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Sue J Love

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Tuesday, June 9, 2015, 10:14 p.m. – The song “Hallelujah,” from the animated movie “Shrek” is still going through my mind today. The song speaks of lust, allurement, adultery, fornication, trickery, deceit, cover-ups, temptation, yielding to temptation, lies, murder, war, the conquering of kingdoms, and celebrations of war victories (conquered kingdoms). It also speaks of mouths which voice empty (cold) “hallelujahs,” i.e. “Glory to God.”

So, the song has a theme of hypocrisy, of not living up to the moral standards by which we claim allegiance, and of using the name of God to justify our evil deeds and our unholy wars. It also speaks of secrecy, lack of wisdom and discernment, and of arrogance in thinking we can’t fall, but we can. As well, it speaks of complacency and apathy, and lack of concern for truthfulness and integrity, and of using lame excuses for why we didn’t obey God, I believe. The song ends by questioning the existence of God and by cynically expressing the sad reality of war, especially those fought in the name of God, but by those who dishonored God and who gave lip service only to God – cold and broken hallelujahs.

Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Ephesians 5:1-21 (ESV).

Walk in Love (vv. 1-2)

Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

What does it mean to be an imitator of God? It means we follow God/Christ and we emulate him, i.e. we follow the example he has given to us on how to love, serve, and obey him, on how to love and minister to the needs of others, and on how to live godly and holy lives, pleasing to him. So, if we want to follow him, and emulate him, we have to know him, who he is, what he is about, what goes through his mind, his passions and compassions, and his heart. We have to know his divine will and purposes, to the best of our understanding, and his character and personality. And, the way we get to know him is first of all by believing in Jesus Christ as Lord and as Savior of our lives, by the Spirit, via death to sin and living to righteousness, and then by spending time in his word each day, in listening to him speak his truths to our hearts, and then by doing what his word teaches us we should do.

And, we are to walk (conduct our lives) in love (god-like love), as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. This reminds me of Romans 12 where it teaches us to offer our bodies (our whole being) to God as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God, which is our reasonable service of worship of him; no longer conformed to the ways of this sinful world, but transformed in the renewing of our minds, so that we may give evidence of God’s good, pleasing and perfect will for our lives. This kind of love is selfless, and considers the good of others over one’s own comfort and even reputation. This kind of love is truthful, and shows integrity, and is honorable and trustworthy, and does not use trickery, lies or manipulations to get its way. It is faithful, moral and upright, and it gives up its own life for the benefit and goodwill of others, but not according to human standards, but according to God’s standards of what is best for us.

Not Named (vv. 3-14a)

But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light.

Paul said that these sins must not even be named among them. Now, he didn’t mean they should not be addressed if they existed, since he was certainly naming them for that purpose, so what could he have meant? Perhaps his meaning is more along the lines that they should not even be known (practiced) or even thought of or heard of among them. The NIV translates this to say that there should not even be a hint of sexual immorality among them. I tend to favor this interpretation, because it fits with the idea of these sins not even being heard of, because they don’t exist in any shape or form among them. This would include no sexual jokes, no sexual innuendos, no flirtations, and no being entertained by TV shows and movies and the like which hint at sexual immorality, and which have suggestive content, or flirtations between people, especially by those married to others, let alone which contain lewdness, sexual promiscuity, nudity and the like within them. I don’t believe married people should even be reading or watching romance novels/movies, because they may lead their hearts toward wanting to have someone else besides their spouse.

No one who makes a practice of these things, i.e. who walks (conducts his life) according to the flesh, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. If we walk according to the flesh, we will die, but if we walk according to the Spirit, and if, by the Spirit, we put to death (present tense, suggesting ongoing) the deeds of the flesh, we will live (See: Ro. 8:1-14). If we should sin, though, we have Jesus Christ as our advocate whose righteousness stands in our defense, because his righteousness has been credited to our account, i.e. for those who walk not after the flesh, but according to the Spirit. All this is the working of the Spirit in the lives of those who have put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ to save them from their sins, yet we must yield to the Spirit’s control and submit ourselves to the cross and to Christ for his work to have its effect in our hearts and in our lives.

Let no one deceive you with empty words. There are so many liars and deceivers in the world, in the government, and in the church. There are so many false shepherds of the people who are wolves in sheep’s clothing. They mouth empty words and promise you freedom and eternal life with God while they tell you that you don’t have to repent of your sin and that you don’t have to obey God, but that all you have to do is “believe,” although that is rarely explained. Or else they tell you that you just have to pray some prayer, and then they tell you that you are now saved, that nothing can ever take it away from you, and that you now have the hope of heaven when you die, no matter how you live your life from this day forward, and that God is pleased with you no matter what you do. Oh, how wrong! God’s wrath will come on those who choose to continue to walk in darkness while they claim to have fellowship with God. God’s word says so.

