THE ANTICHRISTIAN NATIONS and The Last Church

[TheWordIsOne]

greetings
question do you know?
Grace has a Period of time
And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
(Genesis 6:3)

If Adam fell from sin within his life span, 930 years giving the life span of humans to Noah and the end of man's history, man's golded age
Time, which is the last Church and when?
The fullness of grace
The fullness of Iniquities
The fullness of Revelation
The Value of Her Cup

 

[PloughBoy]

greetings
question do you know?
Grace has a Period of time
And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
(Genesis 6:3)

If Adam fell from sin within his life span, 930 years giving the life span of humans to Noah and the end of man's history, man's golded age
Time, which is the last Church and when?
The fullness of grace
The fullness of Iniquities
The fullness of Revelation
The Value of Her Cup

American Standard Version
For I would not, brethren, have you ignorant of this mystery, lest ye be wise in your own conceits, that a hardening in part hath befallen Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in;

And WhenThat Trumpet Sound

And when it is all over, He will have to wipe away our Tears, so that we will remember no more. And HE will make all things new.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Hebrews 5:12-14 (NKJV) For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

ANTICHRISTIAN​

an observation ​

I don't understand why do Christians offend other Christians, there is going to be a day when all Christians are going to be persecuted, house to house, also a type of antichristian that will crucify Christianity
this type of antichristian is called tares

Luke 21:16-17 (NKJV) You will be betrayed even by parents and brothers, relatives and friends; and they will put some of you to death.
And you will be hated by all for My name's sake.
Revelation 2:13 I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. And you hold fast to My name and did not deny My faith even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.
Revelation 17:6-7 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.
But the angel said to me, "Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns.

Revelation 17: 6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
this woman is a particular Church will slain Christians the phrase drink and be drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.

I marveled with great amazement, This is a spiritual height, getting high off of the sins of the sinners and of?

Revelation 2:13
drink and be drunken it is spiritual physical death but, a spiritual death

What are the martyrs of Jesus?

There is a Judas Goat and a Barsabbas among you, just as it was then and will be at the end
Acts 15:22-33
Matthew 13:55-57

Luke 6:16-16 (NKJV) Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot who also became a traitor.

Keyword a traitor
John 14:22 (KJV) Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

Pictures are a thousand words

 

[Christ4Ever]

I don't understand why do Christians offend other Christians

Dear TheWordIsOne,
First it would have one to define what Christian is!
Some who are believers in Christ Jesus, don't necessarily even identify themselves as being Christians. They see it as an insult to even be called a Christian! Then depending on the denomination in question, they themselves don't identify themselves as being Christians. For example, when one is asked "What are you?". They'll state I'm Catholic, Protestant, Pentecostal, etc. You even have those who in the eyes of many which are considered cults or even out of the main-stream of Christendom, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Scientist, and even this list could go on.

So, the root/rock of many I have mentioned would tell you that their foundation is Jesus Christ/Yeshua Hamashiach, Peter, the Bible, while others would say "God", "Jehovah" and sadly even this list goes on, and on.

Now back to what you don't understand, and which begs my initial opening sentence. What is a Christian?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Dear TheWordIsOne,
First it would have one to define what Christian is!
Some who are believers in Christ Jesus, don't necessarily even identify themselves as being Christians. They see it as an insult to even be called a Christian! Then depending on the denomination in question, they themselves don't identify themselves as being Christians. For example, when one is asked "What are you?". They'll state I'm Catholic, Protestant, Pentecostal, etc. You even have those who in the eyes of many which are considered cults or even out of the main-stream of Christendom, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Scientist, and even this list could go on.

So, the root/rock of many I have mentioned would tell you that their foundation is Jesus Christ/Yeshua Hamashiach, Peter, the Bible, while others would say "God", "Jehovah" and sadly even this list goes on, and on.
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Now back to what you don't understand, and which begs my initial opening sentence. What is a Christian?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

greetings
you identify a Christian by the anointing of the Holy Spirit, that person is identified, by the teaching of the Holy Spirit, by the gifts of the Holy Spirit

The formula of my anointing
Rhema is the action of God’s word
Logos the written action of Rhema

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God that spoke as they were moved by the (Rhema) Holy Ghost by (Logos)
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.

