Dear Brother,
Isn't it better to say "many" instead of "most" and to "I know Christians", is also inclusive to them all, but truly doesn't speak to the fact that we are all sinners, but for the Grace of God also includes those calling themselves Children of God.
It bothers me truly this...the only way I can say it "Christian Bashing". There is no differentiating with you, and the World in attacking "Christians"! Sad commentary isn't it! Maybe, not all the time, but "most" of the time, won't you say?
Yes, it does bother me. You identify as a Child of God correct? I'm sure there are those who likewise identify, but are not, and who can be worse than those you have identified as "most" Christians and have more in common with the World then with you my brother as a Child of God! So, whenever you use Christian in a negative fashion, replace it with Child of God. For are not some of the very ones calling themselves Christians also Children of God? Doesn't sound the same does it??? Yet, no less true!
Again, you say "most" and "I know Christians". So, how many do you know? 5%, 20%, 50% and if you know Christians then it must be 100%!
If you must bash Christians, then identify them as those who are deceivers, and stop lumping many of your Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus who are also Children of God with those others! Because that is what you are doing, and that is not right or befitting a man of God or for that matter a Child of God!
Now to be specific on the "Who" in your title it is a ministry tied to the Presbyterian Church (USA). Notice it is the USA Presbyterian Church, because a few years ago they had a schism over this very same subject (see link below). Look to the numbers and you will see it was not most!
SACRAMENTO — More than 200 Presbyterian congregations nationwide have been torn asunder over the Presbyterian Church USA’s new rules and the ordination of its first gay minister. The rift has
www.dailyrepublic.com
This twice in one day that someone has looked at being a Christian in a negative way! As I've said, it's bad enough the World makes no differentiation between us, but to have Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus doing it, because they have issue with the Word, and should know better is probably even more troubling than what this church is doing with this periodical because that is to be expected in these days, and we know that it's going to get much worse.
I need to remember what Peter said "Yet if [anyone suffers] as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter."
"Oh, give thanks to the LORD, for [He is] good! For His mercy [endures] forever."
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Dear Brother,
Isn't it better to say "many" instead of "most" and to "I know Christians", is also inclusive to them all, but truly doesn't speak to the fact that we are all sinners, but for the Grace of God also includes those calling themselves Children of God.
You are right< my bad: I was mis firing.
Because all my life even in the Church "gay" people have supported me in My Ministry from day one, and My Children had friends that were Gay, I Have hug and kiss many "trans" women and men on the cheek., and held their hands and cried with them, I know That GOD love them too! And I would not tolerate any person in the church and in the streets that came against any "LGBTQ" person when I was young and and strong. And I would fight hand and fist even after I got saved in 1977, to protect them. I have song, in The church Choir Side by side with Them in the Male choir too. Hand and in hand. They been in my house eating at my table, Going in my "refrigerator' as they please, going to church with my wife and kids I have babysit them as kids. I have visit Drug dealers homo sexuasl, and we have laugh and Talk Jesus, I got history and Jesus nows the Fruit I bear. and The love I have shared. And have watch "Hypocrites" look upon some, And I have stared the "hypocrites" down, and walk over and hug the "LBGTQ" christians, and smile at them and sit down with the people of That SAME SEX attractions, and laugh with them and cried, even explain their convictions and sins. I understood and I know why they where how they were. because of my views and "calvinistic' ways that are "biblical" and sound. I give them understanding Because I understand "The BOOK" and many christians hate me because I Speak "TRUTH" Iand they have made it know they hate me! Saying it with there own mouths and to my face in Public many times and i took it! while other christians have just stood there and laugh and I kept it moving even tears running down my face. they have cursed me out! I rather sit down at table with a"BUM" than the president of "The United States" and it is Know FACT to those who have known me, throughout these United States. And the people have praise people who have curse me out, even for prayer for the sick strangers.
