Sad Friday

[Beetow]

Jesus' crucifixion was a plus and a minus. For those of us fearful of an eternity
suffering in fire, his crucifixion is a very big plus because by it, we have recourse to
a God-given safety net.

• Isa 53:5 . . But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our
iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are
healed.

• Isa 53:6 . . All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his
own way; and The Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

• John 1:29 . . Behold the lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

• 1John 2:1-2 . . If any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ
the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also
for the sins of the whole world.

The minus side to this was his mother's grief.

• Luke 2:33-35 . . The child's father and mother marveled at what was said about
him. Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother; "This child is
destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will
be spoken against, so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. And a
sword will pierce your own soul too.

Jesus' mom attended his crucifixion. (John 19:25) She saw the crown of thorns on
his head; she watched as Roman soldiers drove nails into his hands and feet; and
she watched as they cast lots for his garment.

As brutal as all that they had done to her boy, the worst was what God did to Jesus
before he passed away.

• Isa 52:14 . . Many were shocked when they saw him-- beaten and bloodied; so
disfigured one would scarcely know he was a man.

I'm guessing that the bruising, the stripes, and the wounding spoken of by Isa
53:5, that disfigured Jesus beyond recognition per Isa 52:14, was done in private
during the three hours of darkness that concealed the cross.

However, though Jesus' mom couldn't see in the dark, she could hear.

• Ps 22:1 . . My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far
from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? (cf. Matt 27:46)

The Hebrew word for "roaring" is sheagah (sheh-aw-gaw') which means: a rumbling
or moan.

In other words: people standing around the cross that day during those three hours
of darkness couldn't see anything, but they could sure hear; and what they heard
were the dreadful sounds of a man in extreme discomfort as God laid into him for
the sins of the whole world.

It's okay to feel pity for Jesus' mom, but let's not make the mistake of feeling sorry
for Jesus as if he were the victim of some awful misfortune. It was God's will to
crush him; and for a very good purpose. Relative to that purpose I can honestly
say: better Jesus on that cross than me in the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev
20:11-15 where folk will have to undergo death akin to a foundry worker falling
into a kettle of molten iron.
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[GodB4Us]

One can read about extra Biblical evidence of the unexplained darkness at Jesus's crucifixion at this link; Darkness at the crucifixion: metaphor or real history?

Quoting from link ~~~~"Phlegon was a Greek historian who wrote an extensive chronology aroundAD137: "In the fourth year of the 202nd Olympiad (i.e.,AD33) there was ‘the greatest eclipse of the sun’ and that ‘it became night in the sixth hour of the day [i.e., noon] so that stars even appeared in the heavens. There was a great earthquake in Bithynia, and many things were overturned in Nicaea.’7

Phlegon provides powerful confirmation of the Gospel accounts. He identifies the year and the exact time of day. In addition, he writes of an earthquake accompanying the darkness, which is specifically recorded in Matthew’s Gospel (Matthew 27:51). However, like Thallus, he fallaciously attempts to interpret the darkness as a direct effect of a solar eclipse.

Africanus composed a five volume History of the World aroundAD221. He was also a pagan convert to Christianity. His historical scholarship so impressed Roman Emperor Alexander Severus that Africanus was entrusted with the official responsibility of building the Emperor’s library at the Pantheon in Rome. Africanus writes:

"On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun. For the Hebrews celebrate the passover on the 14th day according to the moon, and the passion of our Savior falls on the day before the passover; but an eclipse of the sun takes place only when the moon comes under the sun. And it cannot happen at any other time but in the interval between the first day of the new moon and the last of the old, that is, at their junction: how then should an eclipse be supposed to happen when the moon is almost diametrically opposite the sun? Let opinion pass however; let it carry the majority with it; and let this portent of the world be deemed an eclipse of the sun, like others a portent only to the eye. Phlegon records that, in the time of Tiberius Caesar, at full moon, there was a full eclipse of the sun from the sixth hour to the ninth—manifestly that one of which we speak. But what has an eclipse in common with an earthquake, the rending rocks, and the resurrection of the dead, and so great a perturbation throughout the universe? Surely no such event as this is recorded for a long period.8 "

Africanus rightly argues that a solar eclipse could not have occurred during the lunar cycle of the Passover, as this diagram shows. He also questions the link between an eclipse, an earthquake, and the miraculous events recorded in Matthew’s Gospel. Eclipses do not set off earthquakes and bodily resurrections. We also know that eclipses only last for several minutes, not three hours. For Africanus, naturalistic explanations for the darkness at the crucifixion were grossly insufficient, as he showed by applying real science. ~~~~~End of quote from link

Looks to me that when our Creator took our sins upon Himself on the cross in experiencing that separation from the Father, it was also seen in His creation by that unexplained darkness.

