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Itsme

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Having grown up in a Christian family I have gone to church and believed in God from the get-go.
Being a kind of person that somehow feels entitled for things to just happen to me -because I am a good guy- I was mostly just waiting for God to put my life on track. Basically find a wife for me, give me job-opportunities etc.
I literally expected for a woman to just be on front of me, God giving me a sign “this is the one” and her just wanting me to take her as my wife!



After living like that through my teens and early adulthood there came a day where I just blamed God for me not progressing.
“Ok God, you clearly aren’t doing your job here, so what am I supposed to do?”
So I went out in the world, started drinking, sleeping with lots and lots of women and somehow believing that was ok since God didn’t keep his part of the deal.



Now I have been in a relationship with a woman for almost 10 years.
The relationship was mostly me knowing that I don’t want to marry her, but it was a convenient relationship with lots of fun and we still lived separately so I could be on my own if I felt like it.
That also helped covering over the obvious issues we had, because as soon stuff was about to boil over I could just go stay at my place for a little bit.



Almost 5 years ago she got pregnant and reality kicked in for me. “****, now I can’t leave anymore!”
She wanted an abortion and I fought hard for her to keep the baby which she did in the end.

We moved in together and started raising our child.
It was pretty much constant fighting over small and big things, not agreeing about parenting style not really being suited to live with one another etc.

When COVID things got really bad. The only positive aspect was that we both realised early on that the whole pandemic is mostly a manufactured bullshit story.

Our country got pretty authoritarian at the tail end and we made the decision to move away (which we are still in the process of).

Now recently things got to a breaking point as we have very different parenting styles.

While I believe that a child (especially a son) needs to have clear boundaries going up to “don’t spare the rod”, my girlfriend is of the believe that a 4 year old doesn’t need punishment and they would not understand it anyways.
My son started hitting me recently and my girlfriend wants me to just let him do it and ignore it until he stops on his own.

That led to a breaking point where I told her we have to separate because there is no way for us to work as a team with such differences.


Recently (the last 3 month or so) I started going back to church and I have started doing something that I never did in my earlier years as a Christian.

I actually became interested and tried to understand who Jesus was/is. Back in the days I always liked the Old Testament but didn’t really care for the new one.



After telling my girlfriend we have to separate and left for two days and did a lot of soul-searching. In that process I dropped on the floor and prayed to Jesus to please take over my life and guide me.

I am obviously at the very beginning of this process and still starting out. Not being quit clear what Jesus wants and where he is going to lead me.
What I do know is that I want to follow him.
I went back to my girlfriend and son on Monday and we are trying to work things out.

I am now in a very weird spot where I am trying to figure out if I should leave her. She is not happy about the “God-thing” and after she came on to me and I told her I don’t want to have pre-marital sex anymore she was at a breaking point.

Looking at it from the outside, she obviously has every right for her reaction.
This is not the guy she got together with. This is not what she signed off on.
I was always of the believe that I have to stick with her and out son for the little one to have a mum and dad. This was for moral reasons, not for religious ones.
Now I am at a point where I wonder if it is creating more harm than good.
I have been looking for answers and places like Corinthians in the bible are giving some insight.

1 Corrinthians
12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?



As we are not married I wonder if this applies to me. Also baring in mind that -as I read it- I as the believer should not leave her but let her go if she wants to.
This is not the case with us as she said she wants to fight for us to stay together.
She also said she does not want to get married as she fears I would only do it for religious reasons.



As you can see I am at a bit of a loss.



If you took the time to read this email and you do have some advice or insight, I would very much appreciate to hear from you.

Thank you,
 
Brother itsme, First welcome! As an elder in the Church, I would like to show you some things if I may, NO Judgments rendered upon you either! I remember doing basically the same thing until after I became a believer, a brother in the Lord showed me this scripture! (1 Cor 6:15-20) Now does this mean that in God's eyes you are already married?? I will let you decide this brother. But as for me I like you stopped doing those things.

My girlfriend of 2 years was very upset at the fact that now in Christ Jesus, I have to become a doer of the Word not just acknowledge I believe in Jesus, for if we are true believers then my good brother we must act as one! (James 1:22) A dog does not act like a cat, lol and we must act as believers. Now I would suggest finding a good church for support, for we all no matter how much we believe we know, need support! Now the question you must answer is how serious you are becoming a true believer, it sure is not easy!! I can sure attest to that!

