Question about hell and suicide from a nonbeliever

[me5775]

I know this is a Christian forum, and I hope you dont' mind an nonchristian posting because I wanted advice.

I have major doubts that the bible is true. I can honestly say now that I am not a Christian, that I don't believe in Jesus, and that after death there is nothing but a big, long sleep, and peace. But I wonder.

I have been struggling for a long time with depression. I am bipolar. I am on new meds, which are supposed to kick in soon, but the truth is that I am so tired of the ups and downs, the constant struggle, depression coming and hitting again and again. It's so hard.

So I have been wanting to commit suicide. Tonight, I wanted to die but wasn't sure, so I tied a cord and put the noose around my neck and bent my knees to hang myslelf- I did it that way so that I could get out of the noose at the last minute if I changed my mind. You know, partly I wanted to just see what hanging would be like, so I could stop as I started to black out, but I knew I could die if I waited too long to get out of it. Just as the noose tightened, the phone rang. It was a friend. I debated whether to finish hanging myself or to answer- I decided to answer. I had known my friend was going to call me, though I had thought it would be later that night.

If I had not stopped, if I had ignored the phone and let myself pass out and then hung there and died (I live alone so nowone would have saved me) would I be in hell now?

Is hell real? that is really my question. As a nonbeliever, would I have gone to a bad place to suffer or would my suffering be over had I died? If there is a chance that I would end up in hell, I should fight through this depression. Is there any evidence or proof? I mean proof that hell is real and that hte bible, in general, is true?

Will I go to hell if I commit suicide?

 

[LuvINJesus4eva]

I am VERY happy that you did not commit suicide. Hell is a definite place , and to be honest, you very may well of have been there if it wasn't for the friend calling you. I do know that there are scriptures in the bible that talk about heaven AND hell. One of the scriptures that talks about how hell is real is Matthew 10:28 (New International Version)
28Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Yet, I pray that you do come to know the LORD Jesus and believe in His word, for it is true. It is a blessing you have come here and I pray that I can talk to you more.

Romans10:9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.

My name is Katie and feel free to add me as a friend and email me anytime hope to hear from you God bless you.

 

[HoneyBare]

Hey, friend, I have been in a similar position as far as committing suicide, and I decided to investigate the possibility that there really was a God before I ended it. I ended up becoming a believer, which started me on a new journey which did not include committing suicide.

It wouldn't hurt anything to just talk to God as if He were there and listening (which He is). Pour out your heart to Him and ask Him to help you. He will. Just please consider this before you turn your thoughts to self destruction again. There are many people on this forum who can help you decide. Prayers going up for ya! I'm glad you decided to answer the phone. Bonnie

 

[RJ]

I know this is a Christian forum, and I hope you dont' mind an nonchristian posting because I wanted advice.

I have major doubts that the bible is true. I can honestly say now that I am not a Christian, that I don't believe in Jesus, and that after death there is nothing but a big, long sleep, and peace. But I wonder.

I have been struggling for a long time with depression. I am bipolar. I am on new meds, which are supposed to kick in soon, but the truth is that I am so tired of the ups and downs, the constant struggle, depression coming and hitting again and again. It's so hard.

So I have been wanting to commit suicide. Tonight, I wanted to die but wasn't sure, so I tied a cord and put the noose around my neck and bent my knees to hang myslelf- I did it that way so that I could get out of the noose at the last minute if I changed my mind. You know, partly I wanted to just see what hanging would be like, so I could stop as I started to black out, but I knew I could die if I waited too long to get out of it. Just as the noose tightened, the phone rang. It was a friend. I debated whether to finish hanging myself or to answer- I decided to answer. I had known my friend was going to call me, though I had thought it would be later that night.

If I had not stopped, if I had ignored the phone and let myself pass out and then hung there and died (I live alone so nowone would have saved me) would I be in hell now?

Is hell real? that is really my question. As a nonbeliever, would I have gone to a bad place to suffer or would my suffering be over had I died? If there is a chance that I would end up in hell, I should fight through this depression. Is there any evidence or proof? I mean proof that hell is real and that hte bible, in general, is true?

