Picking apart the Bible

[dannibear]

I didnt know where else to put this, but I felt this was a moral issue...
My sister and I came home from church this morning, and as I walked
by my grandfather and my sister talking, he asked her, 'what did you learn
today at church?' and I was shocked by her response.
"We learned about homosexuality, and how it's wrong, but I dont think
so, I think gay people will go to Heaven."

I have always taught her things from the Bible when we were smaller,
since my mother and her boyfriend never really took responsibility
of us. I was like the mother figure in her life. And to hear this from her,
after everything I taught her, it upsets me. What she is doing is picking
apart the Bible, believing some parts and not accepting others
to fit her lifestyle. I dont know what has gotten into her, but I have
seen her morals decline, and her faith dwindling the past few years.
I told her that its wrong to do this, but she wont hear it.

Does anyone have any way on how best to handle this situation?
I dont shove things down people's throats, but I cant just ignore this
situation. And as much as I dont want to say it...I dont think she will
really go to Heaven either, if she continues to lead people in the
wrong direction, and deceive others into thinking that being a gay christian is ok. Her excuse for this is the classic, "You cant tell people
who they can or cannot love." Oh brother. Please pray for her, that
she come to know what she is doing wrong, and for me to know
what to do about this....

 

[dannibear]

Hm...well...apparently she is now wearing pagan symbols.
anyone know how I best fix this situation?

 

[jiggyfly]

Love her in the morning, love her at noon time and love her when the sun goes down.

Love evicts fear and it also covers sin.

 

[Logos57]

Love her in the morning, love her at noon time and love her when the sun goes down.

Love evicts fear and it also covers sin.

Amen, Jiggyfly. Dannibear, I believe anything you say to your sister she will be able to find fault with. But there is no argueing with love.
Will be praying for your sister that she will understand how much God loves her.

 

[dannibear]

I understand, to love her...
I am just crying with concern because I dont want her
eternity to be spent in hell....

 

[Veracity]

The bible says to raise a child up in the way he should go...

Once a child gets to a certain age, the rest is up to them.
Pray, pray, and pray.

 

[jiggyfly]

I understand, to love her...
I am just crying with concern because I dont want her
eternity to be spent in hell....

Your worry and concern is misplaced Dannibear, don't trust yourself or your sister with her destiny trust Father. He is drawing her to His Son.


1John 4:18 Such love has no fear because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of judgment, and this shows that his love has not been perfected in us.

 

[savedbygrace08]

Hello dannibear. I'm new here so I hope you don't mind me posting. I just wanted to post my understanding of what the Bible says about homosexuality.

1 Cor. 6:9,10 lists sins that, if indulged in continuously, identify a person as not being redeemed—not being a Christian. Often, homosexuality is singled out from this list.

If a person struggles with temptations, that person is presumed to be unsaved. If a person actually engages in acts, that person is definitely thought to be unsaved.

However, the same assumptions are not made, at least not with the same emphasis, regarding other sins in the list: fornication (pre-marital sex), idolatry, adultery, thievery, covetousness, alcoholism, slander, and deceit. It is inconsistent, for example, to declare those guilty of pre-marital sex as “disobedient Christians,” while declaring homosexuals definitively non-Christians.

Is it possible to be a gay Christian? If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who struggles against desires and temptations – yes, a “gay Christian” is possible.

However, the description “gay Christian” is not accurate for such a person, since he/she does not desire to be gay, and is struggling against the temptations. Such a person is not a “gay Christian,” but rather is simply a struggling Christian, just as there are Christians who struggle with fornication, lying, and stealing.

If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who actively, perpetually, and unrepentantly lives that lifestyle – no, it is not possible for such a person to truly be a Christian.

 

[dannibear]

You worry and concern is misplaced Dannibear, don't trust yourself or your sister with her destiny trust Father. He is drawing her to His Son.


1John 4:18 Such love has no fear because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of judgment, and this shows that his love has not been perfected in us.

To tell the truth I just feel...disappointed. My mother and her boyfriend
were hardly around, so I taught her from the Bible when we
were still younger. And now these past couple years, I have seen her
decline in her interest, and I wish I knew why. She doesnt tell me anything
anymore like she used to, and she has become a follower and not a leader,
changing herself to be like her new best friends. And her new best friend happens to be a pagan. I wish I knew where the happy child in her went.
Now she goes around saying how much she hates people, and her life,
and how life is so depressing to her. I have prayed for the answer to why
she is being this way, but you make a good point. Maybe I need to change
my prayer. I probably need to pray that she turns back to Jesus...besides, even if I had the answer, only Jesus would know best how to use it.

 

[dannibear]

Hello dannibear. I'm new here so I hope you don't mind me posting. I just wanted to post my understanding of what the Bible says about homosexuality.

1 Cor. 6:9,10 lists sins that, if indulged in continuously, identify a person as not being redeemed—not being a Christian. Often, homosexuality is singled out from this list.

If a person struggles with temptations, that person is presumed to be unsaved. If a person actually engages in acts, that person is definitely thought to be unsaved.

However, the same assumptions are not made, at least not with the same emphasis, regarding other sins in the list: fornication (pre-marital sex), idolatry, adultery, thievery, covetousness, alcoholism, slander, and deceit. It is inconsistent, for example, to declare those guilty of pre-marital sex as “disobedient Christians,” while declaring homosexuals definitively non-Christians.

Is it possible to be a gay Christian? If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who struggles against desires and temptations – yes, a “gay Christian” is possible.

However, the description “gay Christian” is not accurate for such a person, since he/she does not desire to be gay, and is struggling against the temptations. Such a person is not a “gay Christian,” but rather is simply a struggling Christian, just as there are Christians who struggle with fornication, lying, and stealing.

If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who actively, perpetually, and unrepentantly lives that lifestyle – no, it is not possible for such a person to truly be a Christian.

Oh, I dont mind, please share anything you need to
The people on this site are like family to me, and I would
love you to have that feeling too ^_^ add me as a friend if you wish.
Thank you for that knowledge on the scripture, you make a good
point. My sister is referring to the people who are homosexuals,
and enjoy being one. I tell her verses such as these, and I say
why are you contradicting what you believe? She never told me she
was pagan, I found out from her boyfriend...which upset me even more.
I guess it all makes sense why she would say something like that, since
she isnt...christian anymore. I shall keep this info in mind ^_^

 

[spirit1st]

NO ones going to heaven [NEW JERUSALEM] Unless they been Born -Again!
Not one evil thing will be in our city !

 

[savedbygrace08]

dannibear,

Thank you for welcoming me like family. That's very kind of you. =] I wanted to share something with you...I know what you're going through, somewhat. I'm 33 yrs. old and I have a 13 yr. old daughter. She just told me 2 or 3 days ago that she is Bi-sexual. I have not taken the news well. I felt the same as you did, at first.

The best thing you can do (I think) is to have faith and give those worries back to God, sweetheart. Worry is the opposite of faith. There is no guarantee that your sister will believe like she does when she's older. The fact is, there's no use in worrying about it anyway. God is and always will be in control.

Trust in Jesus to hear and answer your prayers. He may not do it right away. He does things in His time, because He knows best. There could be many more lessons for your sis to learn before He changes her heart, who knows?

Just pray, give it to God and trust in His judgment....after all, there's nothing you can do about it, right? Let go and let God, sweetie.

I'll be praying for her as well as for her friend. God bless you!