Sometime in the Future-70 week

[TheWordIsOne]

In Daniel 11:37-39 (NKJV) He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor honor women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all.
But in their place, he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things.
Thus, he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many and divide the land for gain.

The Peace Treaty between Palestine and Israel
After (3 ½ years) then begins a jihad, is to make war, it is not a “holy war.
The word "jihad" means to "struggle" or "striving" (in the way of God or to make way) to work for a noble cause with determination; it does not mean "holy war" (war in Arabic is harb and holy is muqadassa)
A "jihad” follows a caliphate, an Arabic word khalifa meaning “successor “khalifa.”

After seven years, of tribulation (3 ½ years) a war in the middle (3 ½ years) a “cease-fire".
A Hudna, But it will last for three and half years, But in the middle of the week (3 ½ years) He, (Satan) shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. this means Israel will build the third temple and will restart sacrificing for their atonement, then again He, (Satan) shall bring all sacrificing to an end, Satan sits in the third temple of God saying I am!

this is between Islam Palestine and Israel, Isaiah 63: 18; Daniel 8: 13; Zechariah 12: 3.
They will fall by the edge of the sword.

Islamic has its traditions in Mecca, as the Vatican has theirs they have something in common

from the A "jihad” follows a caliphate, the Ant-Christ will manifest the Quran show us who is the Ant-Christ
The Ant-Christ does not have a name but a title a symbol
I have studied Islamic traditions and compared them with the word of God, this tells me the future

And on the wing of abomination shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”

Revelation 13:5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 1260 days (3 ½ years)

 

[B-A-C]

This is all fine, except that forty two months, 1260 days, and a time - times - half a time ( 3 1/2 years ) none of these equals 70 weeks.
It's fairly difficult to tie 'Jacob's troubles' to the end-times schedule of events.

 

[Hekuran]

Any interpretation of bible prophecy that depends on a third temple is on very shaky ground.

The day of Pentecost at the beginning of the book of acts makes it abundantly clear that the presence of God in the world rests no longer in a building, but in the spirit filled believers.

Is god going to reverse this and return to inhabiting a building?

 

[lentz]

This is all fine, except that forty two months, 1260 days, and a time - times - half a time ( 3 1/2 years ) none of these equals 70 weeks.
It's fairly difficult to tie 'Jacob's troubles' to the end-times schedule of events.

69 weeks has passed already

 

[B-A-C]

The day of Pentecost at the beginning of the book of acts makes it abundantly clear that the presence of God in the world rests no longer in a building, but in the spirit filled believers.

Is god going to reverse this and return to inhabiting a building?

The temple isn't built for God ( that will be it's intended purpose by the builders ) it will be built so the beast can perform sacrifices.
But keep in mind that Jews ( who follow Judaism ) don't believe in the New testament anyway, so Acts and Pentecost wouldn't really apply to them as followers of Judaism.

Matt 24:15; "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
Mark 13:14; "But when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION standing where it should not be (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.

"where it should not be" - it seems something is happening here, that should not be happening. Jesus says the abomination of desolation was spoken of by Daniel.
What is this abomination of desolation?

Dan 11:31; "Forces from him will arise, desecrate the sanctuary fortress, and do away with the regular sacrifice. And they will set up the abomination of desolation.
Dan 12:11; "From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

2Thes 2:3; Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,
2Thes 2:4; who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

The Bible doesn't tell us exactly what the abomination of desolation is/was/will be. But we know a few things about it. It has to do with sacrifice ( Dan 11:31; )
it will last for 3 1/2 years ( Dan 12:11; ) and it will happen while the beast ( the man of lawlessness - 2Thes 2:3; ) sits on the throne in the temple.

Jewish tradition says that Antiochus Epiphanes ( either the III or the IV depending on which history you read ) a Babylonian ruler who desecrated the temple in Jerusalem

Abomination of desolation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

...says he he sacrificed swine there ( the most unclean animal in Judaism ).

 

[B-A-C]

69 weeks has passed already

So some say...

Dan 9:24; "Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.
Dan 9:25; "So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress.
Dan 9:26; "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27; "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."

In that case, the Messiah has already been "cut off" ( Dan 9:26; ) and Jerusalem and the ( 3rd ) temple has already been destroyed. ( by a flood no less )

 

[B-A-C]

Is god going to reverse this and return to inhabiting a building?

This is a subject of much debate. Isn't everything

Rev 21:2; And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:22; I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
Rev 21:23; And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb.
Rev 21:24; The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.

Rev 22:1; Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb,
Rev 22:2; in the middle of its street. On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Rev 22:3; There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him;
Rev 22:4; they will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.

 

[lentz]

So some say...

Dan 9:24; "Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.
Dan 9:25; "So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress.
Dan 9:26; "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27; "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."

In that case, the Messiah has already been "cut off" ( Dan 9:26; ) and Jerusalem and the ( 3rd ) temple has already been destroyed.

The only way I see it makes sense,and am probably wrong,the church age is between 69 and 70th weeks. When church age ends then starts the 70th(tribulation)

 

[TheWordIsOne]

This is all fine, except that forty two months, 1260 days, and a time - times - half a time ( 3 1/2 years ) none of these equals 70 weeks.
It's fairly difficult to tie 'Jacob's troubles' to the end-times schedule of events.

ok genius so what are 70 weeks of Daniel

 

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[lentz]

So some say...