Jesus suffered much as God Our Redeemer out of love for us in giving Himself as a ransom for many.

John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

May we see the love of God for us in that He is willing to take us all the way Home as the Good Shepherd He is in helping us to abide in His words in following Him as His disciples in loving others as ourselves by the same grace of God we are saved by... by faith in Jesus Christ.

Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[GodB4Us]

If any one wonders if the Jews were to blame for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, Jesus said this;

John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

 

[Beetow]

Incidentally, Jesus' mom became one of his faithful followers.

• Acts 1:6-14 . . So when they met together, they asked him: Lord, are you at this
time going to restore the kingdom to Israel? He said to them: It is not for you to
know the times or dates the Father has set by His own authority. But you will
receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in
Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. After he said
this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

. . .They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two
men dressed in white stood beside them. Men of Galilee --they said --why do you
stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you
into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.

. . .Then they returned to Jerusalem from the hill called the Mount of Olives, a
Sabbath day's walk from the city. When they arrived, they went upstairs to the
room where they were staying. Those present were Peter, John, James and
Andrew; Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew; James son of Alphaeus and
Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. They all joined together constantly in
prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers.

I think we can safely posit that later, when the flames of God alighted on the group,
Jesus' mom was included.

• Acts 2:1-4 . .When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one
place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and
filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be
tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were
filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled
them.

FYI: There's a sculpture in Rome-- called The Pieta --depicting Jesus' mom cradling
his lifeless body in her lap. The scene is a fake; an impression. It wasn't taken from
the Bible.
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[Waggles]

Sad Friday??
Jesus was crucified on the Wednesday ( the middle of the 7 day week) and entombed by sunset so as to be three days in the earth.
Matthew 12:40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

 

[GodB4Us]

Incidentally, Jesus' mom became one of his faithful followers.

• Acts 1:6-14 . . So when they met together, they asked him: Lord, are you at this
time going to restore the kingdom to Israel? He said to them: It is not for you to
know the times or dates the Father has set by His own authority. But you will
receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in
Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. After he said
this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

. . .They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two
men dressed in white stood beside them. Men of Galilee --they said --why do you
stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you
into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.

. . .Then they returned to Jerusalem from the hill called the Mount of Olives, a
Sabbath day's walk from the city. When they arrived, they went upstairs to the
room where they were staying. Those present were Peter, John, James and
Andrew; Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew; James son of Alphaeus and
Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. They all joined together constantly in
prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers.

I think we can safely posit that later, when the flames of God alighted on the group,
Jesus' mom was included.

• Acts 2:1-4 . .When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one
place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and
filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be
tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were
filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled
them.

FYI: There's a sculpture in Rome-- called The Pieta --depicting Jesus' mom cradling
his lifeless body in her lap. The scene is a fake; an impression. It wasn't taken from
the Bible.
_

I am sure Jesus's Mom became one of His followers and may have been in the upper room with them at Pentecost, but by Paul's words, it is hard to say that Mary & the women spoke in tongues too.

I know God can use women in outreach ministry which in all respect, is what was happening on the day of Pentecost, as this was not happening in an assembly as if in a church even though the church was born that day, but this was being done towards devout Jews from all nations under the heaven, I have to wonder if God would manifest tongues in the women when the men shall do, because of them being devout Jews that the word of God should come from men first.

1 Timothy 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Devout Jews would know about this sin because of Adam did harken unto woman for the word of God when Adam knew better hearing the word of God first from God Himself.

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. 17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Some may think this is punishing women for why they are to be silent and not suffer any to usurp authority over a man nor to teach, but it is really about man harkening unto the woman for the word of God. There was a prophet Deborah that God had raised up that spoke to the people in outreach ministry and not in the Temple. But this was done because no man was deem fit to serve God as a prophet. But at Pentecost, there were many men and because the audience were devout Jews, I seriously doubt Mary & the women were speaking in tongues on the day of Pentecost.

But again, this can be seen as outreach ministry and so maybe God did it that way because of this prophesy in Joel.