And today I am glad and I rejoice about those religious people who laugh at me and have said all matter of evil about me and these people where not pagan or Atheist or Muslims or of another kind of any Religions. they where not pagans. Have People have every spit in your face for just witnessing, and they were not pagans. and you wipe it off with your hands and just cried?. Have you even song a religious song in public place and a non pagan person has chewed you out, have ever been defended by a pagan person who defended your stance in your belief in "Jesus Christ" a pagan comes to your rescue and curse somebody out because of your believe in JESUS/
Many times many times pagans have come to my rescue and they didn't believe in Jesus Christ. even 'ATHEIST"
{and this practice is Biblical a known fact and Theological sound] and I give God the Praise for letting such things to happen to me]
While it happen I did not understand but as the years past, Then God took me to another place and how glad I am that many spitted on me and laugh in my face} The more Pain the more I learn to Praise !! The More I am mis understood the more I love Jesus that much More/
"He came to his own and his own received Him not" They Hated him without a cause" but many do not believe that, they think the people love him and obeyed him.
Lord help me, to believe. "The TRUTH" even if you have to beat me scar me, and tear me apart with wild horses or saw me into, even If you have to Slander my name, break me LORD and mold me and Place me into The Fire and Burn it all off, Wound me Lord Crush me And Shape me and please Lord put My tears in your Bottle and keep them there, yes they tried to Lock me up For Praying for calling on the LORD to make me into The creature that what you want me to be and not what man wants me to be, To be successful and A professor of Institutions, even A corp leader.
they wanted me to die , except bribes and I would not , I don't want your religious money! The told tried to Starved me and took even food from me and claim that I would n't eat, but The people believe their lies they told on me! and These people were not pagans or Jews, or Muslims or AThesis, They help me and said That God sent them to me and they will help me! I thought I was going to die! But GOD! have The Philistines and The Persians come and help me! as they helped "King DAVID" and God Had The King of Persia aid in rebuilding "The Temple" and provide protection.
Than God Has Given us A Bible in Our Own Language and He HAs become Our FATHER and more than a "GOD".
There I go again, I was weak then I became strong in Proclaiming what God has done to me. How does he do that. I am a weak and old man, and many days I wonder I cannot even walk around the Corner, and i used to run many miles and ride my bike three miles a day and Lift weights in The basement. But not now, I have no strength but when I Talk about GOD I Become strong. and I do not get sick when I read and write about GOD, but when I stop, all my wounds and battle scars get the best of me. I eat very little but it does not bother me, I used to take about 14 pills a day. and had a REACTION, so i stop taking all pills over 4 years ago. Blood pressure, cholesterol, Vitamins, Allergy, etc,, They said I had take pills for the rest of my life, for twenty years I took them, Then In The beginning of 2018 I stop taking all pills, My daddy did not take pills all his life even when he got Cancer. I found all of his pain medication hidden in the basement after he died. so I have been disable since about 1981 by the court systems and can take high pain level medications any time I want throughout this whole country, But I Will not be "Addicted" to only two things "Reading my Bible and Jesus" I will not be even addicted to sex. My wife told me one time you don't need anybody. I'm not going to be addicted to anything. When He set me Free, I was free indeed" and refuse to be Bound to Any creature, thing or institution. But A "Bound servant of Jesus Christ"
So yes, I did mis-Fire.
I have been tired in the Flesh and In the SPIRIT and Tired and EXHAUSTED, In The JOY of The LORD, the Human Body cannot take it. I did erase a lot in the last few days and did not print it after Realizing I was Get very "Spiritual Exhausted"
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So any where, I have not Please The LORD, I am so sorry, but let this be known, I seek to please "no man or women" so men and women no not thing I am trying to please any or convert any. So if I please, any man or woman in my words That is not my attentions if I please you.
In which I am always in error for this I know, Because The WORD has Told me so.. and I believe it. "For there is NONE RIGHTEOUS no not one"
For Jesus righteous is always right. he is our righteousness but we are never right.
