Speech Police

[JerryfromMass]

In our current globalist socialist cultural Marxist clime, those that speak God's truth have been labeled intolerant haters and set on fire via cancel culture. All media platforms (cable, tv, internet, chat rooms, etc) serve mammon and engage in protecting lies and those that are emotionally harmed by the truth, all at the expense of the truth. There is but one truth, and it absolute: God's truth. We know God's truth from HIS word. When Christians use HIS word as our source for truth on matters considered socio or economical or psychologicsl or spiritual, etc, what sometimes follows is straight up censorship and termination - YOU'RE CANCELLED. Feelings and emotions and opinions don't stand a chance against bold, stubborn, factual truths given us by God. And when so-called Christians cower to the worldly out of fear of being CANCELLED, they've just proven they are worldly and not a follower of Christ at all.

Blessings.

 

[PloughBoy]

In our current globalist socialist cultural Marxist clime, those that speak God's truth have been labeled intolerant haters and set on fire via cancel culture. All media platforms (cable, tv, internet, chat rooms, etc) serve mammon and engage in protecting lies and those that are emotionally harmed by the truth, all at the expense of the truth. There is but one truth, and it absolute: God's truth. We know God's truth from HIS word. When Christians use HIS word as our source for truth on matters considered socio or economical or psychologicsl or spiritual, etc, what sometimes follows is straight up censorship and termination - YOU'RE CANCELLED. Feelings and emotions and opinions don't stand a chance against bold, stubborn, factual truths given us by God. And when so-called Christians cower to the worldly out of fear of being CANCELLED, they've just proven they are worldly and not a follower of Christ at all.

Blessings.

What is True Truth, if it is Not Rightly divided or presented in the right way pertaining to the ways of GOD?

New King James Version
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
New American Standard Bible
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a worker who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.
King James Bible
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

And when you do speak The Truth, God promised, this:
(2 Tim. 3)ASV
"Yea, and all that would live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived."

So yes, what you say, i do understand but many do not. For many, "Jesus" is the "Santa Claus' ,"The Easter Bunny" and The "Triune" is "Aladdin's lamp" in The "Develop" and The "Developing" worlds They will not see the light neither do they want the Light, but He will crack the sky and many will still , reject Him and call Him unfair. "For men and women Loves darkness rather than Light" For their deeds Justifies their actions and He will give them what they want!

 

[Christ4Ever]

In our current globalist socialist cultural Marxist clime, those that speak God's truth have been labeled intolerant haters and set on fire via cancel culture. All media platforms (cable, tv, internet, chat rooms, etc) serve mammon and engage in protecting lies and those that are emotionally harmed by the truth, all at the expense of the truth. There is but one truth, and it absolute: God's truth. We know God's truth from HIS word. When Christians use HIS word as our source for truth on matters considered socio or economical or psychologicsl or spiritual, etc, what sometimes follows is straight up censorship and termination - YOU'RE CANCELLED. Feelings and emotions and opinions don't stand a chance against bold, stubborn, factual truths given us by God. And when so-called Christians cower to the worldly out of fear of being CANCELLED, they've just proven they are worldly and not a follower of Christ at all.

Blessings.

Dear Brother,
Please take care how you communicate in open forum. The thread you'd been participating in, in which tempers boiled over has been closed, and is currently being reviewed in moderation.
Don't let those emotions spill over here. One can have a disagreement with others, but how we do so, especially with the words we use amongst brethren is important and can be even more important
and a reflection of who we are in Christ.
If there are specific issues you'd like to do, you are welcome to communicate with me or any of the Staff via Private Message (PM).

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[JerryfromMass]

Dear Brother,
Please take care how you communicate in open forum. The thread you'd been participating in, in which tempers boiled over has been closed, and is currently being reviewed in moderation.
Don't let those emotions spill over here. One can have a disagreement with others, but how we do so, especially with the words we use amongst brethren is important and can be even more important
and a reflection of who we are in Christ.
If there are specific issues you'd like to do, you are welcome to communicate with me or any of the Staff via Private Message (PM).

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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Thank you brother,

Several of my professors thought the tone of my voice a bit bellicose, but they nonetheless understood my passion for the subject. I wonder how many here on this forum, and in other Christ-centered forums as well, would agree to censor Edwards's sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God. Society is becoming more and more sissified by the day, and the ekklesia is in part responsible for letting it.

Thank you for the kind rebuke and the equally kind offer.

Blessings.

 

[twcstp111]

there's a format for how the word is delivered and how it is to be introduced to different audiences,

and if that format is not follow, all you can expect is a bunch of really pissed of people. if you don't really understand what you're preaching and you aren't able to guide others into it before dropping the stumbling stone on them, then you're just killing them.