(Isaiah 21:5 (KJV)
Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, and drink: arise, ye princes, and anoint the shield.

​

Then there is a create it false Jesus
2 Corinthians 11:4 (KJV) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

to confess that Jesus is the Christ, I may say how did He come in the flesh, but who bears witness to this?

Then the false Jesus takes away the shedding of Blood for sinners
Hebrews 9: 22

Then in
Revelation 11:7-8 (KJV) And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

that Great City, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified
compare with 2 Corinthians 11:4 if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

But don't take my word for it, and I'm not a Christian! I only defend them, but I know them by their fruits

​

 

[Christ4Ever]

But don't take my word, and I'm not a Christian!

I don't understand why do Christians offend other Christians

Dear TheWordIsOne,
Then why are you concerned about Christians offending each other?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[PloughBoy]

Hebrews 5:12-14 (NKJV) For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

ANTICHRISTIAN​

an observation ​

I don't understand why do Christians offend other Christians, there is going to be a day when all Christians are going to be persecuted, house to house, also a type of antichristian that will crucify Christianity
this type of antichristian is called tares

Luke 21:16-17 (NKJV) You will be betrayed even by parents and brothers, relatives and friends; and they will put some of you to death.
And you will be hated by all for My name's sake.
Revelation 2:13 I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. And you hold fast to My name and did not deny My faith even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.
Revelation 17:6-7 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.
But the angel said to me, "Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns.

Revelation 17: 6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
this woman is a particular Church will slain Christians the phrase drink and be drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.

I marveled with great amazement, This is a spiritual height, getting high off of the sins of the sinners and of?

Revelation 2:13
drink and be drunken it is spiritual physical death but, a spiritual death

What are the martyrs of Jesus?

There is a Judas Goat and a Barsabbas among you, just as it was then and will be at the end
Acts 15:22-33
Matthew 13:55-57

Luke 6:16-16 (NKJV) Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot who also became a traitor.

Keyword a traitor
John 14:22 (KJV) Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

Pictures are a thousand words

Your quote:
“I don't understand why do Christians offend other Christians, there is going to be a day when all Christians are going to be persecuted, house to house, also a type of antichristian that will crucify Christianity
this type of antichristian is called tares”

What do you mean going to?

They just have not gotten to your door yet, and The demons have not reach your Block yet. Did you not hear the sound liken unto “ Paul Revere” midnight ride. When he shouted!

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Dear TheWordIsOne,
Then why are you concerned about Christians offending each other?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
\o/
<><

Am I my Brother's Keeper

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Your quote:
“I don't understand why do Christians offend other Christians, there is going to be a day when all Christians are going to be persecuted, house to house, also a type of antichristian that will crucify Christianity
this type of antichristian is called tares”

What do you mean going to?

They just have not gotten to your door yet, and The demons have not reach your Block yet. Did you not hear the sound liken unto “ Paul Revere” midnight ride. When he shouted!

How do you know?
Genesis 4:7 (NKJV) If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."

sin lies at your door
its desire for you
you think there are just words

As Paul did not Revere

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Ezekiel 33:3-5 (NKJV) when he sees the sword coming upon the land if he blows the trumpet and warns the people, then whoever hears the sound of the trumpet and does not take warning, if the sword comes and takes him away, his blood shall be on his own head.
He heard the sound of the trumpet, but did not take warning; his blood shall be upon himself. But he who takes warning will save his life.