BUT!!!! Part of being a believer is learning how to endure others as well as your feeling, for feeling has nothing to do with faith! Because as we can both find out feeling can lead to very poor judgment. I am not about to tell you what you already found out! STAY IN GOD'S WORD DAILY!!!! You will be ridiculed, cussed at, and even mocked; you must stand your ground brother in Christ Jesus! Holy Spirit will help you!!(1 John 2:27) You sure have my prayers brother; my hope should now be your hope! (Romans 15:13-16) NEVER GIVE UP!!! You my good brother do not stand alone!! We believers who truly do love each other through our blessed Savior Jesus Christ stand with you in your corner!! Blessing brother! In Christ your brother Mark.
 
@Itsme

Greetings,

as I read it- I as the believer should not leave her but let her go if she wants to.
This is not the case with us as she said she wants to fight for us to stay together.
She also said she does not want to get married as she fears I would only do it for religious reasons.



As you can see I am at a bit of a loss.

take a look at your words here.

as a believer! Who do you believe in, yourself or the Lord? Your wife or the Lord? (you don't have to answer me, here, Brother)

I as the believer should not leave her ... stick with it

as she said she wants to fight for us to stay together. so... do you want to fight for that, too? Tell her you do, commit together, and remind each other that you agree on that... if and when times get trying and tough.... as well as at the good times... celebrate the together fight and remember, do all things to the glory of God, not for your own gain.
Point is, seems like staying together is the plan... you've started something, God has blessed you both with the lad; press on and enjoy that He has also revealed His love to you as a Father... reciprocate His love to your wife and son... He is gentle and long-suffering, patient and kind, knows all about turning the other cheek and practiced His preach as the Way to preach it (get that hint, Brother)ps.. no more beatings for the lad, ever wonder where he got the idea from?
My son started hitting me recently

gentle is ok.. and certainly ok for men, too!
(i am SO glad He is gentle with me... and not dealing as a 'man' with me. I imagine you think likewise? )

She also said she does not want to get married as she fears I would only do it for religious reasons.
fair enough. It might be like, sort of, he doesn't want to marry me because he loves me or cares two hoots for me... he is only doing it because he has to... yes, fair enough if she thinks that.
Lots will tell you that you are already married as such.

blend that with this:
As you can see I am at a bit of a loss.

Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in Him; and He shall bring it to pass.
Psalm 37:5

Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established.

Proverbs 16:3

Cast all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you.

1Peter 5:7

Cast your burden upon the LORD and He will sustain you; He will never let the righteous be shaken
Psalm 55:22

Trust in Him at all times, O people; pour out your hearts before Him. God is our refuge. Selah
Psalm 62:8


My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: or length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee.

Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart: so shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man.

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths.

Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

Proverbs 3:1-7

memorize these few snippets of Scripture, make a point of it, live it and don't ever expect wife or child to be perfect according to what you think they should be if you are not at least that perfect yourself... and if in that case you are, you will not expect such from them!
remember too that you are not an expert in parenting, neither is your wife, look to the Lord... He ordained it and knows best, better than you and me and everyone else put together.. and more!

The Lord wants you to know His love ... (the Scribes and Chief Priests, the Pharisees and Lawyers all knew the laws and made it their life to live them [to get it right] and make others do likewise, complete with judgements... BUT they knew not about the Lord and His love.. and crucified Him )

the wife wants to know your love ... (reciprocate some of God's Love for you... remember it is not because you deserve it.. while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us Romans 5:8 )

the lad is watching ...

Love and peace

Jesus is Lord


Bless you ....><>
 
As we know there are many wonderful promises in Christ Jesus, I just would have liked not having this promise!! LOL (2 Tim 3:12) I can tell you one promise for certain!!(1 Cor 16:13) We see that our will is involved!! And if you remain steadfast the Lord himself will greatly reward you!! He sure did me and I am most thankful!!(Hebrews 11:6) To stay in his will all the time you only have to preform one function!! STAY THANKFUL!!! (1 Thess 5:18)
 
Having grown up in a Christian family I have gone to church and believed in God from the get-go.
Being a kind of person that somehow feels entitled for things to just happen to me -because I am a good guy- I was mostly just waiting for God to put my life on track. Basically find a wife for me, give me job-opportunities etc.
I literally expected for a woman to just be on front of me, God giving me a sign “this is the one” and her just wanting me to take her as my wife!