5But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man) 6God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world? 7For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? 8And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
(Psalm 14:1-7)
"There is No One Righteous"
9What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
I Know I am different. and I do believe, to me: "When the plain sense of "Holy Scripture" makes common sense seek no other sense"
Thanks my brother for bringing this to my attention.
It makes me feel that I have TO defend the "LGBTQ" even more. My oldest daughter in Michigan have friends I see often coming here, male and female, who have same sex attractions. I do not show any kind of "Animosity" towards them, and they always see me studying the Book. and My youngest daughter in "Atlanta" has friends in the work place who are "gay" I will do more to make them feel more welcome and support them in "the SPIRIT of Love. more than I have ever had. They are christians. They say it and I believe it that they are.
PloughBoy, I am sorry, just getting tried, I have been in the fight for many years many years. I am tired.
"where sin abounds grace abounds that much more" going to find me A book, that has nothing to do with none of this Stuff! or I might just start to write another book. Publishers are ringing my Phone off, throughout these USA, even some boards what to maybe think about getting permission to look into a film deal.
and that I am not interested in. Maybe I will just write another book, for those who already know me. I got a thought. a "unction" will wait to be sure.
Some new songs I want to learn how to sing anyhow.
and I like Singing to "The Heavenly Host" I get a kick out of that. And sometimes sings to my grand children friends, that leaves a song in their hearts I have notice. they come in the house and start humming my songs, they have my tune
I have reason, it might be fwhat they might need when I go away.
Something like: "Tolle Lega Tolle Lege"
who knows. "Granddaddie wrote this" "Granddaddies song this Song"
going to have a "Signature Song" about Jesus and what he has done for me.
I am reminded lately about the men I used to sing with and how we each just step n and created verses on the fly as we song, songs and I can see "right now A few of The "Same sex" attraction men smiling as we Song about JESUS, and The ANOINTING of GOD was on All of us, the only=person was mad was Our Pastor, reason, I believe he was "JEALOUS" many of People got Saved and got filled with the "Holy Ghost" under "our Ministry the men" in that Church eventually we all left, one by one, two by two , we left, And that Church crumbed and failed after many Years of service. But it cause us to go on unto :maturity.
PloughBoy, reading the mail.
, thank you my Brother.
For many years I had no "laymen" christians friends or Acquaintances, all were Minsters and Pastors, university Professors and Doctors and lawyers they where my only real contacts in this world outside my mother and father, It just was that way.
Since I been on "TalkJesus" is the only real contact with the common christian woman or man, outside those within the Audience of the gathering of people.
I have forgot many things across the broad, old age. And I am ready whenever he gets ready, my learning is dwindling in this old age, the Brain is the flesh is decaying away every moment and my steps are too, and I am tired, and wondering why and that is why I watch the Sky.
Thanks I will slowly get out of the way. I move slowly to aside, patient with me I know my time is near.
I willow the other way.
PloughBoy now I am reading the mail
PS. Have always mention one the Greatest Quote of "MATRIN LUTHER" The Reformer that cannot be quoted here on "TalkJESUS" but always use a portion of it. That marks why many have their here even in These "USA" to even have bible in their own language.
Luthers partial Quote:
"The Church is a Great________ and she is My Mother and Love her, because if it was not for her "I would never Had Known JESUS"
And I do forget that they taught us that the "Layman" have no idea of the things we address because they have not the in-depth studying of things that Is normal for us is not normal for them. and we had to be very careful when engaging with them. we will do great harm than Good. for we Mighty Choke the person instead of feeding them.
Known Theological fact when once "Theology was Theology".
Thanks again, I will stay in my lane. PloughBoy, Nothing but a "outcast" and I do hope you know what that means Theological and not a Dictionary meaning. many definitions. but context context. Many Applications, but only One meaning.
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PloughBoy, tired and no editor, so please excuse the mistakes. Grammar. and Punctuations
I Am Going To Make Me Some "CINNAMON ROLLS"
