Tommy061
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Thecrucified life and what it looks like!
Gal 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and I live; yet no longer I,but Christ lives in me. And that life I now live in the flesh, I live byfaith toward the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself on my behalf.
al 5:24 But those belonging to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we livein the Spirit, let also walk in the Spirit.
Rom 6:6 knowing this,that our old man iscrucified with Him in order that the body of sin might bedestroyed, that from now on we should not serve sin.
When it comes to a true saving faith (obedience) there isno point going further until you understand what it means to be crucified withChrist!
You can argue night and day about the Sabbath, Baptism,Pagan holidays, the rapture, head coverings etc., and miss the most importantissue of all, and that is have you actually crucified your flesh with Christ,through real repentance and faith(obedience)once and for all in reality?
Or have you bought into the great lie of deception beingtaught today by the army of false teachers who have either been dupedthemselves, or are under the great delusion sent by God!
2Th 2:10 and with all deceit ofunrighteousness in those who perish, because they did not receive the love of thetruth, so that they mightbe saved.
2Th 2:11 And for thiscause God shall sendthem strong delusion, that they shouldbelieve a lie.
IF you are still in bondage to sins of the flesh, and I amtalking about willful rebellious sin, done presumptuously in hate, guile,malice, anger, or lust, then you did not crucify your flesh with Christ.
This is not a process, that takes place over time, or asymbolic occurrence that took place when you said the sinner’s prayer and thentrusted Jesus did it all, and in Him you are crucified in position, because Heobeyed for you, because you cannot possible crucify your flesh in your ownability.
Apart from real repentance, and a working faith in love,where you must crucify your flesh with Christ, then you are in danger and mustdo your first works, repent, and come to a saving faith.
Thus a real crucified convert will looklike this:
Walking in newness of life!
Departed from iniquity!
Obedient to the truth!
Loving not the world!
Loving neighbor as self!
Putting God first and foremost!
Abstaining from all forms of evil!
Lover of the truth!
Contending earnestly for the pureword!(truth)
Keeping himself undefiled and unspottedfrom the world!
Guarding his heart above all things!
An overcomer through the blood ofChrist!
Living soberly, righteously, and godlyin this present age!
Having no fellowship with theunfruitful works of darkness!
Departing or departed from the lukewarmchurch who promotes the lie! (Saved IN sin, Romans wretch, chief of sinners,faith alone, substitution aka imputation, OSAS, etc).
A doer of God’s word and not a heareronly!
Jesus said,
Joh 8:51 Truly, truly, I say to you, Ifa man keeps My Word, he shall never see death.
Joh 14:15 If you love Me, keep Mycommandments.
Joh 15:10 If you keep My commandments,you shall abide in My love, even as I have kept My Father's commandments andabide in His love.
To be crucifiedwith Christ as you can see is a very serious matter, you cannot be IN sin andIN Christ at the same time, they don’t mix, and not getting this right willmake the difference between heaven or hell, God has given all mankind a choice,and a way out of bondage to sin, and the world.
2Co 7:9 Now Irejoice, not that you were grieved, but that you grieved to repentance. For youwere grieved according to God, so that you might suffer loss by nothing in us.
2Co 7:10 For the griefaccording to God works repentance to salvation,not to be regretted,but the grief of the world works out death.
2Co 7:11 For behold this same thing(you being grieved according to God); how much it worked out earnestness inyou; but also defense; but also indignation; but alsofear; but also desire; but also zeal; but also vengeance!In everything you approved yourselves to be clear(PURE) in the matter.
Jesus came to setmankind free, see John 8-32, but He didn’t come to be your substitute, in anyway, shape or form, or to crucify Himself for you, He came to save us from oursins, through repentance and faith (obedience) where we crucify the flesh onceand for all!
It’s not aboutperfection, it’s not about not needing Jesus, it’s not about beingself-righteous or bragging I did it myself, etc.,, but it’s about, humility,brokenness, sacrifice, and a passion and zeal to count the cost, and comebefore the mercy seat in complete surrender and with a crisis of conviction,that leads to real godly sorrow, where the sin stops, and the flesh is crucifiedand put to death once and for all!
The crucified lifethen is a life on the narrow road, following Jesus as He commanded by denyingself-daily, and taking up your cross and living a life pleasing to Him, walkingIN the spirit, where you will not give any provision for the flesh!
Gal 5:16 I say, then,Walk in theSpirit and you shall notfulfill the lusts of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For theflesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. And these arecontrary to one another; lest whatever you may will, these things you do.
Gal 5:18 But if youare led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
Gal 5:19 Now theworks of the flesh are clearly revealed, which are: adultery, fornication,uncleanness, lustfulness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry,sorcery, hatreds, fightings, jealousies, angers, rivalries, divisions,heresies,
Gal 5:21 envyings, murders,drunkennesses, revelings, and things like these; of which I tell you before, asI also said before, that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdomof God.
The crucified lifeis living a dynamic life of faith (obedience) to the truth, doing what is rightby choice and also a healthy fear of an all Holy God, who is very patient andlongsuffering toward us all, not wanting any to die, but all to come torepentance! 2 Peter 3-9.
The Crucified lifeis more about obedience, than perfection, sin is missing the mark, which we alldo every day, BUT, does missing the mark mean we miss by falling into pornoccasionally, fornication on occasion, getting drunk in a weak moment?
Many will say yes,we all fall short, which means everything we do is as a filthy rag before God,but is this honest? Is this the truth? Does a true follower of Christ, make Hisor her life a life of continued hate, evil and lust?
If your lifeconsists of a pattern of falling into the lust of the flesh, the lust of theeye’s, and the pride of life, either on occasion, or on a daily basis, then youhave NOT crucified your flesh with Christ, and you may be waiting for the Lordto do this for you in due time, but God is waiting for you to humble yourself,and make the right God given choice, to crucify your flesh once and for allwith Him as outlined above!