Will I go to hell if I commit suicide?[/QUOTE]

I have highlited above some of the statements that you have made and given you some answers:

• nonchristian We Christians who, believe in the Bible, naturally, know that it teaches us about this: The Bible is folly to a non-believer, it is imposible for them to believe in It. But by honestly reading it, it has the power to change that!
• major doubts that the bible is true. I don't believe in Jesus, Of course you have doubts, for the reason above. But, have you read it? Look at it this way, do you believe in History books, about the people and times that they talk about? If you do believe in history books then there is a possibility that you could believe the Bible, because it also is a historical document. Now, there is a term that substantiates this, I can't recall it right now but could probably google it. All historical books (history books) have a certain amount of supporting documents (again has a term) that substantiate it's validity. And, no historical book has more substantiating documentation than the Bible and from so many different cultures and languages. Athrodox Jews know of their own historical documents that have them believing that Jesus was real but, they just don't think he is their Messiah. Muslims are totally against Christians and their beliefs but, many of their historical documents cause them to believe that Jesus was real and a "Great Prophet" but, not the son of God! As a believer, I think that God has you here for a reason and that you are seeking truth.
• I have been struggling for a long time with depression. I am bipolar...So I have been wanting to commit suicide. Please, whether you can grasp this or not, we hear at TJ love you and wish for you to have a happy and long life! Please stay here with us, open up your heart and mind and keep asking questions and asking for help. Also, you said you are on meds, so I am assuming that you have a doctor... have you told Him of your suicidal thougts....if not please do so, immediately and stay on those meds!
• Is hell real? We believers, who believe that the Bible is inspired word of God, will tell you that Hell is a very specific and horrible place and for all eternity, it is the anthesis of Heaven.
• Will I go to hell if I commit suicide? Again not believing in the Bible or Jesus, you will have a hard time understanding what believers feel that the Bible has to say on this subject, but here goes: We believe God when He says that there is only one unpardonable sin, the only sin that can keep you out of Heaven and put you in Helll, is the sin of unbelief in Jesus Christ. Now don't get me wrong, we feel that a believer has no reason for commiting suicide but, if the circumstances caused a believing Christian to commit suiciced, it would not keep them out of Heaven and God's loving arms!

Again please believe that you are here for a reason, you searched us out, we didn't seach you out, so atleast give us a thourough test.With that in mind, start reading the Bible as a historical book and just see were it leads you. You have to do your due diligence before you say you beleive in it or not. Also, my suggestion, is for the time being concentrate on the New Testament and only go back to the Old Testament when it is reference to.
Matthew , Mark, Luke,John and Acts will teach you about Jesus.
Romans to Revelation will teach about the gospel. Pay particular attention to the books of Romans,1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians and Hebrews to teach you about these important truths: Forgiveness, Salvation, Resurrection and Grace!

Don't do any thing drastic at this time. Give us here at TJ a chance and keep coming back with more questions.
I tell you the truth my friend, My God loves you so much(even as a non-believer) and wants a relationship with you as if you were the only person in the universe, He is powerful enough to make that happen! And while you think all this over try to put you arms around another truth, God loves you as much as he loves His only begotten Son.
In His Love.

 

[pray for me]

I know this is a Christian forum, and I hope you dont' mind an nonchristian posting because I wanted advice.

I have major doubts that the bible is true. I can honestly say now that I am not a Christian, that I don't believe in Jesus, and that after death there is nothing but a big, long sleep, and peace. But I wonder.

I have been struggling for a long time with depression. I am bipolar. I am on new meds, which are supposed to kick in soon, but the truth is that I am so tired of the ups and downs, the constant struggle, depression coming and hitting again and again. It's so hard.

So I have been wanting to commit suicide. Tonight, I wanted to die but wasn't sure, so I tied a cord and put the noose around my neck and bent my knees to hang myslelf- I did it that way so that I could get out of the noose at the last minute if I changed my mind. You know, partly I wanted to just see what hanging would be like, so I could stop as I started to black out, but I knew I could die if I waited too long to get out of it. Just as the noose tightened, the phone rang. It was a friend. I debated whether to finish hanging myself or to answer- I decided to answer. I had known my friend was going to call me, though I had thought it would be later that night.

If I had not stopped, if I had ignored the phone and let myself pass out and then hung there and died (I live alone so nowone would have saved me) would I be in hell now?

