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The Christian and The Pagan

Real_Revival

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What is a Pagan,
Deifies the stars, or the sun, or a planet, or a constellation
claiming to worship it. Their adoration is to nature although they
do not adhere to it by any means but rather self proclaim the preeminence as to what should be done with it. Might dabble in sorcery, tarot cards, fortune telling, and other means of unsightly gain. Is a spiritual inquirer comparatively to a customer looking through a catalogue, or a modern conventionalist looking through an ikea furniture store, and have a rebranding of the backlog of values or principles from the old theosophist and gnostic teachings.
If it comes to, might find conviction back to God but for the most part is
a worldly person.
A Pagan has knowledge about the stars, about the metaphysical, or more traditionally and appropriately referred to, the spiritual.
The Pagan may know a thing or two about life, the world, wisdom, success, knowledge, truth, and even love as they love their own who are like they
but have contempt for any or most forms of jugdement and lack consideration for others, being of no concern at all. Maybe a little, for a lack of a better word, a pagan is a narcissist with some spiritual connotation but when it comes to worshipping the stars, the heavens, the planets, the sun, the earth, nature.
The Pagan deifies himself as these things and uses his knowledge and wisdom for what every narcissist has in common.
To deify themselves. Attempt to become Gods.
The secular enthusiasts in the world of wonder that God has made, and might even know theres a God but does not care about such things, after all, they are a Pagan.
The Christian is looking to search out truth, which is what usually brings him to the Church in the first place. The Christian is looking to find an answer in his own life that can only be answered by truth. Specifically truth that has made itself known by common life experience and what wisdom and truth we have gained.
The Christian knows there is good and evil. The Christian has a yearning and seeking to do good, and talk to others about God.
Althought there is a Devil,
there is God and Christians know this.
A Christian is Gods chosen people in a world that has chosen else and are hated amongst God haters, specifically narcissistic sociopaths,
Its not any far stretch out of reason that there would be liars in the church for self gain as some have stated "Wolves in sheeps clothing"
But there is this Scripture:

The Parable of the Weeds

24Jesus put before them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25But while everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and slipped away. 26When the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the weeds also appeared.
27The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’
28‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
So the servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’
29‘No,’ he said, ‘if you pull the weeds now, you might uproot the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat into my barn.’ ”
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat into my barn.'"
 
Pagans were a lot less monotheistic than Christians. Back then, the difference was between a Pagan and a Pantheist, the distinction between which has been lost in modern times. A pantheist is a materialist. Think about idols, civic statues, and the crucifix or saint's image. Looked at civically, a statue could be of Abraham Lincoln. Few people have a problem of any kind with either the Lincoln memorial or the five-dollar bill. The matter is in the difference between how one and the other person acts and believes in relation to the sculpture or note of legal tender. What are you going to do, call bingo numbers and worship the statue? Five? Five what, golden rings? You want me to dial up MI5 on international 999 or visit Whitehall for you? It takes more literacy than that. The spirit of Abraham Lincoln is nowhere thought to be encased in the Washington Lincoln Monument, and your spiritual attraction to it as a Citizen of the Republic is something you should accept as being an emotional reaction on your part to the size and scale of it, the pure white marble, maybe in modern times the fact that it overlooks the black Vietnam memorial wall. If you were there in person and you had no spiritual response whatsoever to Lincoln, I would think there was something seriously wrong with you, but in reality, the Spirit of Lincoln, if you want to find that instead of just appreciating art with your own spirit, why don't you read writings by Abraham Lincoln and study the Union Civil War?

There was also a Confederate Civil War, Confederates wrote books too. There were even pollsters and electioneers in 1860, Politics, vote counting, and vote rigging could be something to investigate, you could check to see who also ran for office that year, you could order a copy of the vote count receipts. Portraits are supposed to interest you in the person. A Pius Jew of Solomon's time or the age of Neimiah would not have tried to depict God, who the ancients believed to be a purely spiritual being. Portraits existed of people however, and Jesus Christ who was a man is represented in the art world. That's a good starting place for a study of the Ten Commandments and the cross. Did the fourth commandment change? Did Pentecost do that, or one of the Romans? Did the second commandment change?

I don't even speak to people who won't allow the cross in their churches at all, in spite of the fact that I've been places with too many statues and incense burners too. (Stay out of the Alhambra Meditation place!) If you refuse to record it even visually or acknowledge it in the arts, you're a secret society or a holocaust denier.
 
Pagans were a lot less monotheistic than Christians. Back then, the difference was between a Pagan and a Pantheist, the distinction between which has been lost in modern times. A pantheist is a materialist. Think about idols, civic statues, and the crucifix or saint's image. Looked at civically, a statue could be of Abraham Lincoln. Few people have a problem of any kind with either the Lincoln memorial or the five-dollar bill. The matter is in the difference between how one and the other person acts and believes in relation to the sculpture or note of legal tender. What are you going to do, call bingo numbers and worship the statue? Five? Five what, golden rings? You want me to dial up MI5 on international 999 or visit Whitehall for you? It takes more literacy than that. The spirit of Abraham Lincoln is nowhere thought to be encased in the Washington Lincoln Monument, and your spiritual attraction to it as a Citizen of the Republic is something you should accept as being an emotional reaction on your part to the size and scale of it, the pure white marble, maybe in modern times the fact that it overlooks the black Vietnam memorial wall. If you were there in person and you had no spiritual response whatsoever to Lincoln, I would think there was something seriously wrong with you, but in reality, the Spirit of Lincoln, if you want to find that instead of just appreciating art with your own spirit, why don't you read writings by Abraham Lincoln and study the Union Civil War?

There was also a Confederate Civil War, Confederates wrote books too. There were even pollsters and electioneers in 1860, Politics, vote counting, and vote rigging could be something to investigate, you could check to see who also ran for office that year, you could order a copy of the vote count receipts. Portraits are supposed to interest you in the person. A Pius Jew of Solomon's time or the age of Neimiah would not have tried to depict God, who the ancients believed to be a purely spiritual being. Portraits existed of people however, and Jesus Christ who was a man is represented in the art world. That's a good starting place for a study of the Ten Commandments and the cross. Did the fourth commandment change? Did Pentecost do that, or one of the Romans? Did the second commandment change?

I don't even speak to people who won't allow the cross in their churches at all, in spite of the fact that I've been places with too many statues and incense burners too. (Stay out of the Alhambra Meditation place!) If you refuse to record it even visually or acknowledge it in the arts, you're a secret society or a holocaust denier.
Well written
 
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