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP! And I believe it's Okay to divorce based on verbal/physical Abuse. I also think it's ok to divorce due to unfaithfulness in the marriage, if you choose to divorce. But to divorce because you just want a divorce, is wrong, to me. Malachi 2:16 -"For the Lord God of Israel says That He hates divorce, For it covers one's garment with violence," Says the Lord of hosts.

However, I think you're wondering about this scripture:

Matthew 5:32 NKJV
"But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery."

--I'd have to read the WHOLE context of this scripture. I do not know why it would be considered adultery to marry a divorced person, since they're no longer obligated to that person through marriage? However, again I don't know, just having read this verse alone, what the context of scripture is for this verse.

Like, I don't know if it is saying this: If you, the guy, who was married to a woman, divorces his wife just because it's a way to avoid issues, then you are causing her, after you divorce, to give her heart to another man (possibly sleep with someone else's husband), because you weren't willing to work through the marriage and hard times. OR is it saying, due to the sexual binding that takes place in a marriage, by you issuing a divorce and following through, for any reason except unfaithfulness, you're then "throwing her" out there to be vulnerable to sleeping with someone else. OK WOW. That scripture definitely could be misinterpreted, but I know that God isn't the author of confusion! SO, I'd like to further research this scripture as well!

I know that your heart is in the right spot b/c you're wanting to know the truth. I know God says to SEEk and we'd Find, KNock and the door would be open.... and you're seeking truth. Ask God to reveal to you how to go about handling this situation. His spirit in YOU will bear witness with Scripture.

Hope this helps! One last thing, I just thought about. The law is set up to keep people in check. It's also to keep ppl out of trouble! If everyone just kept getting divorced remarried, divorced remarried, that's not good! Although, our society would say it's ok. But, marriage should be something not done on the spur of the moment, but out of careful consideration! A lot of thought. It's a COMMITMENT! Are you willing to spend forever with someone and to be faithful to them forever?
 
Matthew 5:32 NKJV
"But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery."

--I'd have to read the WHOLE context of this scripture. I do not know why it would be considered adultery to marry a divorced person, since they're no longer obligated to that person through marriage? However, again I don't know, just having read this verse alone, what the context of scripture is for this verse.

Very simply because God does not recognize the end of a marriage. In his eyes it is "Till Death Do You Part". He gives a couple of exception clauses, but really if your divorce was not on biblical grounds your new marriage is an adulterous affair. Anyway I don't want to get into this issue a whole lot more, and I will summarize that even the ministers and teachers of the bible who are just hard as nails like John Macarthur still say you should not end a union if you are in one regardless of what type of union it is. I simply do not understand why you would not.

Anyway I am done on the issue, and I just can't care about it anymore cause it is making me ill or something. I am just tired ALL the time for some reason and I have been sleeping like 12 hours a day. I think it's because I'm still fighting this infection, but I don't know. This problem seems to be draining the life out of me hehe.

I feel like I have set the stage for God as much as possible. She is going to try to reconcile her marriage, and if he wont go for it then I figure we have done all we can do. Thanks for the replies guys ;)
 
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