We are not to partner (join in) with them in their sin. If we are in Christ, we once walked in darkness, but now we are light in the Lord, so we should live as though we truly are children of light (all goodness, righteousness and truth), and we should find out what pleases the Lord and do it. We should have NOTHING to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, not even should there be a hint of such in our lives, but rather we should be ones who expose such evil. This, again, means we are not to be entertained by it, either.

Wake Up! (vv. 14b-21)

Therefore it says,

“Awake, O sleeper,
and arise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you.”
Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit, addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart, giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.

So, what do we need to do with all this knowledge? If we are conducting our lives according to the flesh, and not according to the Spirit, then we need to wake up from our slumber and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on us. So, how do we do that? We don’t do it in our own flesh, or by good works to try to earn God’s favor. We do it through submission to the cross and through surrender to God’s will for our lives, and by humbly repenting of our sin, and turning to God to walk in his righteousness and holiness. And, all this is possible, not because of our own righteousness, but because Jesus Christ, God the Son, gave his life for us on the cross and he took the penalty for our sin for us so that we could die to sin and live to righteousness. By his stripes we are healed! Amen!

If we are in Christ, by faith in him, we need to watch how we walk, be wise and discerning, and use our time for God for his purposes and will, because we live in a world filled with all kinds of evil and in an age of great deception, so we need to open our minds and hearts to hear what the Lord wants to say to us, and not close our minds to the Spirit’s voice. We should not do what leads to out-of-control living, but we should exercise self-control, and we should continually be putting the deeds of the flesh to death and filling our hearts and minds with the things of God, instead. The more we say “No” to sin and worldly passions and desires, and we, instead, in the power of the Spirit within us, live godly, self-controlled and upright lives while we wait for Christ’s return, the more we will be filled with the Holy Spirit, and will desire and will do what brings honor and glory to God’s name, and that which edifies and strengthens the body of Christ in their faith.

Oh, to Be Like Thee, Blessed Redeemer
Thomas O. Chisholm / W. J. Kirkpatrick

Oh, to be like Thee! blessèd Redeemer,
This is my constant longing and prayer;
Gladly I’ll forfeit all of earth’s treasures,
Jesus, Thy perfect likeness to wear.

Oh, to be like Thee! full of compassion,
Loving, forgiving, tender and kind,
Helping the helpless, cheering the fainting,
Seeking the wandering sinner to find.

O to be like Thee! lowly in spirit,
Holy and harmless, patient and brave;
Meekly enduring cruel reproaches,
Willing to suffer others to save.

Oh, to be like Thee! Oh, to be like Thee,
Blessèd Redeemer, pure as Thou art;
Come in Thy sweetness, come in Thy fullness;
Stamp Thine own image deep on my heart.
 
The song was written by a Jewish poet which originally contained some 80 verses eventually pared down to a few with a few variations. The song contains elements of Samson and Delilah, and David and Bathsheba. The author of the song practices Zen Buddhism.
 
The song was written by a Jewish poet which originally contained some 80 verses eventually pared down to a few with a few variations. The song contains elements of Samson and Delilah, and David and Bathsheba. The author of the song practices Zen Buddhism.
I did research the song "Hallelujah," and knew the author was Canadian and that he had originally written some 80 verses. I didn't know he was Jewish or that he practiced Buddhism, but I did read that the song had some variations. The song, to me, was a picture of hypocrisy through the eyes of the poet. I saw it as a picture of the state of affairs in the US modernized Laodicean-like church. The poet was cynical about God, I believe, for he saw or he read about those who claimed to know God, or who knew God, and yet their actions did not match their talks (their hallelujahs).

The song, "Hallelujah," I believe, was written through the eyes of an unbeliever, but he was looking at God through his people, for they were his window into God. And, he didn't like what he saw. Although he did acknowledge that there were "holy hallelujahs," what he was mostly seeing were "broken and cold hallelujahs." He saw those who called themselves followers of God committing adultery, murder, fornication, and denying the God they claimed to worship. He saw governments who claimed allegiance to the one true God make war with others and shed innocent blood, and so he questioned the existence of God. He questioned how this could be love.

The passage of scripture was a challenge to those of us who claim to know God, or who do know God, that we should be imitators of God, and that we should walk in love. We should not even have a hint of these types of sins among us. And, we should look carefully how we walk, not as unwise, but as wise. The world is watching us. And, we are God's representatives. They will get their picture of God and of his people by watching us. This is not to say that we have to live in sinless perfection or that the world does not wrongly accuse us, at times. But, I do believe it was a wake up call - a reminder to us that we are to be light to the world, and that we should live as children of light in this dark world instead of living just like the world around us.
 
