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Rebirth

NetChaplain

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Thankfully, misunderstanding being reborn cannot detract anything salvific from the believer in Christ, but it will most definitely delay spiritual growth in learning to “walk in the Spirit” and in being “conformed to the image of Christ.” I say “delay” and not hinder because everyone reborn is undergoing the same “work” of God within that instills the saint with the “desire” and “ability” for His “good pleasure” (Phil 2:13).

In this passage, there are no given restrictions to those reborn (i.e. includes all reborn) concerning God’s “work in you.” This means there will always be within the believer the desire and ability for His pleasure! Hence, if one professing faith manifests the opposite lifestyle of this “work,” there can only be one explanation—God was not within, because He works this in all who are reborn. To refute this conclusion would be to admit that one could overcome God in His work to impart these elements.

By the believer God can be “quenched” (1 Thes 5:19) and “grieved” (Eph 4:30), but never “resisted” (Act 7:51), otherwise this “work” of God would never be received by any man, due to the sinful nature, which has to be offset by the new nature, via the Spirit (Gal 5:17; Eph 3:16).

This answers to the reason why there cannot be found any teachings among Bible commentators that support opposition to the permanency of faith and salvation!
NC
 
@NetChaplain,
These are not just any scriptures, they are the "principle" foundation of Salvation from sins.
1Co 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also you have received, and wherein you stand;
1Co 15:2 By which also "you are saved," "if" (conditionally) you keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless you have "believed in vain."
1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that "Christ died for our sins" according to the scriptures;

A believer is either saved and delivered from their sins or they are not.

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for "he shall "save" his people from their sins."

Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened (given life) us together with Christ, ("by grace you are saved";)

Eph 2:8 For by "grace are you saved" through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the "gift of God:"
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

We have received the free Gift of Eternal Righteousness (which is Christ in us) without our works. As long as Christ is in a believer, they cannot be "IN" "unrighteousness" - only by the Grace of God. Without this Gift a man could not approach the throne of God. A believer cannot be righteous and unrighteous in spirit or go before God's throne with sin. This is why the vail was rent and taken away. The veil was only there because of "sin" and not the penalty. A believer is not "IN" the flesh and can never be "IN" the flesh after becoming born again (Rom. 7:5; 8:9). They can, however, live "after" the flesh (Rom. 8:12, 13). If a believer lives after the flesh, they will die.

Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to "his mercy he saved us," by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
 
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