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Mathew 7:1-5

Buddy2

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1) Judge not, that you not be judged.
2) For with what judgement you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
3) And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
4) Or how can you say to your brother `Let me remove the speck from your eye' and look a plank is in your own eye?
5) Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Sounds simple eh?!
Then why do we do it?
Everything from truly the smallest concern to the biggest.

Remember... none of us has the right to judge another for anything. I am no better than whomever I judge.

And if we find ourselves being judged, try with sincere kindness to ask God to forgive them. That's what Jesus would/did do.

Through this post, I actually just discovered an empathy within me, an understanding of the "judger's" mindset and truly feel sorry
for all the times that I've judged and also, to my surprize, for those who have/are judging me!

Because if we judge then we don't have love in our hearts, no matter what we say.
 
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Hi Buddy2,

Very well put but one wonders what the actual definition of judging is. Is it prejudice, a personal judgement about that person? What about situations where you have to judge is it ok then to see if you trust the person, like if you are choosing a baby sitter or in a court situation. Does it mean that judging is condemming the person? Is judging being overly critical or just seeing peoples faults or thinking that you are better than them? I feel that defining it accurately can help me to avoid doing it? I try not to think I am better than anyone or be critical but honestly it is very difficult. I can think of things people have done and still do even in my own family that I have difficulty coming to terms with, however, I still love them and would come to their rescue if they needed me. Does judging include a self determined punishment for that person eg like not speaking to them etc....

As you can see I am a little confused about this one!:confused:

God Bless

:love: Eve
 
KRISIS -- HEAVEN OR HELL
There is a kind of judging that we are not called to do. The Greek word is krisis.
For not even the father judges anyone, but He has given all judgement [krisis] to the Son (John 5:22).
The ultimate determination of heaven and hell belongs to the Lord alone. We never krisis. We are forbidden to krisis.

KRITES -- THE JUDGE OF ALL
But you have come… to the general assembly and church of the first born who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge [ krites ] of all, and to the spirits of righteous men made perfect (Hebrews 12:23).
God is the judge of all. Yes, there are people who are called to judge, but God is the ultimate Judge of us all.

HUPO-KRITES -- PHARISEES
If we are going to stand up and confront other people in the church about something being wrong, we had better make sure we are not guilty of the same thing, because that is another kind of judging we are forbidden to do.
Here the prefix hupo is added to krites, giving us the English word "hypocrites."
This is what Jesus meant when he said, Do not judge lest you be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.
And why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," and behold, the log is in your own eye?
You hypocrite [hupokrites], first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye (Matthew 7:1-5).
We do not krites and we especially do not hupo-krites.

KRITIKOS -- TO DISCERN
For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge [kritikos] the thoughts and intentions of the heart (Hebrews 4:12).
Cells called erythrocytes are stored in the red marrow of big bones, like the femur and the tibia. On the outside there is the bone and on the inside there is the marrow. But in between there is an area where, even with a microscope, it is very difficult to tell where the bone ends and where the marrow begins.
The Bible says that the relationship between soul and spirit is like that. Take prophecy: Was that from someone's imagination, or was it God's Spirit speaking through their spirit? It is very difficult to tell the difference.
Man is a three-dimensional being. You can separate a body from a soul; but you cannot easily tell where the soul ends and the spirit begins.
When people say, "The Lord showed me this" and "God told me that," it is difficult to know if it is someone's imagination or God's Spirit speaking to their spirit. The mind is a good servant, but a dangerous master. Many people are caught up with things not overtly demonic, but they are prophesying from the futility of their own mind.
We are called to kritikos -- to discern between the soulish and the spiritual. The Word of God enables us to separate the bone from the marrow, the spiritual from the purely soulish.