Joel 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the Lord your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. 28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come. 32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.

And Peter did refer to that prophesy in Joel on hat day of Pentecost and so maybe in that, the devout Jews would not be offended.

Acts 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

I understand that one can posit that Mary & the women may have spoken in tongues too but I reckon I will know for sure what had happened that day when I meet the Lord face to face. As it is, I cannot say one way or another.

1 Corinthians 12:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

 

[B-A-C]

Acts 1:13; When they had entered the city, they went up to the upper room where they were staying; that is, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James.
Acts 1:14; These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.
Acts 1:15; At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty persons was there together), and said,
Acts 1:16; "Brethren, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit foretold by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus.

Why would anyone doubt Mary was part of the first day of Pentecost? She was one of the 120 people in the upper room. The Bible specifically names her there.

By the way there were at least three "day's of Pentecost" mentioned in the Bible. It was likely an annual thing to replace passover.

Acts 2:1; When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place.

Acts 20:16; For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus so that he would not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hurrying to be in Jerusalem, if possible, on the day of Pentecost.

This could not have been the day of Pentecost in Acts 2. Paul wasn't even a Christian yet at that time, he was still persecuting Christians.

1Cor 16:8; But I will remain in Ephesus until Pentecost;

In Acts 20, Paul is sailing past Ephesus, in 1Corinthians, Paul is staying at Ephesus. Likely two different events.

Also it would have been at least 14 years later.

2Cor 12:2; I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a man was caught up to the third heaven.

 

[B-A-C]

Sad Friday... Good Friday... Maundy-Thursday.
All these days are not the day Jesus was crucified. It was have had to have been Wednesday in order for Him
to be in the grave at least 3 days.

All 4 gospels say He was risen early Sunday morning. Lets say about 6am.
24 hours previous would be Saturday at 6am.
48 hours previous would be Friday at 6am.
72 hours previous would be Thursday at 6am.
The problem is... Jesus didn't die until the 9th hour of the day ( about 3pm) Matt 27:46; Mark 15:34; Luke 23:44; )
and He wasn't put into the tomb until sometime (several hours) after this.

So it would have had to be on Wednesday.

 

[GodB4Us]

Why would anyone doubt Mary was part of the first day of Pentecost? She was one of the 120 people in the upper room. The Bible specifically names her there.

One can posit that she was there but scripture does not say directly that she was. It is an assumption. An educated guess. It sure looks that way, but I will know for sure when we know everything thanks to Jesus Christ when we get to Heaven.

When Jesus appeared to His disciples and gave them the Holy Ghost in John 20:22, it was later explained that Thomas was not among those disciples, and yet if that was not written, readers would very well assumed that all of the remaining disciples were there.

So I cannot say for sure that she was there with the other women, let alone if she was there, that she spoke in tongues too, even though the prophesy from Joel would seem to include her on that day of Pentecost, but I don't really know.

 

[B-A-C]

One can posit that she was there but scripture does not say directly that she was.

I would have to disagree, personally.

Act 1:13-15 When they had entered the city, they went up to the upper room where they were staying; that is, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James.
These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.
At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty persons was there together), and said,

they went up to the upper room... along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus.

Acts 2:3; And there appeared to them tongues as of fire distributing themselves, and they rested on each one of them.

It seems the Holy came on "each one" (everyone) who was in the upper room.

 

[GodB4Us]

I would have to disagree, personally.

Act 1:13-15 When they had entered the city, they went up to the upper room where they were staying; that is, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James.
These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.
At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty persons was there together), and said,

they went up to the upper room... along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus.

Acts 2:3; And there appeared to them tongues as of fire distributing themselves, and they rested on each one of them.

It seems the Holy came on "each one" (everyone) who was in the upper room.

I would say this verse below would make a solid case for it.

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

In relation to this reference earlier;

Acts 1:12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey. 13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. 14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

It sure looks that way. Don't know why Luke did not share more about that event other than what Peter had said, but one can infer from the prophesy in Joel that the women did prophesy also, but then again, Peter also cited this from Joel;

19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

Sounds like the day of the crucifixion about that unexplained 3 hours of darkness, but that is referring to what had happened. So could the prophesy refers to future events of women prophesying in outreach ministry which is really what they were doing at Pentecost? I would say so, but can I prove it by scripture? Not really. Scripture can support that posit, but I don't understand why there are not any scripture testifying to that actuality on that day.