The demons have not reached your Block yet. Did you not hear the sound liken unto “ Paul Revere” midnight ride. When he shouted!​

as for the midnight ride

Exodus 12:29 (NKJV) And it came to pass at midnight that the LORD struck all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of livestock.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Am I my Brother's Keeper

Dear TheWordIsOne,
Is everyman your brother?
We can continue to play the word games, but I believe my question/query of you is valid.
If you do not consider yourself a Christian, which then begs the question "What are you?" which I showed examples of in my first response to you.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[Bill]

Dear TheWordIsOne,
First it would have one to define what Christian is!
Some who are believers in Christ Jesus, don't necessarily even identify themselves as being Christians. They see it as an insult to even be called a Christian! Then depending on the denomination in question, they themselves don't identify themselves as being Christians. For example, when one is asked "What are you?". They'll state I'm Catholic, Protestant, Pentecostal, etc. You even have those who in the eyes of many which are considered cults or even out of the main-stream of Christendom, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Scientist, and even this list could go on.

So, the root/rock of many I have mentioned would tell you that their foundation is Jesus Christ/Yeshua Hamashiach, Peter, the Bible, while others would say "God", "Jehovah" and sadly even this list goes on, and on.

Now back to what you don't understand, and which begs my initial opening sentence. What is a Christian?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

A Christain is a person who lives in the Love of God and God lives in them . Enoch was the first true example of what it is to be a Christain.

Jesus being the Eternal God stated , NO ONE can go to the Father but through me. Yet as Jesus tells us via the Old Testiment, Enoch loved God , and God took him.

 

[PloughBoy]

A Christain is a person who lives in the Love of God and God lives in them . Enoch was the first true example of what it is to be a Christain.

Jesus being the Eternal God stated , NO ONE can go to the Father but through me. Yet as Jesus tells us via the Old Testiment, Enoch loved God , and God took him.

So, you are saying “Enoch” was “Christlike”, then may I ask, “Who was “Enoch” Living example, who did He Follow?

American Standard Version
he that saith he abideth in him ought himself also to walk even as he walked.

According to The Holy Scriptures, Jesus The Anointed of GOD did not begin setting an example or pattern to follow or be like Him until around “AD 30-35”.

Now The New Covenant, has Proclaim, There is only One Way to GOD the Father and That way is Through Christ. And since The Anointed of GOD Was born In a Little town called Bethlehem of Judea and his mother was called Mary. and He would be called Emmanuel.

So how could, “Enoch “ be a Christian, if he didn’t have a “Christ” to follow?

Unless you have your own version and your own version of What a “Christian” is, by choice or some kind of Special divine revelation that Enoch was “ChristLike” before “Jesus The Anointed of GOD” was even born. Or the Prophesies that He would “The GOD Man” would appear and walk among His own creation.

did not The Scripture proclaim by The very Mouth of “THE Christ of GOD”. That GOD is A Spirit and They that worship Him must Worship Him in Spirit and Truth. And Is Not “The Christ of GOD” Te Second “Adam” who is A Life Giving Spirit? the 1st Adam was A Life giving Flesh. Who was “Enoch” Paternal grandfather? Was not Enoch born of The Flesh and not “Born of GOD”?

Not taken away from the Text which says; “and Enoch walked with GOD” and The Bible also said: “A Donkey Talked and saw an Angel with a Sword in His Hand”

In others words, GOD can do anything He want to do, but lie and deny that He exists.

So in saying all of That, how say you That; “Enoch was a Christian”. So I can be Edified.

PS. GOD loved Enoch . GOD also Loved The Whole World That He Gave HIS only SON.

Where did GOD take Him? “Enoch”

For Jesus The Christ of GOD, also made This Statement and He does Not Lie!

New King James Version
No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

New American Standard Bible
No one has ascended into heaven, except He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.

Now I am curious how you will explain this one away,

Now you put a lot on The Table. And it is very hard to digest or to place in one’s mouth, let alone to chew.


So do not get mad, but Theologically explain your position and back it up! Be a Man! And please do not throw a “Theological Fix”! Because you are getting to old. So when you get through reading this, Have a cup of Coffee or a glass of room temperature water.

