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Prayer or Counseling?

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This topic has been lingering on my mind for so long already two weeks and a month to be exact. The thoughts cannot just get away and most of the time they flow freely even as I go through the day with my daily routine. So maybe I can just share it here.

There are times if not most of the time we experience this issue here at the prayer and counseling section. One would post a prayer request where prayer is needed, but instead of prayer given, we receive a counsel by others. Same is also true at the counseling section; others would just reply "praying for you". In other cases, both prayer and counsel were given. While in other some circumstances, no response at all. Maybe that's a little bit disappointing. Same observation and experience is also true in actual prayer gatherings and counseling sessions when issues and concerns are raised.

Sometimes we just think, all we need is a prayer support why is it there is a lot of blah blah blah even though some just wrote a very simple request .. (LOL) On the other side, a person needing or wanting to hear something will just receive some very few and short comments. Or if given a very long one, it is really what is needed?

During my early years here, I myself wondered this scenario. Even during our prayer gathering before in our Church, I often wonder why is it such a sermon (hehe) is given to someone who is airing his/her concern, with this I remember a co-worker smiling with a blushing face receiving a short sermon after airing a concern (lol). Same is true when advice is seemed needed, one pastor would just say "we will pray for that" - hehe. One time, I've been really very disappointed with my pastor because I'm anticipating for him to at least say even a very simple prayer in one of my life's decision to make that time, but after a very long talk he just bid good bye leaving me dissatisfied. His wife on the other side, on whom I would expect counsel in my darkest moments, just kept silent sitting beside me offering up incessant prayers. One worst experience is there was a time when I've been in my most fearful circumstance, aired my prayer request and it seemed no one gave an answer?

Years past, and the things I've been wondering about I now seemed to understand because I am now doing them myself. lol. There are times I'm that reluctant to even write because I'm thinking this or that person is just asking a prayer request why I need to write some sort of counsel? Same also in the counseling section. Most of the time I won't just reply or reply later as the Lord would lead and give words hoping and praying those would really help the person. As I am sure others have the same hope and prayer and purpose as well.


Ultimately, whether is it a prayer or a counsel being given or received, God does just know what we truly need. Though sometimes we think such words are seemed inappropriate to what we expect, but to the source, he/she just did what they believe they need to say that may give help, hope, encouragement and even illumination to the recipient. In their desire to help others, I can testify myself, I’m also being helped to grow even more and even thankful, encouraged by those needs and concerns being read. I count them always a blessing as they help me cultivate my faith, develop my gifts and exercise the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Though I may not reply to some, but the Lord would just remind me those situations I read on here and bring them in God’s throne of grace during my prayer and devotion. In doing so, the Lord reminded me of the experience I have before and just say, “See my child, I care though it seemed no one may have answered you in your most fearful hour. There is someone I can always call and respond when a need arise though you do not know. That is how I am being concerned with every child of mine like you.”

Dear saints, and children of God here at TJ, God does really know just who you are, what you are, and where you are now. He knows exactly what’s really happening and he is concerned with every detail of our lives. He just knows what we really need.


God bless and have a bountiful day with Jesus.


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Matt 6:25-34!) Thanks TheWidowsOffering for that much needed reminder to us all! I think the reason many of us write in here about our concerns, and or prayers,is that so many can have a word,to help increase our faith about the matter we are concerned about. It is why we need each other so much,yes the Lord knows all things! We just want others to know we know is all. Some of us, like myself who started, out becoming a Lone Ranger for God,( LOL) thought I had no need of anyone!! LOL But we do need another's comfort,at least I sure do.

And if by chance we do not receive this from another,at least we have given another the option to join us in our faith. I think what is most difficult to the believer now, is not so much Jesus, as the people who say they believe. Many of us have seen that very thing in our own lives,those we thought were at least as mature as we ourselves, were not? We are not critical of them of course,but surprised may be the better word for this.We can be reminded by others to measure our own faith daily as well.( 2 cor 13:5) Jesus was not a lone ranger unto himself either. The Father and Holy Spirit joined him wherever he went. If Jesus himself had no need of the Father and Holy Spirit, why do you suppose he went by himself to pray so much?( luke 5:16,Matt 14:23,mark 1:35,Luke 6:12)

Jesus took on flesh so he could feel and know all the emotions that go with that sorry flesh,we look to him, to know what it is like to become free from our flesh.And here in both forums we his children take the opportunity to do just that. We all have the same race,but all of us are not at the same place in that race,those who are ahead of us in some areas ,look to wait on others to join us,or to help get further in our own race.As we ourselves have been helped. For many who already have tough skin to deal with things around us, it can be hard to see how others can have such lack. But we remember the time we were there!! hehe So we endure!( heb 10:36) And help others to do the very same. For the will of God is not only staying thankful daily to him( 1 thess 5:18) but enduring to stay that way!! This we learn.Thanks again sis for the reminder!
 
Thank you BH for your thoughtful supplement. Your reply rekindled the topic I was reading on my devotional the other day about how a Christian could run the race with endurance "it says there patience" actually. I just want to add it here.


Let us run with patience (Hebrews 12:1).To run with patience is a very difficult thing. Running is apt to suggest the absence of patience, the eagerness to reach the goal. We commonly associate patience with lying down. We think of it as the angel that guards the couch of the invalid. Yet, I do not think the invalid's patience the hardest to achieve.

There is a patience which I believe to be harder--the patience that can run. To lie down in the time of grief, to be quiet under the stroke of adverse fortune, implies a great strength; but I know of something that implies a strength greater still: It is the power to work under a stroke; to have a great weight at your heart and still to run; to have a deep anguish in your spirit and still perform the daily task. It is a Christlike thing!

Many of us would nurse our grief without crying if we were allowed to nurse it. The hard thing is that most of us are called to exercise our patience, not in bed, but in the street. We are called to bury our sorrows, not in lethargic quiescence, but in active service--in the exchange, in the workshop, in the hour of social intercourse, in the contribution to another's joy. There is no burial of sorrow so difficult as that; it is the "running with patience.

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This was Thy patience, O Son of man! It was at once a waiting and a running--a waiting for the goal, and a doing of the lesser work meantime. I see Thee at Cana turning the water into wine lest the marriage feast should be clouded. I see Thee in the desert feeding a multitude with bread just to relieve a temporary want. All, all the time, Thou wert bearing a mighty grief, unshared, unspoken. Men ask for a rainbow in the cloud; but I would ask more from Thee. I would be, in my cloud, myself a rainbow -- a minister to others' joy. My patience will be perfect when it can work in the vineyard. --George Matheson

When all our hopes are gone,
'Tis well our hands must keep toiling on
For others' sake:
For strength to bear is found in duty done;
And he is best indeed who learns to make
The joy of others cure his own heartache.

From "Streams in the Dessert" by L.B. Cowman

I am being taught reading this and encouraged as well because sometimes when things seems too hard to bear, the tendency is always wanting a "VACATION".. lol :smiley::shade:
 
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