 

[Rhema]

If any one wonders if the Jews were to blame for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, Jesus said this; John 10:17

Yet John places the crucifixion on a different day than that proclaimed in Matthew, Mark, and Luke.

I would be reluctant to say that Peter, under the influence and direction of the Holy Ghost, lied here:

(Acts 2:22-23 KJV) Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Him, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:​

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

FYI: There's a sculpture in Rome-- called The Pieta --depicting Jesus' mom cradling
his lifeless body in her lap. The scene is a fake; an impression. It wasn't taken from
the Bible.

I believe that would fall under the auspices of artistic license.

Rhema
Not everything is meant to be history.

 

[GodB4Us]

Yet John places the crucifixion on a different day than that proclaimed in Matthew, Mark, and Luke.

I would be reluctant to say that Peter, under the influence and direction of the Holy Ghost, lied here:

(Acts 2:22-23 KJV) Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Him, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:​

Rhema

That is the KJV 1900 version. And so Peter did not lie when we are using the KJV & not the KJV 1900 so you were right to be reluctant.

Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: KJV

Obviously the devout Jews from all nations were there in Jerusalem to partake of the annual Passover event must have been part of the mob that had crucified Jesus in unbelief for why they were pricked in their hearts for being a part of.

As for the taking of His life, Jesus could have escaped if He had wanted to because several times in scripture, He had escaped stoning by the Jews for His claims to be God. John 8:56-59 & John 10:28-39

So that is why everything that had happened was by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God that He did indeed lay His life down as a ransom for many, allowing the Jews to crucify Him.

John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

Also John did not place the crucifixion on a different day than the gospel of Matthew Luke & John when His resurrection was on the first day of the week same as the other gospels.

John 20:1The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.....

19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

So if your misunderstanding is because of this verse;

John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

That is referring to the annual sabbath; the Passover event, and not the weekly sabbath. The annual sabbath, the first & seventh day of the 7 days of unleavened bread that follows the Passover day which is the 14th, does not always fall on the weekly sabbath of the Jewish calendar.

Leviticus 23:4 These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. 5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord's passover. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. 7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. 8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

So the 3 days & 3 nights in the earth as referring to the sign of Jonah have been fulfilled albeit not clearly proven by scripture other than that all the gospels placed His resurrection on the first day of the week.

 

[Rhema]

Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: KJV

Yeah... people don't talk that way. Your "yellow" highlighted text was added in at a later date by some Scribe/Priest/Theologian who freaked out. (And this had nothing to do with KJV1900 anything...)

Obviously the devout Jews from all nations were there in Jerusalem to partake of the annual Passover event must have been part of the mob that had crucified Jesus in unbelief for why they were pricked in their hearts for being a part of.

Make up your mind. Did the Jews crucify Jesus or not?

Also John did not place the crucifixion on a different day than the gospel of Matthew Luke & John when His resurrection was on the first day of the week same as the other gospels.

You seem very sure, when being so very wrong.

The question I would first ask.... And I will go no further if you play avoidance games...

Did Jesus eat the Passover meal with his disciples?​

Thanks
Rhema

 

[GodB4Us]

Yeah... people don't talk that way. Your "yellow" highlighted text was added in at a later date by some Scribe/Priest/Theologian who freaked out. (And this had nothing to do with KJV1900 anything...)

Funny how you can't prove that.

Make up your mind. Did the Jews crucify Jesus or not?

Jesus allowed them to crucify Him for why His word is true that no man took away His life.

You seem very sure, when being so very wrong.

Like your claim of the added words to the KJV?

The question I would first ask.... And I will go no further if you play avoidance games...

Did Jesus eat the Passover meal with his disciples?​

Thanks
Rhema

On the 14th day, yes, but the coming 15th day which starts at evening as all Jewish day starts at evening and ends at evening per each creation day in Genesis, the 7 days of the unleavened bread was also considered in association with the Passover event where the 15th day is the first day of the 7 days of unleavened bread that the Jews are not allowed to do any work in like the weekly sabbath and also on the 7th day but the annual sabbaths does not always fall on the weekly sabbath.

Passover 14 th day. You can check the Jewish calendars that it does not always fall on the same day of the week every year.

The seven days of unleavened bread starts on 15th day where it is an annual sabbath of no work and on the 7th day of the 7 days of unleavened bread was also to be the annual sabbath.

