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mayan calender and 2012

brodav9

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The recent info. I have received shows that there is a change in the planets taking place that is why we are having arth disasters.

It is showing that our galaxy is descending through it's disk and as we draw closer to th disk tsunamies, earthquakes, tornados etc are occuring.

it appears that this would fulfill Matt. 24 prophesies of Jesus. Also there is chance we will hear other theories so as to keep people from knowing they should turn to Jesus to be saved from the great tribulation which will also be a part of this when the arth should be going through the disk. I am a watcher more than a knower.

It all makes sence but we know that things ar getting closer than ever before. We have the hopes of a 1,000 years with Jesus so we know God is shaking earth not destroying it.
 
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it says in news that earth is experiencing just as same amount of earth quakes as it always has.

also if you read about nasa site about this they say the same that there isnt anything special about year 2012

so i don't see how the things today could signify end in anyway...

could be the beginning of birth pains from mat 24 but then again earthquakes havent increased at all but its same as 2000 years ago if i have understood correctly.
 
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not in the news

The Mayan news is not in the news on TV or NASA . If you look at the stelarium you will se black patches where things are being hidden from us. one week ago from today there were 75 tornados in one day in Oklahoma.
There were two days last week together each was a earthquake. One was in Thailand. I have seen websites with lists (christian sites) showing how many earth quakes per year for many years, it always shows a increase.
To know the earth will be destroyed was not in the Mayan calender---only that they didn't know what was coming after 2012.
People made up the destroy part in a panic.
As said in the post there will be a 1,000 year millenium on earth, after a 7 year tribulation. Hope this was helpful to you. God bless.
 
type this in google and you'll find what nasa has to say about all this:

The Great 2012 Doomsday Scare
 
There were two days last week together each was a earthquake. One was in Thailand. I have seen websites with lists (christian sites) showing how many earth quakes per year for many years, it always shows a increase.

the thing with the earthquakes is that there is average of 20,000 earthquakes in a year.

and its impossible to say how many there was 2000 or 1000 years ago because they werent tracked back then, with technology and by people.

so what do you make of that? has the amount really increased? how can that be known for certain?

even there would be more big earthquakes in past 10 years we dont know how normal that is for our planet...
so i think thats the problem for shoving true and significant increase. Only time will tell if there will truly be more earthquakes.
 
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There is something that has fundamentally changed in the last 20 years.
The placebo effect has increased by 100%.
This has made it more difficult for big pharma to get new drugs approved in the US.

This is from a news story in 2009:
Behind the scenes, however, MK-869 was starting to unravel. True, many test subjects treated with the medication felt their hopelessness and anxiety lift. But so did nearly the same number who took a placebo, a look-alike pill made of milk sugar or another inert substance given to groups of volunteers in clinical trials to gauge how much more effective the real drug is by comparison. The fact that taking a faux drug can powerfully improve some people's health—the so-called placebo effect—has long been considered an embarrassment to the serious practice of pharmacology.

It started increasing in the early 90's.
The implications are that it is increasing exponentially.
Studies show that it comes down to "a reasonable expectation".

So be on your guard and expect good things,not destruction.
There is a opposite negative nocebo which can actually cause sickness.And that is simply a reasonable expectation of sickness.
Praise God at all times and the effect will be joy,love and a reasonable expectation of power to set captives free.

 
As said in the post there will be a 1,000 year millenium on earth, after a 7 year tribulation.
If you study the Bible carefully, you will find that there is no suggestion that the millennium is on the earth, nor is there any evidence of a seven year tribulation.
Manyu scholars believe, and I agree with them, that Christians live through the plagues which are of an unknown duration, are then taken to heaven along with the resurrected dead, and spend the 1000 years in heaven under Jesus kingship. It is at the end of the 1000 years that we, living in the 'New Jerusalem' and safely inside it as it descends, are returned to this planet which is made new.
 
Isa. 11: animals on earth are at peace.

Though the word millenium is used in another way, it is called a 1,000 years. I write that because there are many terms in the bible which are not given the words we use. Bible isn't in the bible.

This leaves us with more difficult understanding. In Isa. 11: we see that when the 1,000 years on earth is here there will be changes in th animal kingdom. We have more evidence with terms ,or details such as a lion not eating meat but straw. Isa. 11:9 shows us that this will be on the earth.

it has not happened yet. But it will be when Jesus reigns on the earth on David's throne Zech. 14:9

Just 2 days ago the people in upper America had 1 die and a 100 people injured by baseball size hail. Never heard of that before in recent years.