Dan 9:24; "Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.
Dan 9:25; "So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress.
Dan 9:26; "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27; "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."

In that case, the Messiah has already been "cut off" ( Dan 9:26; ) and Jerusalem and the ( 3rd ) temple has already been destroyed. ( by a flood no less )

If Christ was crucified and cut off week 62,that would leave 8 weeks to go. 70 A.D could be another week,the desolation Daniel spoke of.
Most of Daniel has been fulfilled already.
If memory serves,only the last chapter is left. But I could be wrong

 

[lentz]

 

[ChristianConsFurryGuy]

In Daniel 11:37-39 (NKJV) He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor honor women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all.
But in their place, he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things.
Thus, he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many and divide the land for gain.

The Peace Treaty between Palestine and Israel
After (3 ½ years) then begins a jihad, is to make war, it is not a “holy war.
The word "jihad" means to "struggle" or "striving" (in the way of God or to make way) to work for a noble cause with determination; it does not mean "holy war" (war in Arabic is harb and holy is muqadassa)
A "jihad” follows a caliphate, an Arabic word khalifa meaning “successor “khalifa.”

After seven years, of tribulation (3 ½ years) a war in the middle (3 ½ years) a “cease-fire".
A Hudna, But it will last for three and half years, But in the middle of the week (3 ½ years) He, (Satan) shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. this means Israel will build the third temple and will restart sacrificing for their atonement, then again He, (Satan) shall bring all sacrificing to an end, Satan sits in the third temple of God saying I am!

this is between Islam Palestine and Israel, Isaiah 63: 18; Daniel 8: 13; Zechariah 12: 3.
They will fall by the edge of the sword.

Islamic has its traditions in Mecca, as the Vatican has theirs they have something in common

from the A "jihad” follows a caliphate, the Ant-Christ will manifest the Quran show us who is the Ant-Christ
The Ant-Christ does not have a name but a title a symbol
I have studied Islamic traditions and compared them with the word of God, this tells me the future

And on the wing of abomination shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”

Revelation 13:5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 1260 days (3 ½ years)

Please be careful about using Islam as part of your study. From what I've seen, Islam is a false doctrine and contrary to the word of God.

 

[ChristianConsFurryGuy]

I’ve been continuing my study of the 70 weeks prophecy found in Daniel 9: 24-26:

“Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.” (Daniel 9: 24-26 KJV)

So when Daniel writes about “weeks” in this, It refers to the word “heptad” which is used to identify years, not days. So when the prophecy speaks of 70 weeks of years, you get 490 years. This is what we are thinking here.

Now, the next verse that the Angel specifically informs Daniel that from the time “to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one shall be 7 weeks, three score (or 60 weeks) and 2 weeks. This comes up with 69 weeks of years or 483 years.

First, we need to establish when this verse began. Many scholars equate this prophecy to Ezra to King Cyrus’ proclamation to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem and restore worship to the captive Jews This was during his reign believed to be around 550bc to 529bc [Cyrus the Great]. There’s even a prophecy in the book of Isaiah 44:28 that claims that Cyrus, who is spoken of BY NAME would decree the temple and city of Jerusalem be rebuilt:

“That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd,

and shall perform all my pleasure:

even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built;

and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.” (Isaiah 44:28 KJV)

However, another Persian King, Artaxerxes, who reigned later in 465bc through 425bc had also issued a decree to restore the walls and foundation of Jerusalem. [Artaxerxes I] This is found in Nehemiah chapter 2.

The prophecy of Daniel specifically says “the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.“ Both Ezra and Nehemiah had to deal with said troublous times in the form of foreign nations and even their fellow Jews. Yet only Nehemiah was to work on the wall, while Ezra was responsible for rebuilding the temple nearly a century earlier. Daniel’s prophecy emphasizes only the wall and the streets, thus we can determine by the plain text that this prophecy would start with Nehemiah, not Ezra.

Now that we have established that, let’s look into finding the specific date. According to archaeologists, King Artaxerxes I reigned from 465-425bc. Nehemiah 2 specifies that it was during the 20th reign of this king that he commissioned Nehemiah to go to Jerusalem and begin work on repairing the walls and city. So the 20th year of his reign should be 445bc, right?

Actually, that’s a bit off. According to experts, Artaxerxes’ reign began after the death of his father Xerxes in 465bc. According to common tradition among the Persians, a ruler’s reign or regal year had to be established on the first month of the next year. That means that while Artaxerxes began in 465bc, his reign actually began in 464bc. [Artaxerxes Timeline] That puts his 20th year in Nehemiah 2 at 444bc!

The next factor is the way we measure the years in Daniel’s prophecy. By default, we automatically assume to use the common Gregorian calendar, which has an average of 365.25 days in a year. What we are forgetting is that Daniel would be using a calendar based off of lunar cycles, like his own Jewish calendar. This varies from year to year, but experts average it out to 360 days in a year.