After living like that through my teens and early adulthood there came a day where I just blamed God for me not progressing.
“Ok God, you clearly aren’t doing your job here, so what am I supposed to do?”
So I went out in the world, started drinking, sleeping with lots and lots of women and somehow believing that was ok since God didn’t keep his part of the deal.



Now I have been in a relationship with a woman for almost 10 years.
The relationship was mostly me knowing that I don’t want to marry her, but it was a convenient relationship with lots of fun and we still lived separately so I could be on my own if I felt like it.
That also helped covering over the obvious issues we had, because as soon stuff was about to boil over I could just go stay at my place for a little bit.



Almost 5 years ago she got pregnant and reality kicked in for me. “****, now I can’t leave anymore!”
She wanted an abortion and I fought hard for her to keep the baby which she did in the end.

We moved in together and started raising our child.
It was pretty much constant fighting over small and big things, not agreeing about parenting style not really being suited to live with one another etc.

When COVID things got really bad. The only positive aspect was that we both realised early on that the whole pandemic is mostly a manufactured bullshit story.

Our country got pretty authoritarian at the tail end and we made the decision to move away (which we are still in the process of).

Now recently things got to a breaking point as we have very different parenting styles.

While I believe that a child (especially a son) needs to have clear boundaries going up to “don’t spare the rod”, my girlfriend is of the believe that a 4 year old doesn’t need punishment and they would not understand it anyways.
My son started hitting me recently and my girlfriend wants me to just let him do it and ignore it until he stops on his own.

That led to a breaking point where I told her we have to separate because there is no way for us to work as a team with such differences.


Recently (the last 3 month or so) I started going back to church and I have started doing something that I never did in my earlier years as a Christian.

I actually became interested and tried to understand who Jesus was/is. Back in the days I always liked the Old Testament but didn’t really care for the new one.



After telling my girlfriend we have to separate and left for two days and did a lot of soul-searching. In that process I dropped on the floor and prayed to Jesus to please take over my life and guide me.

I am obviously at the very beginning of this process and still starting out. Not being quit clear what Jesus wants and where he is going to lead me.
What I do know is that I want to follow him.
I went back to my girlfriend and son on Monday and we are trying to work things out.

I am now in a very weird spot where I am trying to figure out if I should leave her. She is not happy about the “God-thing” and after she came on to me and I told her I don’t want to have pre-marital sex anymore she was at a breaking point.

Looking at it from the outside, she obviously has every right for her reaction.
This is not the guy she got together with. This is not what she signed off on.
I was always of the believe that I have to stick with her and out son for the little one to have a mum and dad. This was for moral reasons, not for religious ones.
Now I am at a point where I wonder if it is creating more harm than good.
I have been looking for answers and places like Corinthians in the bible are giving some insight.

1 Corrinthians
12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?



As we are not married I wonder if this applies to me. Also baring in mind that -as I read it- I as the believer should not leave her but let her go if she wants to.
This is not the case with us as she said she wants to fight for us to stay together.
She also said she does not want to get married as she fears I would only do it for religious reasons.



As you can see I am at a bit of a loss.




If you took the time to read this email and you do have some advice or insight, I would very much appreciate to hear from you.

Thank you,
Your relationship right now is of the least concern. From the things you have revealed there are sins in your life you have not even dealt with properly:

1) Years of premarital sex
2) Having a child with an unbeliever you have not even married (unequally yoked)

Have you repented of the above and asked God for forgiveness? If there are unrepented sins in your life your prayers will be hindered. Deal with the sins in your life first, then leave the relationship outcome to God. Accept whatever the outcome. No one in your life should hinder your walk with God, if your “gf” is pressurising you to commit sexual immorality keep distance. Be a man and take responsibility in caring for the child.
 
Having grown up in a Christian family I have gone to church and believed in God from the get-go.
Being a kind of person that somehow feels entitled for things to just happen to me -because I am a good guy- I was mostly just waiting for God to put my life on track. Basically find a wife for me, give me job-opportunities etc.
I literally expected for a woman to just be on front of me, God giving me a sign “this is the one” and her just wanting me to take her as my wife!