 

[JerryfromMass]

there's a format for how the word is delivered and how it is to be introduced to different audiences,

and if that format is not follow, all you can expect is a bunch of really pissed of people. if you don't really understand what you're preaching and you aren't able to guide others into it before dropping the stumbling stone on them, then you're just killing them.

The GOOD NEWS must ne offensive to the lost, the backslidden, and the self-righteous. To otherwise sugarcoat the Word of God and coddle the hearer so as not to offend their darkened hearts and sinfulness is as productive as having a sermon during half-priced drinking happy hour at the local strip club.

 

[twcstp111]

The GOOD NEWS must ne offensive to the lost, the backslidden, and the self-righteous. To otherwise sugarcoat the Word of God and coddle the hearer so as not to offend their darkened hearts and sinfulness is as productive as having a sermon during half-priced drinking happy hour at the local strip club.

The Beast from the Earth
…12And this beast exercised all the authority of the first beast and caused the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose mortal wound had been healed. 13And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth, telling them to make an image to the beast that had been wounded by the sword and yet had lived.…


I can't do this. Honestly. What do you are anyone else know so surely that everyone else is a sinner, or lost, or backslidden?

If you start preaching hellfire to sons that had no fathers,
but you leave out the words 'this is where you can find a real father, you who have no father,' or a mother, to those who had not,

How do you expect them to ever come to Jesus or open the scriptures? If you can't invite people in and explain sin properly and how terrible it is, and show them righteousness and the goodness of righteousness, and work them who were missing things or people in their lives that produced stumbling blocks, and if you can't remove those stumbling blocks and heal them properly, then you are not actually helping them at all.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Thank you brother,

Several of my professors thought the tone of my voice a bit bellicose, but they nonetheless understood my passion for the subject. I wonder how many here on this forum, and in other Christ-centered forums as well, would agree to censor Edwards's sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God. Society is becoming more and more sissified by the day, and the ekklesia is in part responsible for letting it.

Thank you for the kind rebuke and the equally kind offer.

Blessings.

Dear Brother,
Typing this not as a Moderator, but as another member, Brother in Christ.

It might be a good thing that we don't have voice then! However, written word choices can also make a big difference on how even contrary issues can be received. If you're not trying to convince/inform another of a thought or point what is the purpose? Hear oneself think maybe? I state this, because the old adage "you catch more bees with honey then with vinegar" fits here. Look at your use above of the word "sissified". What does that mean to you exactly? And in giving that explanation, couldn't you have used that in its place, and still communicated the point?

Too often the obstinance or sensitivity of others can trigger us. Easy to reply in kind, and in so doing erect barriers, instead of bringing them down that even though in the final analysis there is still disagree between you, you are still able to separate in peace. One never knows that in so doing, that later on in retrospect the person may be moved by the Holy Spirit to reconsider your words! Isn't that preferable to just making a point?

I hope this helps with the understanding on where I'm coming from Brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[JerryfromMass]

The Beast from the Earth
…12And this beast exercised all the authority of the first beast and caused the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose mortal wound had been healed. 13And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth, telling them to make an image to the beast that had been wounded by the sword and yet had lived.…


I can't do this. Honestly. What do you are anyone else know so surely that everyone else is a sinner, or lost, or backslidden?

If you start preaching hellfire to sons that had no fathers,
but you leave out the words 'this is where you can find a real father, you who have no father,' or a mother, to those who had not,

How do you expect them to ever come to Jesus or open the scriptures? If you can't invite people in and explain sin properly and how terrible it is, and show them righteousness and the goodness of righteousness, and work them who were missing things or people in their lives that produced stumbling blocks, and if you can't remove those stumbling blocks and heal them properly, then you are not actually helping them at all.

Not everyone wants help out of their sinful lifestyles. Many more will stay in their sins, stay in the dark, simply because they love their sin and can't imagine life without it, no matter how kindly you approach them with the gospel and how gentle you are with them when you preach the Word of God. That's simply the way the human heart is - wicked. God calls all sinners (and all are sinners, you, me, the pope, the prostitute, the brothers moderating this forum) to repentance and faith but only few will come. Some sinners will come to repentance and faith when they are gently handled. Others will come to repentance and faith from hearing a fire and brimstone sermon. In all, it is God that gets the glory for any that repent and believe, for HE knows HIS own, and HE calls them to HIM.

Blessings

 

[JerryfromMass]

Dear Brother,
Typing this not as a Moderator, but as another member, Brother in Christ.

It might be a good thing that we don't have voice then! However, written word choices can also make a big difference on how even contrary issues can be received. If you're not trying to convince/inform another of a thought or point what is the purpose? Hear oneself think maybe? I state this, because the old adage "you catch more bees with honey then with vinegar" fits here. Look at your use above of the word "sissified". What does that mean to you exactly? And in giving that explanation, couldn't you have used that in its place, and still communicated the point?