Your Friend,
ploughBoy

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Dear TheWordIsOne,
Is everyman your brother?
We can continue to play the word games, but I believe my question/query of you is valid.
If you do not consider yourself a Christian, which then begs the question "What are you?" which I showed examples of in my first response to you.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
\o/
<><

A hint

If you do not consider yourself a Christian, which then begs the question "What are you?" which I showed examples of in my first response to you

Greetings
Proverbs say
Proverbs 25:2-3 (KJV) It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
The heaven for height, the earth for depth, and the heart of kings are unsearchable.

Then in Corinthians, it said
1 Corinthians 2:11 (NKJV) For what man knows the things of a man except for the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so, no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.

then in 1 Corinthians 2:10 (NKJV) But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
Proverbs say
Proverbs 9:9-12 (NKJV) Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser; Teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
For by me your days will be multiplied, And years of life will be added to you.
If you are wise, you are wise for yourself, And if you scoff, you will bear it alone."

note
fear of the Lord: This is the central theme of the Book of Proverbs (see 1:7). The only appropriate way to approach the holy God is with fear, that is, reverence.
The term Holy One is an intensive plural of the Hebrew word for holy: “the most Holy One” or “the quintessence of holiness.” for yourself … alone: You will feel the effects of your wisdom or foolishness directly; you cannot escape them.

For me it was fear, but with great love
In Isaiah 28:9-10 (NKJV) "Whom will he teach knowledge? And whom will he make to understand the message? Those just weaned from milk? Those just drawn from the breasts?
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little."

my problem is speech defects like Moses
Isaiah 28:11-12 (NKJV) For with stammering lips and another tongue, He will speak to this people,
To whom He said, "This is the rest with which You may cause the weary to rest," And, "This is the refreshing", Yet they would not hear.

Who am I
stammering lips and another tongue
I am bilingual
In Exodus 4:10-12 (NLT2) But Moses pleaded with the LORD, “O Lord, I’m not very good with words. I never have been, and I’m not now, even though you have spoken to me. I get tongue-tied, and my words get tangled.”
Then the LORD asked Moses, “Who makes a person’s mouth? Who decides whether people speak or do not speak, hear or do not hear, see or do not see? Is it not I, the LORD?
Now go! I will be with you as you speak, and I will instruct you in what to say.”

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Dear TheWordIsOne,
First it would have one to define what Christian is!
Some who are believers in Christ Jesus, don't necessarily even identify themselves as being Christians. They see it as an insult to even be called a Christian! Then depending on the denomination in question, they themselves don't identify themselves as being Christians. For example, when one is asked "What are you?". They'll state I'm Catholic, Protestant, Pentecostal, etc. You even have those who in the eyes of many which are considered cults or even out of the main-stream of Christendom, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Scientist, and even this list could go on.

So, the root/rock of many I have mentioned would tell you that their foundation is Jesus Christ/Yeshua Hamashiach, Peter, the Bible, while others would say "God", "Jehovah" and sadly even this list goes on, and on.

Now back to what you don't understand, and which begs my initial opening sentence. What is a Christian?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

greetings
there are so many denominations, as you mention never knowing which is which

In Titus 1:4-5 (NKJV) To Titus, a true son in our common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Savior.
For this reason, I left you in Crete, that you should set in order the things that are lacking, and appoint elders in every city as I commanded you--
The local church was meant to be autonomous, with the right of self-government and freedom from the hierarchy, but the local church change Saturday to Sunday

Lucius Ferraris Prompta Bibliotheca
The {Bishop of Rome} is of so great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws….The {Bishop of Rome} can modify divine law since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent {representative} of God upon the earth. Article “papa” II vol. VI p. 29

The Catholic Encyclopedia
The Church, after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath of the seventh day of the week to the first, made the Third-day commandment refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord’s day. Vol. 4 page 153

American Catholic Quarterly Review January 1883
Protestantism, in discarding the authority of the church, has no good reason for its Sunday theory, and ought logically to keep Saturday with the Jews

Exodus 20:8-10 (NKJV) "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it, you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.