After living like that through my teens and early adulthood there came a day where I just blamed God for me not progressing.
“Ok God, you clearly aren’t doing your job here, so what am I supposed to do?”
So I went out in the world, started drinking, sleeping with lots and lots of women and somehow believing that was ok since God didn’t keep his part of the deal.



Now I have been in a relationship with a woman for almost 10 years.
The relationship was mostly me knowing that I don’t want to marry her, but it was a convenient relationship with lots of fun and we still lived separately so I could be on my own if I felt like it.
That also helped covering over the obvious issues we had, because as soon stuff was about to boil over I could just go stay at my place for a little bit.



Almost 5 years ago she got pregnant and reality kicked in for me. “****, now I can’t leave anymore!”
She wanted an abortion and I fought hard for her to keep the baby which she did in the end.

We moved in together and started raising our child.
It was pretty much constant fighting over small and big things, not agreeing about parenting style not really being suited to live with one another etc.

When COVID things got really bad. The only positive aspect was that we both realised early on that the whole pandemic is mostly a manufactured bullshit story.

Our country got pretty authoritarian at the tail end and we made the decision to move away (which we are still in the process of).

Now recently things got to a breaking point as we have very different parenting styles.

While I believe that a child (especially a son) needs to have clear boundaries going up to “don’t spare the rod”, my girlfriend is of the believe that a 4 year old doesn’t need punishment and they would not understand it anyways.
My son started hitting me recently and my girlfriend wants me to just let him do it and ignore it until he stops on his own.

That led to a breaking point where I told her we have to separate because there is no way for us to work as a team with such differences.


Recently (the last 3 month or so) I started going back to church and I have started doing something that I never did in my earlier years as a Christian.

I actually became interested and tried to understand who Jesus was/is. Back in the days I always liked the Old Testament but didn’t really care for the new one.



After telling my girlfriend we have to separate and left for two days and did a lot of soul-searching. In that process I dropped on the floor and prayed to Jesus to please take over my life and guide me.

I am obviously at the very beginning of this process and still starting out. Not being quit clear what Jesus wants and where he is going to lead me.
What I do know is that I want to follow him.
I went back to my girlfriend and son on Monday and we are trying to work things out.

I am now in a very weird spot where I am trying to figure out if I should leave her. She is not happy about the “God-thing” and after she came on to me and I told her I don’t want to have pre-marital sex anymore she was at a breaking point.

Looking at it from the outside, she obviously has every right for her reaction.
This is not the guy she got together with. This is not what she signed off on.
I was always of the believe that I have to stick with her and out son for the little one to have a mum and dad. This was for moral reasons, not for religious ones.
Now I am at a point where I wonder if it is creating more harm than good.
I have been looking for answers and places like Corinthians in the bible are giving some insight.

1 Corrinthians
12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?



As we are not married I wonder if this applies to me. Also baring in mind that -as I read it- I as the believer should not leave her but let her go if she wants to.
This is not the case with us as she said she wants to fight for us to stay together.
She also said she does not want to get married as she fears I would only do it for religious reasons.



As you can see I am at a bit of a loss.




If you took the time to read this email and you do have some advice or insight, I would very much appreciate to hear from you.

Thank you,

Children need both styles at the same time. one parent can be authoritarian-ish and the other who bothers to explain why it is wrong or bad. They value from both. But above all grace, truth, and love, must dominate.
 
Having grown up in a Christian family I have gone to church and believed in God from the get-go.
Being a kind of person that somehow feels entitled for things to just happen to me -because I am a good guy- I was mostly just waiting for God to put my life on track. Basically find a wife for me, give me job-opportunities etc.
I literally expected for a woman to just be on front of me, God giving me a sign “this is the one” and her just wanting me to take her as my wife!



After living like that through my teens and early adulthood there came a day where I just blamed God for me not progressing.
“Ok God, you clearly aren’t doing your job here, so what am I supposed to do?”
So I went out in the world, started drinking, sleeping with lots and lots of women and somehow believing that was ok since God didn’t keep his part of the deal.



Now I have been in a relationship with a woman for almost 10 years.
The relationship was mostly me knowing that I don’t want to marry her, but it was a convenient relationship with lots of fun and we still lived separately so I could be on my own if I felt like it.
That also helped covering over the obvious issues we had, because as soon stuff was about to boil over I could just go stay at my place for a little bit.



Almost 5 years ago she got pregnant and reality kicked in for me. “****, now I can’t leave anymore!”
She wanted an abortion and I fought hard for her to keep the baby which she did in the end.