Is hell real? that is really my question. As a nonbeliever, would I have gone to a bad place to suffer or would my suffering be over had I died? If there is a chance that I would end up in hell, I should fight through this depression. Is there any evidence or proof? I mean proof that hell is real and that hte bible, in general, is true?

Will I go to hell if I commit suicide?

It is no coincidence that the phone rang and you decided to answer it. And then you came to this site. I think God saved you from taking your own life and then directed you here to TJ! It sounds to me that He is drawing you to Himself. John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. He is directing you to His truths! I thank God that He let your phone ring at the right time. Ask and ye shall receive, seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened unto you. There are many people here at TJ that are led by God to help you in your times of trouble! Just hang in there, and He will help you!

 

[Boanerges]

It is no coincidence that the phone rang and you decided to answer it. And then you came to this site. I think God saved you from taking your own life and then directed you here to TJ! It sounds to me that He is drawing you to Himself. John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. He is directing you to His truths! I thank God that He let your phone ring at the right time. Ask and ye shall receive, seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened unto you. There are many people here at TJ that are led by God to help you in your times of trouble! Just hang in there, and He will help you!

Amen x 10 my friend.

There are no accidents and God is knocking on the door of me5775's heart.
Jesus died to give us eternal life. Don't even think of taking one more step without Him.

 

[shipwrecksoul]

I know this is a Christian forum, and I hope you dont' mind an nonchristian posting because I wanted advice.

I have major doubts that the bible is true. I can honestly say now that I am not a Christian, that I don't believe in Jesus, and that after death there is nothing but a big, long sleep, and peace. But I wonder.

I have been struggling for a long time with depression. I am bipolar. I am on new meds, which are supposed to kick in soon, but the truth is that I am so tired of the ups and downs, the constant struggle, depression coming and hitting again and again. It's so hard.

So I have been wanting to commit suicide. Tonight, I wanted to die but wasn't sure, so I tied a cord and put the noose around my neck and bent my knees to hang myslelf- I did it that way so that I could get out of the noose at the last minute if I changed my mind. You know, partly I wanted to just see what hanging would be like, so I could stop as I started to black out, but I knew I could die if I waited too long to get out of it. Just as the noose tightened, the phone rang. It was a friend. I debated whether to finish hanging myself or to answer- I decided to answer. I had known my friend was going to call me, though I had thought it would be later that night.

If I had not stopped, if I had ignored the phone and let myself pass out and then hung there and died (I live alone so nowone would have saved me) would I be in hell now?

Is hell real? that is really my question. As a nonbeliever, would I have gone to a bad place to suffer or would my suffering be over had I died? If there is a chance that I would end up in hell, I should fight through this depression. Is there any evidence or proof? I mean proof that hell is real and that hte bible, in general, is true?

Will I go to hell if I commit suicide?

Dear fellow human being A.K.A unbeliever (me5775), Through the mercy of God he wants to show you his grace, no one need ever go to hell. Jesus said so! He even hears you right now. Your not alone.
As far as your question everyone without having a personal relationship with God through Jesus will be separated from his Love for all eternity in a place called hell.
So please if your honest enough to see a reality for permanency for yourself that happens at death take the time and ask God to show you who he is. Take the time to ask people here at this forum who have come to know the reality of who Jesus is in their life who some have suffered the same hurts and weaknesses as yourself.
God loves you! And there are people here who want to know about you who are real in their endeavor to relate real love that God has shown them.
So don't focus on hell through being bipolar focus on that u have the knowledge of what bipolar is and how you respond and your thoughts on the good days and how you respond and your thoughts on the bad days.
I am willing to keep in touch

 

[me5775]

Thank you so much for your kindness- and most of all, your prayers.

I have to share with you the most incredible thing.

Something happened that must have been God.

I had a dream. It was the most vivid and real dream I have ever had. I dreamed that my best friend died- was murdered - her and her daughter- and died horribly. It was the worst dream of my life. I am still shaking. After I found out in the dream of her death, the dream didn't end it just went on and on for it seemed hours. I was so completely overwhelmed in the dream- screaming at the universe, yelling until I couldn't yell anymore, hitting walls. Then I cried and cried. then I refused to eat and couldn't sleep, overwhelmed with the most intense grief I have ever felt in my life. It was so real.