Judge not? What does the Bible say?
1. We never judge from our opinions.
2. We are commanded to anakrino -- we always seek to discern: "Is this of God, or is it of the flesh, or of the devil?"
3. We are commanded to diakrino -- to render a decision as to whether something is morally right or wrong.
4. We do not krisis -- the Lord alone decides who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.
5. We are sometimes appointed to krites -- but we are to remember that the Lord is the Judge of all, and we are to judge righteously.
6. We never, ever, hupo-krites -- before we take a speck out of our brother's eye, we make sure we do not have the same speck in our own eye.
7. We always kritikos -- we draw on the Word of God to discern between the things of the soul and the things of the spirit.
 
oooh I really like this thread. Great info dunkedinfire. I love all the Greek words.

yes I practice anakrino so very important. With our thoughts, ideas, ..We can easily be deceived if we do not do this. And the others also, very important..... hmmmm... I need to be very careful of watching out for the log in my eye, I have done hupo-krites, we probably all have. Its so easy to say 'why does Joe Bloggs do blah blah blah, and why doesn't he just do ABC instead.' And then we're not doing it ourselves, And of course we really don't see all what is going on in other peoples lives behind closed doors, and what is in their hearts and minds. They may be having difficulties we are not aware of, so offering our help may be needed instead of our judgement.

:shade: Calluna
 
'Dunkedinfire

An excellent article on the subject dear brother. Thankyou for posting it and teaching us the scriptures.

In His Love
 
We are called to kritikos -- to discern between the soulish and the spiritual. The Word of God enables us to separate the bone from the marrow, the spiritual from the purely soulish.

Judge not? What does the Bible say?
1. We never judge from our opinions.
2. We are commanded to anakrino -- we always seek to discern: "Is this of God, or is it of the flesh, or of the devil?"
3. We are commanded to diakrino -- to render a decision as to whether something is morally right or wrong.
4. We do not krisis -- the Lord alone decides who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.
5. We are sometimes appointed to krites -- but we are to remember that the Lord is the Judge of all, and we are to judge righteously.
6. We never, ever, hupo-krites -- before we take a speck out of our brother's eye, we make sure we do not have the same speck in our own eye.
7. We always kritikos -- we draw on the Word of God to discern between the things of the soul and the things of the spirit.

Thanks for clearly defining the differences between judging and discerning.
For discern we must. While judging is dangerous because we must be guilt free before tossing that first stone.
 
This is one of those threads that I will print and tape to my wall its so true and how beautifully put. I ask allso for forgivness to any I have judged and God forgive those that have judged me Amen
 
More stuff on "Do not Judge"

DO NOT SPEAK AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, brethren. He who speaks against a brother, or judges his brother, speaks against the law, and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge of it (James 4:11).

Do not speak against one another. Do not speak against your brethren. Do not judge your brother. Is that what it says? Look at verse 4 of the same chapter….

You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility to-ward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God (James 4:4).

You adulteresses!
Do not judge your brother!

From the pen of the same apostle, in the distance of a few paragraphs, in almost the same breath that he is saying "do not judge," James calls worldly churches "adulteresses."

SPIRITUAL ADULTERY
James is probably the oldest book of the New Testament. We know from its Hebraic background, from the way it draws on synagogue leadership structure and the Scriptures, that it was obviously written to Jewish Christians.

James is using the Hebrew concept of whoredom or harlotry. Whenever Israel went into idolatry, God calls it "adultery." Idolatry equals spiritual adultery.
Israel was to be God's woman, in much the same way as the church is the bride of Christ. The church being unfaithful is like Israel being unfaithful. That idolatry is called "adultery." It is a very strong term in Hebrew, a very strong concept in the Jewish mind.

BY THEIR FRUIT…

Every good tree bears good fruit; but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits (Matthew 7:17-20).
Jesus said that you can judge someone by their fruit. In the same chapter, He says, Do not judge lest you be judged (Matthew 7:1).

First it is, "Judge not lest you be judged," yet He goes on to say, "You will know them by their fruits." People involved with Toronto and Pensacola say, "You know Toronto/ Pensacola by its fruit and there is good fruit from it."

Jesus never said that you would know a phenomena by its fruit. He said that you would know a person by their fruit.

More than that, even judging a phenomenon by its fruit, you can see that it is not the fruit of the Spirit. The fruit of the Spirit is self-control, not drunkenness and lunacy.