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Did Jesus eat the Passover meal with his disciples?

The Matthew account.
Mat 26:17 Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?"
Mat 26:18 And He said, "Go into the city to a certain man, and say to him, 'The Teacher says, "My time is near; I am to keep the Passover at your house with My disciples."'"
Mat 26:19 The disciples did as Jesus had directed them; and they prepared the Passover.
Mat 26:20 Now when evening came, Jesus was reclining at the table with the twelve disciples.
Mat 26:21 As they were eating, He said, "Truly I say to you that one of you will betray Me."
Mat 26:22 Being deeply grieved, they each one began to say to Him, "Surely not I, Lord?"
Mat 26:23 And He answered, "He who dipped his hand with Me in the bowl is the one who will betray Me.
Mat 26:24 "The Son of Man is to go, just as it is written of Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born."
Mat 26:25 And Judas, who was betraying Him, said, "Surely it is not I, Rabbi?" Jesus *said to him, "You have said it yourself."

The Mark account.
Mar 14:12 On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was being sacrificed, His disciples *said to Him, "Where do You want us to go and prepare for You to eat the Passover?"
Mar 14:13 And He *sent two of His disciples and *said to them, "Go into the city, and a man will meet you carrying a pitcher of water; follow him;
Mar 14:14 and wherever he enters, say to the owner of the house, 'The Teacher says, "Where is My guest room in which I may eat the Passover with My disciples?"'
Mar 14:15 "And he himself will show you a large upper room furnished and ready; prepare for us there."
Mar 14:16 The disciples went out and came to the city, and found it just as He had told them; and they prepared the Passover.
Mar 14:17 When it was evening He *came with the twelve.
Mar 14:18 As they were reclining at the table and eating, Jesus said, "Truly I say to you that one of you will betray Me—one who is eating with Me."
Mar 14:19 They began to be grieved and to say to Him one by one, "Surely not I?"
Mar 14:20 And He said to them, "It is one of the twelve, one who dips with Me in the bowl.
Mar 14:21 "For the Son of Man is to go just as it is written of Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born."

The Luke account
Luk 22:7 Then came the first day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed.
Luk 22:8 And Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, "Go and prepare the Passover for us, so that we may eat it."
Luk 22:9 They said to Him, "Where do You want us to prepare it?"
Luk 22:10 And He said to them, "When you have entered the city, a man will meet you carrying a pitcher of water; follow him into the house that he enters.
Luk 22:11 "And you shall say to the owner of the house, 'The Teacher says to you, "Where is the guest room in which I may eat the Passover with My disciples?"'
Luk 22:12 "And he will show you a large, furnished upper room; prepare it there."
Luk 22:13 And they left and found everything just as He had told them; and they prepared the Passover.
Luk 22:14 When the hour had come, He reclined at the table, and the apostles with Him.
Luk 22:15 And He said to them, "I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;
Luk 22:16 for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God."
Luk 22:17 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, "Take this and share it among yourselves;
Luk 22:18 for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes."
Luk 22:19 And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me."
Luk 22:20 And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.
Luk 22:21 "But behold, the hand of the one betraying Me is with Mine on the table.
Luk 22:22 "For indeed, the Son of Man is going as it has been determined; but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!"
Luk 22:23 And they began to discuss among themselves which one of them it might be who was going to do this thing.