We moved in together and started raising our child.
It was pretty much constant fighting over small and big things, not agreeing about parenting style not really being suited to live with one another etc.

When COVID things got really bad. The only positive aspect was that we both realised early on that the whole pandemic is mostly a manufactured bullshit story.

Our country got pretty authoritarian at the tail end and we made the decision to move away (which we are still in the process of).

Now recently things got to a breaking point as we have very different parenting styles.

While I believe that a child (especially a son) needs to have clear boundaries going up to “don’t spare the rod”, my girlfriend is of the believe that a 4 year old doesn’t need punishment and they would not understand it anyways.
My son started hitting me recently and my girlfriend wants me to just let him do it and ignore it until he stops on his own.

That led to a breaking point where I told her we have to separate because there is no way for us to work as a team with such differences.


Recently (the last 3 month or so) I started going back to church and I have started doing something that I never did in my earlier years as a Christian.

I actually became interested and tried to understand who Jesus was/is. Back in the days I always liked the Old Testament but didn’t really care for the new one.



After telling my girlfriend we have to separate and left for two days and did a lot of soul-searching. In that process I dropped on the floor and prayed to Jesus to please take over my life and guide me.

I am obviously at the very beginning of this process and still starting out. Not being quit clear what Jesus wants and where he is going to lead me.
What I do know is that I want to follow him.
I went back to my girlfriend and son on Monday and we are trying to work things out.

I am now in a very weird spot where I am trying to figure out if I should leave her. She is not happy about the “God-thing” and after she came on to me and I told her I don’t want to have pre-marital sex anymore she was at a breaking point.

Looking at it from the outside, she obviously has every right for her reaction.
This is not the guy she got together with. This is not what she signed off on.
I was always of the believe that I have to stick with her and out son for the little one to have a mum and dad. This was for moral reasons, not for religious ones.
Now I am at a point where I wonder if it is creating more harm than good.
I have been looking for answers and places like Corinthians in the bible are giving some insight.

1 Corrinthians
12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?



As we are not married I wonder if this applies to me. Also baring in mind that -as I read it- I as the believer should not leave her but let her go if she wants to.
This is not the case with us as she said she wants to fight for us to stay together.
She also said she does not want to get married as she fears I would only do it for religious reasons.



As you can see I am at a bit of a loss.



If you took the time to read this email and you do have some advice or insight, I would very much appreciate to hear from you.

Thank you,
Hiya there

Let me start by saying my mom is Roman Catholic n my dad he is an atheist my dad mind you adopted me when I was 4 or so my biological one he was Roman Catholic he hung himself in prison he n my mom was married n he used to beat the crap out of her he also shattered my godfathers jaw

With all that being said my dad the man I call my dad he is atheist yet he sent me to a little private Catholic school as a child so I could learn n make my owns decisions Nothing was eva forced on me

As for you what has to b done is what is best for the child to grow in an loving n nourishing environment

If you truly want the answe of what you need to do you gotta ask YH (God) n talk to Him n ponder n b still n Know He is God His words are faithful n true if you knock He will answer n if you ask He will answer
B not like the old ones who hardened their Heart when they Heard Him

Seek always the kingdom first friend n know all things will b laid out n He will always bring you outta troubles but you gott listen to what He say

I will pray for clarity for you n know it is written

I will teach my children in those days n these days r those days

✌️Twistie
 
Your relationship right now is of the least concern. From the things you have revealed there are sins in your life you have not even dealt with properly:

1) Years of premarital sex
2) Having a child with an unbeliever you have not even married (unequally yoked)

Have you repented of the above and asked God for forgiveness? If there are unrepented sins in your life your prayers will be hindered. Deal with the sins in your life first, then leave the relationship outcome to God. Accept whatever the outcome. No one in your life should hinder your walk with God, if your “gf” is pressurising you to commit sexual immorality keep distance. Be a man and take responsibility in caring for the child.
He's. Is not asking you what he has done wrong he is asking for advice geez I'd neva ask u anything that's for sure
There is a time to tare n a time to build one up he already torn up what's wrong with u?
YH desires Mercy above all else n I see you have very little
Why do you use YH of Love to tare a person down even more sit There n accuse accuse accuse when he spoke what he did you sound horrible js
Twistie
 
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