Galatians 3:21-29 (NKJV) Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law.
But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.
Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ so that we might be justified by faith.
But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

This means to me, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God Exodus 20: 9
this complete Christ mandate, the New Covenant yet to come
I am an outsider

 

[Br. Bear]

So, you are saying “Enoch” was “Christlike”, then may I ask, “Who was “Enoch” Living example, who did He Follow?

American Standard Version
he that saith he abideth in him ought himself also to walk even as he walked.

According to The Holy Scriptures, Jesus The Anointed of GOD did not begin setting an example or pattern to follow or be like Him until around “AD 30-35”.

Now The New Covenant, has Proclaim, There is only One Way to GOD the Father and That way is Through Christ. And since The Anointed of GOD Was born In a Little town called Bethlehem of Judea and his mother was called Mary. and He would be called Emmanuel.

So how could, “Enoch “ be a Christian, if he didn’t have a “Christ” to follow?

Unless you have your own version and your own version of What a “Christian” is, by choice or some kind of Special divine revelation that Enoch was “ChristLike” before “Jesus The Anointed of GOD” was even born. Or the Prophesies that He would “The GOD Man” would appear and walk among His own creation.

did not The Scripture proclaim by The very Mouth of “THE Christ of GOD”. That GOD is A Spirit and They that worship Him must Worship Him in Spirit and Truth. And Is Not “The Christ of GOD” Te Second “Adam” who is A Life Giving Spirit? the 1st Adam was A Life giving Flesh. Who was “Enoch” Paternal grandfather? Was not Enoch born of The Flesh and not “Born of GOD”?

Not taken away from the Text which says; “and Enoch walked with GOD” and The Bible also said: “A Donkey Talked and saw an Angel with a Sword in His Hand”

In others words, GOD can do anything He want to do, but lie and deny that He exists.

So in saying all of That, how say you That; “Enoch was a Christian”. So I can be Edified.

PS. GOD loved Enoch . GOD also Loved The Whole World That He Gave HIS only SON.

Where did GOD take Him? “Enoch”

For Jesus The Christ of GOD, also made This Statement and He does Not Lie!

New King James Version
No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

New American Standard Bible
No one has ascended into heaven, except He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.

Now I am curious how you will explain this one away,

Now you put a lot on The Table. And it is very hard to digest or to place in one’s mouth, let alone to chew.


So do not get mad, but Theologically explain your position and back it up! Be a Man! And please do not throw a “Theological Fix”! Because you are getting to old. So when you get through reading this, Have a cup of Coffee or a glass of room temperature water.

Your Friend,
ploughBoy

practice what you preach, then ask

 

[PloughBoy]

practice what you preach, then ask

May I ask, are you referring to me that I am referring to be “A Christian”. If so I never have or will ever refer my self as a “Christian” As “Christlike” I could never proclaim that Truth. My Father has never called me a Christian,If anyone has knows me down through The years, I could never, can consider to being “ChristLike” and would take great Offensive to be label as a “Christian” for I know whom I am, “a Child of The Living GOD” born of His Spirit” and wash in His blood, “Born of GOD” and Have been Called by Himself, and by his voice, that I am His Child and He Cannot Lie! For I heard his voice in my Tears as They ran down my face, and I cannot deny or lie about The Words He Spoke to me.

And He Meant it.

For I am not a Christian [Christlike] I am not. I am just a mere “Sinner” that has been saved by Grace, nothing more nothing less. And I will be “Indicative” a adopted Son, imperative like many others that will be. By Grace alone.

But now days everyone has their own definition what the term Christian means and it is very Understandable. And received, gladly by me and thousands of Others with no arguments or Animosity. And I do considered it good and nice and peaceful, for them to be label as such.

 

[Bill]

practice what you preach, then ask

Its ok , i do have an answer to his question

 

[Bill]

So, you are saying “Enoch” was “Christlike”, then may I ask, “Who was “Enoch” Living example, who did He Follow?