The John account
Joh 13:1 Now before the Feast of the Passover, Jesus knowing that His hour had come that He would depart out of this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.
Joh 13:2 During supper, the devil having already put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, to betray Him,
Joh 13:3 Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come forth from God and was going back to God,
Joh 13:4 *got up from supper, and *laid aside His garments; and taking a towel, He girded Himself.
Joh 13:5 Then He *poured water into the basin, and began to wash the disciples' feet and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded.
Joh 13:6 So He *came to Simon Peter. He *said to Him, "Lord, do You wash my feet?"
Joh 13:7 Jesus answered and said to him, "What I do you do not realize now, but you will understand hereafter."
Joh 13:8 Peter *said to Him, "Never shall You wash my feet!" Jesus answered him, "If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me."
Joh 13:9 Simon Peter *said to Him, "Lord, then wash not only my feet, but also my hands and my head."
Joh 13:10 Jesus *said to him, "He who has bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you."
Joh 13:11 For He knew the one who was betraying Him; for this reason He said, "Not all of you are clean."
Joh 13:12 So when He had washed their feet, and taken His garments and reclined at the table again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you?
Joh 13:13 "You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for so I am.
Joh 13:14 "If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.
Joh 13:15 "For I gave you an example that you also should do as I did to you.
Joh 13:16 "Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.
Joh 13:17 "If you know these things, you are blessed if you do them.
Joh 13:18 "I do not speak of all of you. I know the ones I have chosen; but it is that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'HE WHO EATS MY BREAD HAS LIFTED UP HIS HEEL AGAINST ME.'
Joh 13:19 "From now on I am telling you before it comes to pass, so that when it does occur, you may believe that I am He.
Joh 13:20 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me."
One of You Will Betray Me
Joh 13:21 When Jesus had said this, He became troubled in spirit, and testified and said, "Truly, truly, I say to you, that one of you will betray Me."
Joh 13:22 The disciples began looking at one another, at a loss to know of which one He was speaking.
Joh 13:23 There was reclining on Jesus' bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved.
Joh 13:24 So Simon Peter *gestured to him, and *said to him, "Tell us who it is of whom He is speaking."
Joh 13:25 He, leaning back thus on Jesus' bosom, *said to Him, "Lord, who is it?"
Joh 13:26 Jesus then *answered, "That is the one for whom I shall dip the morsel and give it to him." So when He had dipped the morsel, He *took and *gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.
Joh 13:27 After the morsel, Satan then entered into him. Therefore Jesus *said to him, "What you do, do quickly."
Joh 13:28 Now no one of those reclining at the table knew for what purpose He had said this to him.

Joh 13:29 For some were supposing, because Judas had the money box, that Jesus was saying to him, "Buy the things we have need of for the feast"; or else, that he should give something to the poor.
Joh 13:30 So after receiving the morsel he went out immediately; and it was night.

 

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The Matthew account.
Mat 26:17 Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?"
Mat 26:18 And He said, "Go into the city to a certain man, and say to him, 'The Teacher says, "My time is near; I am to keep the Passover at your house with My disciples."'"
Mat 26:19 The disciples did as Jesus had directed them; and they prepared the Passover.
Mat 26:20 Now when evening came, Jesus was reclining at the table with the twelve disciples.
Mat 26:21 As they were eating, He said, "Truly I say to you that one of you will betray Me."
Mat 26:22 Being deeply grieved, they each one began to say to Him, "Surely not I, Lord?"
Mat 26:23 And He answered, "He who dipped his hand with Me in the bowl is the one who will betray Me.
Mat 26:24 "The Son of Man is to go, just as it is written of Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born."
Mat 26:25 And Judas, who was betraying Him, said, "Surely it is not I, Rabbi?" Jesus *said to him, "You have said it yourself."

The Mark account.
Mar 14:12 On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was being sacrificed, His disciples *said to Him, "Where do You want us to go and prepare for You to eat the Passover?"
Mar 14:13 And He *sent two of His disciples and *said to them, "Go into the city, and a man will meet you carrying a pitcher of water; follow him;
Mar 14:14 and wherever he enters, say to the owner of the house, 'The Teacher says, "Where is My guest room in which I may eat the Passover with My disciples?"'
Mar 14:15 "And he himself will show you a large upper room furnished and ready; prepare for us there."
Mar 14:16 The disciples went out and came to the city, and found it just as He had told them; and they prepared the Passover.
Mar 14:17 When it was evening He *came with the twelve.
Mar 14:18 As they were reclining at the table and eating, Jesus said, "Truly I say to you that one of you will betray Me—one who is eating with Me."
Mar 14:19 They began to be grieved and to say to Him one by one, "Surely not I?"
Mar 14:20 And He said to them, "It is one of the twelve, one who dips with Me in the bowl.
Mar 14:21 "For the Son of Man is to go just as it is written of Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born."