CONTRADICTIONS?

Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgement (John 7:24).
First Jesus says, "Judge not lest you be judged," but then He says, "Judge with right judgement."
James appeared to contradict himself. Now Jesus seems to contradict himself. Jesus said, "Don't do it," then He tells you how to do it. James said, "Don't do it," straight after he did it.

Therefore you are without excuse, every one of you who passes judgement, for in that you would judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things (Romans 2:1).
Therefore do not go on passing judgement before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things that are hidden in darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts; and then each man's praise will come to him from God (1 Corinthians 4:5).
But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of God (Ro-mans 14:10).
For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this [the guy in question here was involved in an incestuous relationship with his father's wife ], as though I were present (1 Corinthians 5:3).

Over and over, Paul says, "Don't judge." But then he passes judgment.
Jesus says, "Don't judge," but then he says to do it and shows you how.
James says, "Don't judge," but then he does it.

Why the contradictions?

GOD IS THE JUDGE

If God says in the Bible that something is wrong, and we see someone or some church do that thing, we are not judging them, it is the Word of God that judges.

The Hebrew name, "Jehoshaphat" means Jehovah has judged. That is not me or you judging. We are simply acknowledging, "This is what God says."
James was not calling worldly churches "adulteresses." The Word of God says that, if we are attached to this world, we are an adulteress church.

Paul was not saying that the man involved with his step-mother was immoral. Paul was saying that the Word of God says that person was immoral.

If God says that something is plainly wrong, that is not you or me judging, that is God judging.

That is what it means when it says, "Judge with right judgement." Judging with right judgement means judging with God's judgement, not with our own.
There is a big problem here -- there are things that I would not do, but which are not necessarily wrong for someone else.

PEOPLE'S OPINIONS

There is the case where some believers, after their wedding, went to a discotheque. (I would not go to a discotheque unless I was certain God had a mission for me) I would not feel a peace about going, but I am not going to make a big deal out of it, no matter what my own misgivings or feelings.

Another case in Ireland where, at a Christian wedding, people danced. Other Christian people became indignant and began yelling, "You're backsliders," and stormed out of the wedding, creating a big scene. It split a church. That is people judging.

The word "Laodicea" has to do in the Greek with "people's opinions, people's judgements." We have no right to make a judgement of another person, but once God says something is right or wrong, that is not us judging.

ANAKRINO -- TO DISCERN

The Greek word for "judge" is krino.
If you put the prefix "ana" in front of the word "krino," you get a variation on the idea of judging, which is "to discern."

But he who is spiritual judges [anakrino] all things, yet he himself is judged [anakrino] by no man (1 Corinthians 2:15).

God, in His Word, commands us to anakrino. It is not a right; it is not a privilege; it is not something that is advisable. We are commanded to do it. And if you do not discern, you lack wisdom.

DIAKRINO -- TO DECIDE

I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide [diakrino] between his brethren? (1 Corinthians 6:5).

Another prefix which changes the meaning of krino is "dia." Diakrino means to "render a decision." Is something right or wrong? Is someone's behaviour right or wrong morally? Is it Scriptural or unscriptural? Is it of God, or is it of the flesh, or of the devil?

The Holy Spirit speaking through Paul commands that we are to diakrino.
We are not permitted to diakrino. We are not advised to diakrino. We are not privileged to diakrino. We are commanded to diakrino. It is not that judging is acceptable. Rather, to fail to judge is unacceptable.
 
Dunkedinfire,

Thanks for elaborating so eloquently.

Your comments and quotes have been extremely enlightening and discerning! Superb response - five gold stars for excellent clarification.:star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

God Bless

:love: Eve
 
What a wonderful piece of writing.Of course being human we will falter from time to time but God appreciates our efforts to follow the wisdom so eloquently stated in your post.Its a lifetime of struggle as we avoid being unfaithful to the word of God but all too frequently I see members of my Church praying fervently and then literally ignoring their neighbour when the leave the church building. I truly wish others will come to embrace the principles you expressed so clearly. Well done.

Nicholas.
 
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