I hadn't heard this song before reading of it in your post. After hearing it,
my heart is stirred and deeply saddened. In it, I hear the song of the ages,
hopelessly looking for truth, and something to live for. The deepest sadness
comes in knowing the Lord has heard this song for all of man's existence.

It's a timely call to abide... that the hope of Jesus' may be ours too... that 'all
the Father has given Him, will come to Him... and He will not cast them out'.
(John 6:37)
 
I hadn't heard this song before reading of it in your post. After hearing it,
my heart is stirred and deeply saddened. In it, I hear the song of the ages,
hopelessly looking for truth, and something to live for. The deepest sadness
comes in knowing the Lord has heard this song for all of man's existence.

It's a timely call to abide... that the hope of Jesus' may be ours too... that 'all
the Father has given Him, will come to Him... and He will not cast them out'.
(John 6:37)
Yes, it expresses the emptiness of the human soul without God and without hope. And, it is extremely sad. It expresses, too, that this person was searching for God, or at least was taking a look at God through the lives of those who said they knew him, and what he saw was hatred, strife, war, adultery, murder, etc. coming from those who claimed to love and worship God. And, so this song is also cynical about God and about his followers.

In light of where I was reading in scripture, I believe the Lord was having me share how we need to be the light to the world, and be imitators of God, and walk in love, and not even have a hint of these kinds of sins in our lives, because the world is watching us, and they get their view of God through us. So, we should live as children of light in this dark world so that they can see the light of Christ, and so they will want to know him.
 
In light of where I was reading in scripture, I believe the Lord was having me share how we need to be the light to the world, and be imitators of God, and walk in love, and not even have a hint of these kinds of sins in our lives, because the world is watching us, and they get their view of God through us. So, we should live as children of light in this dark world so that they can see the light of Christ, and so they will want to know him.
I didn't mean to muddle what you so clearly stated. My apologies, Sue. In saying
your post was a timely call to abide... I was essentially saying the same. (Living as
children of light can only happen as the believer abides.) Thank you for the post.

God bless!
 
I didn't mean to muddle what you so clearly stated. My apologies, Sue. In saying
your post was a timely call to abide... I was essentially saying the same. (Living as
children of light can only happen as the believer abides.) Thank you for the post.

God bless!
Thank you Lyndle, I appreciate those thoughts.

There is something particularly eerie about the lyrics to that song I can't quite put my finger on. Some of it sounds like Satan talking, yet some of it doesn't make sense in light of that interpretation. The song is sung at a particular moment in the movie (play), which I also investigated, to try to see the connection between the song and that moment in the movie, but I did not see a connection at all. I saw the movie when it first came out. I saw it with my grandchildren. 7 years ago, though, we got rid of our TV and I stopped watching movies, because there was so much junk in them, even if it was just subtle, it was still there, so I don't completely remember the plot.

Basically, An Ogre, who lives alone (this would be the reference in the lyrics to living alone) is bothered by fairy tale creatures on his property, so he seeks help from the king. The king gives him an assignment. He is to rescue a princess from a castle which is guarded by a dragon, I believe, and he is to bring the princess to the king so he can marry her (a forced marriage) and the king will get rid of the fairy tale creatures off his property. The ogre agrees, and he and his donkey set out to rescue the princess and to take her to the king. They do rescue her, but on the way to the king the princess and the ogre fall in love. If I remember correctly, on the night before the ogre is to deliver the princess to the king he is having second thoughts, she overhears him talking to the donkey, but she hears wrong, assumes the worst, and so she decides she wants to marry the king, so to the king she goes. She and the Ogre have now parted ways and that is when this song is played, yet, the song is not merely a song about lost love, is it? There is so much more to it. It has many political overtones, which many children's animated movies do these days, and much cynicism about God and about those who have faith in God. Recently there was a priest who recorded the song. I think he may have sung it at a wedding or something, and it went viral, as they say.

I learned a few years ago, back when we watched cartoon movies with our grandchildren, that many of these movies had underlying political messages to them, even including messages aimed against Christians. I think "Happy Feet" was one of them. That movie was horrible! Even the Wizard of Oz supposedly has a political message to it. Anyway, so I got thinking about the plot and the characters in the movie. An ogre is a monster (beast). A donkey is a beast of burden. And, a dragon is a dragon (Satan?). So, we have beast #1, and beast #2 and a dragon (See Rev. 13). At the end of the movie, the ogre, the dragon and the donkey all go to rescue the princess from the king, the dragon eats the king and the princess then marries the ogre, but before that, she turns into a female ogre (beast). So, if I read the lyrics in light of this, then it makes sense that I am seeing Satan speaking, because this could be the beast speaking, yet it would be Satan at the same time. That is as far as I got with it.