The Luke account
Luk 22:7 Then came the first day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed.
Luk 22:8 And Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, "Go and prepare the Passover for us, so that we may eat it."
Luk 22:9 They said to Him, "Where do You want us to prepare it?"
Luk 22:10 And He said to them, "When you have entered the city, a man will meet you carrying a pitcher of water; follow him into the house that he enters.
Luk 22:11 "And you shall say to the owner of the house, 'The Teacher says to you, "Where is the guest room in which I may eat the Passover with My disciples?"'
Luk 22:12 "And he will show you a large, furnished upper room; prepare it there."
Luk 22:13 And they left and found everything just as He had told them; and they prepared the Passover.
Luk 22:14 When the hour had come, He reclined at the table, and the apostles with Him.
Luk 22:15 And He said to them, "I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;
Luk 22:16 for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God."
Luk 22:17 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, "Take this and share it among yourselves;
Luk 22:18 for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes."
Luk 22:19 And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me."
Luk 22:20 And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.
Luk 22:21 "But behold, the hand of the one betraying Me is with Mine on the table.
Luk 22:22 "For indeed, the Son of Man is going as it has been determined; but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!"
Luk 22:23 And they began to discuss among themselves which one of them it might be who was going to do this thing.

The John account
Joh 13:1 Now before the Feast of the Passover, Jesus knowing that His hour had come that He would depart out of this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.
Joh 13:2 During supper, the devil having already put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, to betray Him,
Joh 13:3 Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come forth from God and was going back to God,
Joh 13:4 *got up from supper, and *laid aside His garments; and taking a towel, He girded Himself.
Joh 13:5 Then He *poured water into the basin, and began to wash the disciples' feet and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded.
Joh 13:6 So He *came to Simon Peter. He *said to Him, "Lord, do You wash my feet?"
Joh 13:7 Jesus answered and said to him, "What I do you do not realize now, but you will understand hereafter."
Joh 13:8 Peter *said to Him, "Never shall You wash my feet!" Jesus answered him, "If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me."
Joh 13:9 Simon Peter *said to Him, "Lord, then wash not only my feet, but also my hands and my head."
Joh 13:10 Jesus *said to him, "He who has bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you."
Joh 13:11 For He knew the one who was betraying Him; for this reason He said, "Not all of you are clean."
Joh 13:12 So when He had washed their feet, and taken His garments and reclined at the table again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you?
Joh 13:13 "You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for so I am.
Joh 13:14 "If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.
Joh 13:15 "For I gave you an example that you also should do as I did to you.
Joh 13:16 "Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.
Joh 13:17 "If you know these things, you are blessed if you do them.
Joh 13:18 "I do not speak of all of you. I know the ones I have chosen; but it is that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'HE WHO EATS MY BREAD HAS LIFTED UP HIS HEEL AGAINST ME.'
Joh 13:19 "From now on I am telling you before it comes to pass, so that when it does occur, you may believe that I am He.
Joh 13:20 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me."
One of You Will Betray Me
Joh 13:21 When Jesus had said this, He became troubled in spirit, and testified and said, "Truly, truly, I say to you, that one of you will betray Me."
Joh 13:22 The disciples began looking at one another, at a loss to know of which one He was speaking.
Joh 13:23 There was reclining on Jesus' bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved.
Joh 13:24 So Simon Peter *gestured to him, and *said to him, "Tell us who it is of whom He is speaking."
Joh 13:25 He, leaning back thus on Jesus' bosom, *said to Him, "Lord, who is it?"
Joh 13:26 Jesus then *answered, "That is the one for whom I shall dip the morsel and give it to him." So when He had dipped the morsel, He *took and *gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.
Joh 13:27 After the morsel, Satan then entered into him. Therefore Jesus *said to him, "What you do, do quickly."
Joh 13:28 Now no one of those reclining at the table knew for what purpose He had said this to him.

Joh 13:29 For some were supposing, because Judas had the money box, that Jesus was saying to him, "Buy the things we have need of for the feast"; or else, that he should give something to the poor.
Joh 13:30 So after receiving the morsel he went out immediately; and it was night.

For clarity, on the 14th day of the Passover event where they eat the lamb, it is also the "first" day of the unleavened bread, but it is not counted as with the 7 days of the unleavened bread that follows the 14th day of Passover because on those 7 days of the unleavened bread, the lamb is not eaten. So in actuality, there are 8 days of the unleavened bread but the first day is not counted with the 7 days of the unleavened bread because only the lamb is eaten on the 14th Passover day; the first day of the unleavened bread. The 7 days of the unleavened bread that follows the 14th day is when only the unleavened bread is eaten.

Thanks for sharing.

 

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Jesus ate his Passover a day ahead of the Jews.

Jesus' Passover

If we're not careful to reckon with those two Passovers out of sync with each other,
we are sure to get confused when attempting a chronology of crucifixion week.
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Sedar is on the 14th
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