This is a vital hint into how we do the math. So we take 69 weeks of years which 483 years and multiply it by 360 days of the Jewish calendar:

(69 x 7) = 483 years

483 years x 360 days = 173,880 days

365.25 days in the modern calendar / 173,880 days = 476.06 years.

So instead of using 483 years, we actually use 476 years to chart these 69 heptads!

So if we go with Artaxerxes 20th year, minus the ascension year, we have 444bc

444 – 476 = 32


That puts the end date at 32AD! According to archaeologists and historians, both secular and theological, Jesus was crucified around 33AD.

Now, I know what you’re thinking: But its off a year. There’s still one more factor we forgot to put in.

The current system of BC and AD in documenting history does not allow for there to be a year 0. Instead it goes directly from 1BC to 1AD. Therefore we have to add a year to this to compensate.

…and what do we get then? 33AD right on the spot!

That coincides with the believed year that Jesus Christ died on the cross during Passover. At this point, the Messiah is ‘cut off’ from his people, and thus ushers in the ‘age of gentiles’, when the Gospel is preached among the rest of the world and the Church is established. This is where the final week comes in, when the age of the Gentiles finally end with the rapture of the church, and that brings about the final 7 week period of the Tribulation. It will be here that the Jews will face their greatest challenge, but also see the truth of their God and his Messiah, whom they had rejected.

In conclusion, while I am not a theologian or a mathematician, I do consider myself somewhat smart. I have the mind where I can look for research documents, perform intermediate math, and study history. I’m no expert and I’m not saying that this is completely accurate. Many wiser and smarter folk might be able to counter my study with their own thoughts. That’s fine. The thing is that I am a student, and my discoveries appear to be valid and explain a great deal about this prophecy. It is based on historical evidence given by other intellectuals. Yet my discoveries into dating and math does appear to make the case that the prophecy was fulfilled partially. That leaves the last week still to deal with in the future. It will be then that we can find out whether or not if what I’ve written may be valid or a worthwhile attempt. History will be my judge.

Works Cited

Frye, Richard N.. “Cyrus the Great”. Encyclopedia Britannica, 10 Apr. 2020, Cyrus the Great | Biography & Facts. Accessed 24 May 2021.

Britannica, The Editors of Encyclopaedia. “Artaxerxes I”. Encyclopedia Britannica, 3 Apr. 2020, Artaxerxes I | Persian Empire, Achaemenid Dynasty, Reformer. Accessed 24 May 2021.


“Artaxerxes I Timeline.” Theos-Sphragis.info, theos-sphragis.info/artaxerxes_timeline.html. Accessed 24 May 2021.

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[TheWordIsOne]

Please be careful about using Islam as part of your study. From what I've seen, Islam is a false doctrine and contrary to the world of God

Please be careful about using Islam as part of your study. From what I've seen, Islam is a false doctrine and contrary to the word of God.

Greetings
I understand, that what you read is a study I did even before this war, what you see in the near future, this war shows me the events that will play out before your eyes, and this is not false this is Revelation 1: 3.
compare Israel with Islam, but you don't understand what an antichrist.
study their Islamic tradition, I give this word Ishmael
what is contrary to the Lord is lack of knowledge, for the Lord departs knowledge to those who seek Matthew 11: 11.
Matthew 6: 33.

Time

the problem of the world will be burned by the sand of time​

Jude 1: 17-18 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
John 16: 25; Romans 1: 13; Matthew 28: 20; 2 Timothy 1: 16; Acts 2: 17.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

This is all fine, except that forty two months, 1260 days, and a time - times - half a time ( 3 1/2 years ) none of these equals 70 weeks.
It's fairly difficult to tie 'Jacob's troubles' to the end-times schedule of events.

greetings
yes the puzzle of this, is within the 70s weeks of Daniel because it's a biblical calendar, corresponding with a divine one

Earth is now the center of attention

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Greetings
the problem of the world will be burned by the sand of time, as time gets closer the sand as in an hourglass, men burn the time limit within Grace on earth of course the precise time, something old ends, and something new begins, within the will of the Lord

 

[NoHype]

Any interpretation of bible prophecy that depends on a third temple is on very shaky ground.

I Strongly disagree with that, and so does God's Word.

The specific event Lord Jesus warned about for the end in Matthew 24:15 linked with the coming time of "great tribulation" is the coming Antichrist to Jerusalem to place an IDOL abomination inside a standing Jewish temple. And it has to be a Jewish built temple, because that is what the Daniel 11 prophecy is about which Jesus quoted for the end of this world.

Today's ultra-orthodox Jews in the state of Israel already have the materials ready and even the cornerstone cut and ready to be placed upon the temple mount to start the building of the 3rd temple of the Jews.

Zechariah 6 reveals that when Messiah comes, He will build the temple. The orthodox Jews know about that Scripture, and are still expecting Messiah's coming today. They are preparing for it. But we as believers on Jesus Christ are not to fall in that trap God has prepared for those unbelieving Jews, because the first supernatural Messiah that will show up in Jerusalem in our near future will NOT be our Lord Jesus Christ. It will be an imposter that will exalt himself as God, like Apostle Paul taught in 2 Thess.2.