Satan is on the rampage because his time is running out, and he is in hot pursuit of the saints of God to try to destroy them. So, that is why, all the more, we must live as children of light in this dark world of ours.
 
I agree, Sue. In listening to the many artists that have recorded this
song, I come away knowing there has to be a significantly deeper
meaning. I do remember when Shrek came out, my kids weren't interested
in watching it. Thank you for explaining the plot... I understand your
thoughts on relating the song at the point it appeared in the movie.
 
I agree, Sue. In listening to the many artists that have recorded this
song, I come away knowing there has to be a significantly deeper
meaning. I do remember when Shrek came out, my kids weren't interested
in watching it. Thank you for explaining the plot... I understand your
thoughts on relating the song at the point it appeared in the movie.
Lyndle, Thank you for sharing these thoughts. Although I may not fully understand the meaning of this song, which is ok, I got from it, in relation to where I was reading in scripture, what I believe God wanted me to get from it, for the message is the same, i.e. it is a message of a world lost in darkness and how we, who are in Christ, by faith, need to be the light to the world around us so that they can be saved, instead of us living just like the world and thus they will come away from their contacts with us wondering why they should believe in our God. Thank you so much for your participation in this topic. I appreciate your heart.
 
The song was written by a Jewish poet which originally contained some 80 verses eventually pared down to a few with a few variations. The song contains elements of Samson and Delilah, and David and Bathsheba. The author of the song practices Zen Buddhism.
See Shutter Bug again in this post you mention
I did research the song "Hallelujah," and knew the author was Canadian and that he had originally written some 80 verses. I didn't know he was Jewish or that he practiced Buddhism, but I did read that the song had some variations. The song, to me, was a picture of hypocrisy through the eyes of the poet. I saw it as a picture of the state of affairs in the US modernized Laodicean-like church. The poet was cynical about God, I believe, for he saw or he read about those who claimed to know God, or who knew God, and yet their actions did not match their talks (their hallelujahs).

The song, "Hallelujah," I believe, was written through the eyes of an unbeliever, but he was looking at God through his people, for they were his window into God. And, he didn't like what he saw. Although he did acknowledge that there were "holy hallelujahs," what he was mostly seeing were "broken and cold hallelujahs." He saw those who called themselves followers of God committing adultery, murder, fornication, and denying the God they claimed to worship. He saw governments who claimed allegiance to the one true God make war with others and shed innocent blood, and so he questioned the existence of God. He questioned how this could be love.

The passage of scripture was a challenge to those of us who claim to know God, or who do know God, that we should be imitators of God, and that we should walk in love. We should not even have a hint of these types of sins among us. And, we should look carefully how we walk, not as unwise, but as wise. The world is watching us. And, we are God's representatives. They will get their picture of God and of his people by watching us. This is not to say that we have to live in sinless perfection or that the world does not wrongly accuse us, at times. But, I do believe it was a wake up call - a reminder to us that we are to be light to the world, and that we should live as children of light in this dark world instead of living just like the world around us.
 
I think the world is full of happy songs, sad songs, disillusioned songs... I guess we can find whatever we want in them.
The truth is... people let you down. People even let Jesus down (one of his disciples denied him 3 times in one day).
But he doesn't let us down.
Christian should be full of light, full of love, and compassion. We should show this to the world. But when it comes down to it,
if we're looking for Jesus... we shouldn't be trying to find Him through someone else. We need to find Him.
There are so many people who say they know Him... yet by their deeds they deny Him.
Jesus doesn't deny himself, even when we deny Him.

On a side note, we should also be wary of preaching from song lyrics. Many songs (even songs on Christian radio stations) have very
little to do with scripture.
 
I think the world is full of happy songs, sad songs, disillusioned songs... I guess we can find whatever we want in them.
The truth is... people let you down. People even let Jesus down (one of his disciples denied him 3 times in one day).
But he doesn't let us down.
Christian should be full of light, full of love, and compassion. We should show this to the world. But when it comes down to it,
if we're looking for Jesus... we shouldn't be trying to find Him through someone else. We need to find Him.
There are so many people who say they know Him... yet by their deeds they deny Him.
Jesus doesn't deny himself, even when we deny Him.

On a side note, we should also be wary of preaching from song lyrics. Many songs (even songs on Christian radio stations) have very
little to do with scripture.
 
Your right sometimes a song is just a song. Sometimes we see way to much into things. I believe God made us to Love and Lift each other up. We are told even when someone is caught in transgression.
today so many seek to divide if we disagree we should talk and come to an agreement inTruth even if the truth is not what we want. Many today are like spoiled children we want and only what we want. We need to do the will of God even when we don't like it, it turns out to be the best for us.
Galatians 6.1
"Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted."
 
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