Too often the obstinance or sensitivity of others can trigger us. Easy to reply in kind, and in so doing erect barriers, instead of bringing them down that even though in the final analysis there is still disagree between you, you are still able to separate in peace. One never knows that in so doing, that later on in retrospect the person may be moved by the Holy Spirit to reconsider your words! Isn't that preferable to just making a point?

I hope this helps with the understanding on where I'm coming from Brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Blessings.

Sissified: effeminate, weak, cowardly. I used sissified because it is a recognized word in the English lexicon to rightly define that which I was referring.

 

[JerryfromMass]

Dear Brother,
Typing this not as a Moderator, but as another member, Brother in Christ.

It might be a good thing that we don't have voice then! However, written word choices can also make a big difference on how even contrary issues can be received. If you're not trying to convince/inform another of a thought or point what is the purpose? Hear oneself think maybe? I state this, because the old adage "you catch more bees with honey then with vinegar" fits here. Look at your use above of the word "sissified". What does that mean to you exactly? And in giving that explanation, couldn't you have used that in its place, and still communicated the point?

Too often the obstinance or sensitivity of others can trigger us. Easy to reply in kind, and in so doing erect barriers, instead of bringing them down that even though in the final analysis there is still disagree between you, you are still able to separate in peace. One never knows that in so doing, that later on in retrospect the person may be moved by the Holy Spirit to reconsider your words! Isn't that preferable to just making a point?

I hope this helps with the understanding on where I'm coming from Brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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<><

Blessings brother,

I do get your point. I will do better to not appear so abrasive in my words - beginning now.

Thank you again for reaching me with truth and love.

Blessings

 

[twcstp111]

Not everyone wants help out of their sinful lifestyles. Many more will stay in their sins, stay in the dark, simply because they love their sin and can't imagine life without it, no matter how kindly you approach them with the gospel and how gentle you are with them when you preach the Word of God. That's simply the way the human heart is - wicked. God calls all sinners (and all are sinners, you, me, the pope, the prostitute, the brothers moderating this forum) to repentance and faith but only few will come. Some sinners will come to repentance and faith when they are gently handled. Others will come to repentance and faith from hearing a fire and brimstone sermon. In all, it is God that gets the glory for any that repent and believe, for HE knows HIS own, and HE calls them to HIM.

Blessings

I'm tired, you know?

Friend, I never heard God call all people sinners, and neither will I ever believe that; even Jesus stated that there are sinless people.

Jesus Heals a Man Born Blind
9 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”
3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”


I hope this helps you in your walk with God; I do not see you or the people of this forum as sinners, and I never will, EVER.

 

[JerryfromMass]

I'm tired, you know?

Friend, I never heard God call all people sinners, and neither will I ever believe that; even Jesus stated that there are sinless people.

Jesus Heals a Man Born Blind
9 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”
3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”


I hope this helps you in your walk with God; I do not see you or the people of this forum as sinners, and I never will, EVER.

Brother, I hear you. I'm tired, too. But the battle for truth wages on regardless of how tired we get. Run the race to complete the race, and then your crown(s) await.

Jesus meant that the blindness at birth was not the result of the blind mans sins or of those if his parents; HE was not saying they were perfectly sinless.

“And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.” Luke 18:19. 'None means all.

“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” Romans 3:23. 'All' means all.

“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us...“If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.” 1 John 1:8, 10. 'We' means all.

God's standard of good is moral excellence. None have lived up to that moral standard, which is why we all need Jesus to forgive us our sins and cleanse us. Jesus makes it very clear that sin is manifested in the heart, e.g., lusting, murder, but also by coveting, pride, envy, greed, all sins that begin in the mind and manifest in the heart which may lead to actual physical manifestistion of sin in the body.

None are good, all sin, and all that deny they have sin are calling God a liar. Hope this helps you.

I was saved, am being saved, and will be saved by God's unmerited favor that HE extends to all sinners who know they are sinners and confess their sins and know they need a savior.

If you dont believe you are a sinner or have sinned, why would you call on Jesus to be your Savior?

Blessings

 

[JerryfromMass]

I'm tired, you know?

Friend, I never heard God call all people sinners, and neither will I ever believe that; even Jesus stated that there are sinless people.

Jesus Heals a Man Born Blind
9 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”
3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”


I hope this helps you in your walk with God; I do not see you or the people of this forum as sinners, and I never will, EVER.

What does the Word of God - the Bible - say? Here are a few verses:

Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
1 John 1:8 ESV /
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
Romans 6:23 ESV
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 3:23-24 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
John 3:16 ESV
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Romans 5:12 ESV
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned—
Proverbs 28:13 ESV
Whoever conceals his transgressions will not prosper, but he who confesses and forsakes them will obtain mercy.

I hope you will read God's word and understand why it is that the only begotten Son of God had to leave HIS eternal place in heaven and become a human being in order to reconcile HIMSELF to humanity and reconcile humanity to HIMSELF.

Blessings