Was out trying to learn more of the hidden secret of the Mayan calender because of the contradictions of theories saying it is atributed to alien attacks. it is impossibl for earth to be destroyed till God is through with his eternal plan which includes taking earth back as his possession to rule over it. Being he made it out his power and glory, he owns it. He made it in one day and could actually destroy it in one day and replace it with the new heavens and new earth and new Jerusalem.

After the tribulation which is talked about in Daniel 9: Dans. 70 weeks, the earth will be so damaged it won't be much to be proud about. stars will fall, and planets, and it will be damaged. esp. wormwood and comets. Jesus will cause the mount of Jerusalem to rise above the other (7) mountains
 
Awakening234 you seem to support left behind etc doctrines. do you have scripture to back this up what your advising about?
 
in all honesty

I started this post , as a hopeful reason to learn more about this Mayan thing. There is no real desire to learn about the Mayan calender, but to learn about the thing the Mayan's caused us to find.

There is a covered issue here that keeps us from knowing the truth. Perhaps to save from panic. It is also unbelievable that the increased
catastrophes are from alien attacks. I still hold that Matt. 24: Jesus prophesies of the things happening on the increase, are happening now, am hopeful that all God's people are getting their hearts right with God to be ready when he appears like a thief in the night. 2Tim. 1:7 says we have not been given a spirit of fear but power love and a sound mind.

all things work together for good apply here. God will protect and wake up those who are spiritually asleep. I speak this in love. We really do need prophets in this day and time.
 
(Mat 24:4) And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

(Mat 24:5) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

(Mat 24:6) And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

(Mat 24:7) For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

(Mat 24:8) All these are the beginning of sorrows.

(Mat 24:9) Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

(Mat 24:10) And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

(Mat 24:11) And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

(Mat 24:12) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

(Mat 24:13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
 
in all honesty.. seems like false prophecy to me

Amen x 10. Those poor lost souls had to stop chipping on that calender somewhere. I have been reading about this meaning the world would end since the 1970's but in reality it is going no where until the Father gives the Word.
 
If you study the Bible carefully, you will find that there is no suggestion that the millennium is on the earth, nor is there any evidence of a seven year tribulation.
Manyu scholars believe, and I agree with them, that Christians live through the plagues which are of an unknown duration, are then taken to heaven along with the resurrected dead, and spend the 1000 years in heaven under Jesus kingship. It is at the end of the 1000 years that we, living in the 'New Jerusalem' and safely inside it as it descends, are returned to this planet which is made new.

This is partially correct.

Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

This won't be in the Jerusalem, because it hasn't come down from Heaven yet. That happens in the next chapter.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Also we might be able to leave the gates of the city, but the inhabitants of the earth won't be able to enter in. There will still be sin even after all of these events.
<DIR>Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.
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Rev 22:2 in the middle of its street. On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

If there is no sickess or disease in Heaven, who would need healing? Also who are we reigning over with Christ? Other Christians? Or the inhabitants of the earth?

Why do we say the tribulation will last 7 years? (Actually the tribulation is 3 1/2 years and the great tribulation is 3 1/2 years.

Rev 11:3 "And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."

(The first 3 1/2 years)

Rev 12:6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she *had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

(The second 3 1/2 years)

Daniel 12 talk a lot about the end times and the beast

Dan 12:7 I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, as he raised his right hand and his left toward heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time; and as soon as they finish shattering the power of the holy people, all these events will be completed.

Again we see 3 1/2 years.

Rev 12:14 But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the wilderness to her place, where she *was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.

Finally the last 3 1/2 years (which was earlier described as 1260 days)
 
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anytime the calander is brought up i like to ask this simple question:

if the myans was so smart and they knew so much about whats to come, where is their socioty on earth now?

no man knows the hour, and anyone telling you they do is misleading you, wether they know it or not.
 
All this 2012 end time prophecy and mayan calander is all devilish FEAR and a snare to get people's focus off of The Lord Jesus Christ and unto circumstances and FEAR.

Do not believe all the lies and be ye soberminded!
 
Tribulation

B-A-C thanks for your post. Interesting reading of a topic which has always confused me, chronology-wise. I understand it better now - thank you.
 
good point

you don't know how good it sounds to me hearing someone say they recognize false prophesy. Benny Hinn says false prophesy is okay as long as your trying to learn how to prophesy. Of coarse he stands in grave yards next to bodies of dead saints and says he receives their anointings. Saul stood in front of a witch and had Samuel brought forth. He died the next day.

His saying that Jesus would appear personally on the stage in one of his meetings, reminds me of how the false prophet will say the false messiah,
who is anti-christ, will appear before the people on the stage.
 
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