When I woke up, I thought she was still dead. It took a while to realize it had been a dream. I called my friend and just told he I loved her over and over again.

She said "That is the way I would feel if you killed yourself"

I could not bear the pain of knowing my loved one died a horrible death even for a little while. I could NEVER subject my loved ones to that kind of pain.

Now I realize how horrible suicide is. I am DETERMINED NOT TO DO IT!!! I will NOT do it, no matter how bad it gets!

If it gets real bad again,I will call the police and tell them to bring m e to the hospital.It will be embarrassng but I WILL do it.

I love you all, thank you for you prayers, and I look forward to continuing to get to know you for a very long time!

 

[HeIsMyFather]

Praise the Lord that he put it on your friend's heart to call you at that moment!

God IS seeking you out, me 5775! If, as you had believed, there was no hell (and therefore, no heaven) you would be gone now. And our Almighty God does not want you to suffer there for all eternity!

Know now that there IS God, the Great I AM. You and your life is of great interest and importance to him, and each person who will hear him....no matter how great their unbelief....can come unto him for forgiveness and deliverance!

As has been suggested, speak to your doctor about your suicidal thoughts and let him help you. Know also, that God can help you through your afflictions; I pray that you will come to know with all certainty that God is real, and he wants you to be saved through the Blood of His Son, Jesus Christ.

Edit to add: God sent you that dream to show you how it would have been if you had succeeded. If that had made you feel so bad...imagine how much more God feels when someone dies not knowing the blessings of his forgiveness! He does care and we do too!

 

[Boanerges]

Thank you so much for your kindness- and most of all, your prayers.

I have to share with you the most incredible thing.

Something happened that must have been God.

I had a dream. It was the most vivid and real dream I have ever had. I dreamed that my best friend died- was murdered - her and her daughter- and died horribly. It was the worst dream of my life. I am still shaking. After I found out in the dream of her death, the dream didn't end it just went on and on for it seemed hours. I was so completely overwhelmed in the dream- screaming at the universe, yelling until I couldn't yell anymore, hitting walls. Then I cried and cried. then I refused to eat and couldn't sleep, overwhelmed with the most intense grief I have ever felt in my life. It was so real.

When I woke up, I thought she was still dead. It took a while to realize it had been a dream. I called my friend and just told he I loved her over and over again.

She said "That is the way I would feel if you killed yourself"

I could not bear the pain of knowing my loved one died a horrible death even for a little while. I could NEVER subject my loved ones to that kind of pain.

Now I realize how horrible suicide is. I am DETERMINED NOT TO DO IT!!! I will NOT do it, no matter how bad it gets!

If it gets real bad again,I will call the police and tell them to bring m e to the hospital.It will be embarrassng but I WILL do it.

I love you all, thank you for you prayers, and I look forward to continuing to get to know you for a very long time!

"Providence is the hand of God in the glove of circumstance" JV McGhee

I am so please to see you moving in a good direction. Have an open heart and you will find God.

 

[yort]

wittnes

Hey, there was something that provided for your thinking a provission to live. Something in you, wants life more than death.

There are countless verses to explain all that you listed in your post, but the Bible also tells us, the brethern that these are things that will sound foolish to you.

The act that is part of your death wheather it be of your own doing or what would seem right to say to you,"Natural accurances", doesn`t matter. what matters is that your not saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, that`s the part that put you in Hell.

Man that is hard for me to type, but there``s no sense in trying to sugar coat what I, myself believe to be true.

The thing being on your knee`s., the phone call, what do you think? Sounds like the Lord spared your life to me, sounds like that He`s got plains for you, that He thinks there`s a purpose for you .

Do you really think that is to much to believe, that God loves you so much that He gave His son to die for you so that He could fellowship with you, that He could outline His purpose for you in this world, that just maybe your the one that He`s called to be a use in someone elses life. Well let me tell you , your lucky man, some accomplish the selfish act of suicde and never get the great chance to rise above their hardships and help others .

I don`t mean to sound cruel and not carring, I serve a God that impowers us to do great things, to rise up above, and to overcome and be positive, not to just for ourself`s but to others.

Listen man, He might just be knocking at your door.

Amen

Troy

 

[me5775]

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