American Standard Version
he that saith he abideth in him ought himself also to walk even as he walked.

According to The Holy Scriptures, Jesus The Anointed of GOD did not begin setting an example or pattern to follow or be like Him until around “AD 30-35”.

Now The New Covenant, has Proclaim, There is only One Way to GOD the Father and That way is Through Christ. And since The Anointed of GOD Was born In a Little town called Bethlehem of Judea and his mother was called Mary. and He would be called Emmanuel.

So how could, “Enoch “ be a Christian, if he didn’t have a “Christ” to follow?

Unless you have your own version and your own version of What a “Christian” is, by choice or some kind of Special divine revelation that Enoch was “ChristLike” before “Jesus The Anointed of GOD” was even born. Or the Prophesies that He would “The GOD Man” would appear and walk among His own creation.

did not The Scripture proclaim by The very Mouth of “THE Christ of GOD”. That GOD is A Spirit and They that worship Him must Worship Him in Spirit and Truth. And Is Not “The Christ of GOD” Te Second “Adam” who is A Life Giving Spirit? the 1st Adam was A Life giving Flesh. Who was “Enoch” Paternal grandfather? Was not Enoch born of The Flesh and not “Born of GOD”?

Not taken away from the Text which says; “and Enoch walked with GOD” and The Bible also said: “A Donkey Talked and saw an Angel with a Sword in His Hand”

In others words, GOD can do anything He want to do, but lie and deny that He exists.

So in saying all of That, how say you That; “Enoch was a Christian”. So I can be Edified.

PS. GOD loved Enoch . GOD also Loved The Whole World That He Gave HIS only SON.

Where did GOD take Him? “Enoch”

For Jesus The Christ of GOD, also made This Statement and He does Not Lie!

New King James Version
No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

New American Standard Bible
No one has ascended into heaven, except He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.

Now I am curious how you will explain this one away,

Now you put a lot on The Table. And it is very hard to digest or to place in one’s mouth, let alone to chew.


So do not get mad, but Theologically explain your position and back it up! Be a Man! And please do not throw a “Theological Fix”! Because you are getting to old. So when you get through reading this, Have a cup of Coffee or a glass of room temperature water.

Your Friend,
ploughBoy

Hello Brother .

It is a bit of a long explination, but it is similar to your own, being a Child of the Most High ( and you as a person i would call a Christian )

You see there are many children of God that dont know they are Children of God, and there are many Christians that dont know they are Christian.

But i need for you to hear me brother. Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega Rev 22:13 Jesus is the Beginning and the End.

And in the Gospel of John 1: 1 - 18 ( i will paraphrase a bit ) John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God.
John 1:3 Through Him all things came to be.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created
John 1:9&10 The Word was the true light that enlightens all men. And He was coming into the world. He was in the world that had its being though Him and the world did not know Him.

So you have Enoch who falls deeply in love with God. He doesnt know Jesus, as Jesus hasn't been revealed yet. But Jesus, who is the Word of God already was there.

Remember, Jesus tells us, No One can go to the Father but through me. And as we read, Jesus is there from the beginning. And it is Jesus who speaks, He is the Word. It was Jesus who spoke to Moses. Jesus who said " I am who am " .

So Enoch's love and faith was all that was necessary.
This is why Paul states in Romans 2:29 The real Jew is one who is inwardly a Jew, and the real circumcision is in the heart.

All of scripture has to agree with itself my brother.

 

[Bill]

practice what you preach, then ask

The same could be said for you. To be a true follower of Christ, you must forgive those who trespass against you. And what i am saying is that darkness you still hold in your heart against the catholics.

My brother, i too want you to recieve the fulness of Christ, but until the catholic issues have been remedied within your heart. This faith you have now, will only remain as a shadow of what your faith can become.

 

[Bill]

Once everyone can overcome the snares of the devil, and that can only happen in Jesus. When that day comes, we will not need to call ourselves by any human lable, Catholics, Baptists , etc . Because we will all know we are the Children of God.