PS. I get tired ofprofessing Christians who say they cannot stop sinning (fornication, lying,cheating, hating, drunkenness, homosexuality, porn watching, idolatry, love OFthe world, etc.)
Because all sin isthe same, which is just a scapegoat for them to avoid the commands of God torepent, stop sinning, crucify their flesh with Him, and follow Him on thenarrow road!
Remember a trulycrucified heart does NOT live a life of falling occasionally into vile sinsthat lead to death, yes many mighty men and women of God have fallen, somefound repentance some did not, BUT to say this is the normal Christianexperience is a lie, and used as an excuse to feed the flesh, and not use allthe tools God has given us to resist temptation, overcome sins of the flesh,and put the flesh to death in repentance.
We all will bejudged just how God finds us, not in perfection, but in living a life above theflesh and its evil desires, walking in purity, sincerity, and love and faith(obedience). Faults, mistakes, poor judgments, sins of ignorance, misplacedzeal, missing the mark in these areas are not sins leading to death, but can bewhen they lead us into any guile, hate, envy, lust and pride, that is why wemust walk the crucified life, and be very sensitive to all our faults andmistakes, confess them to God, and grow more in the likeness of Jesus Christ.
One is willfulpresumptuous sin that is total rebellion towards God, a mental decision todisobey Him, and ignore His warnings and power to find a way of escape. Thisleads to death, but the other does not, and will not lead to death, unless weallow it to lead to rebellion against God, and lust of the flesh, lust of theeye’s and the pride of life!
It’s simple eitheryou are living a sincere, pure life before God, guarding your heart againstwillful sin and temptation, or you are not, Jesus isn't asking His followers tobe as perfect and spotless as He is, BUT IS asking His followers to obey Hismost un burdensome commands, and stop making excuses for sin and worldliness,He wants all our attention and love, not a divided heart between the world andHim, and most importantly, a heart made pure through repentance and faithproven by deeds, where the crucified life is the abundant life unto Him! Not alife filled with self, lust, and evil thoughts and ways!
Rev 22:11 He acting unjustly, let himstill act unjustly. And the filthy, let him be filthy still. And the righteous,let him be righteous still. And the holy, let him be holy still.
We will be judgedon how Jesus finds us when He returns or when we die, not in perfection orliving a self-righteous life, but either the crucified life in purity,sincerity, and love, OR the un crucified life of self, lust, pride, and bondageto sin and disobedience!
Tommy 6-8-12
Gal 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and I live; yet no longer I,but Christ lives in me. And that life I now live in the flesh, I live byfaith toward the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself on my behalf.
al 5:24 But those belonging to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we livein the Spirit, let also walk in the Spirit.
Rom 6:6 knowing this,that our old man iscrucified with Him in order that the body of sin might bedestroyed, that from now on we should not serve sin.
When it comes to a true saving faith (obedience) there isno point going further until you understand what it means to be crucified withChrist!
You can argue night and day about the Sabbath, Baptism,Pagan holidays, the rapture, head coverings etc., and miss the most importantissue of all, and that is have you actually crucified your flesh with Christ,through real repentance and faith(obedience)once and for all in reality?
Or have you bought into the great lie of deception beingtaught today by the army of false teachers who have either been dupedthemselves, or are under the great delusion sent by God!
2Th 2:10 and with all deceit ofunrighteousness in those who perish, because they did not receive the love of thetruth, so that they mightbe saved.
2Th 2:11 And for thiscause God shall sendthem strong delusion, that they shouldbelieve a lie.
IF you are still in bondage to sins of the flesh, and I amtalking about willful rebellious sin, done presumptuously in hate, guile,malice, anger, or lust, then you did not crucify your flesh with Christ.
This is not a process, that takes place over time, or asymbolic occurrence that took place when you said the sinner’s prayer and thentrusted Jesus did it all, and in Him you are crucified in position, because Heobeyed for you, because you cannot possible crucify your flesh in your ownability.
Apart from real repentance, and a working faith in love,where you must crucify your flesh with Christ, then you are in danger and mustdo your first works, repent, and come to a saving faith.
Thus a real crucified convert will looklike this:
Walking in newness of life!
Departed from iniquity!
Obedient to the truth!
Loving not the world!
Loving neighbor as self!
Putting God first and foremost!
Abstaining from all forms of evil!
Lover of the truth!
Contending earnestly for the pureword!(truth)
Keeping himself undefiled and unspottedfrom the world!
Guarding his heart above all things!
An overcomer through the blood ofChrist!
Living soberly, righteously, and godlyin this present age!
Having no fellowship with theunfruitful works of darkness!
Departing or departed from the lukewarmchurch who promotes the lie! (Saved IN sin, Romans wretch, chief of sinners,faith alone, substitution aka imputation, OSAS, etc).
A doer of God’s word and not a heareronly!
Jesus said,
Joh 8:51 Truly, truly, I say to you, Ifa man keeps My Word, he shall never see death.
Joh 14:15 If you love Me, keep Mycommandments.
Joh 15:10 If you keep My commandments,you shall abide in My love, even as I have kept My Father's commandments andabide in His love.
To be crucifiedwith Christ as you can see is a very serious matter, you cannot be IN sin andIN Christ at the same time, they don’t mix, and not getting this right willmake the difference between heaven or hell, God has given all mankind a choice,and a way out of bondage to sin, and the world.
2Co 7:9 Now Irejoice, not that you were grieved, but that you grieved to repentance. For youwere grieved according to God, so that you might suffer loss by nothing in us.
2Co 7:10 For the griefaccording to God works repentance to salvation,not to be regretted,but the grief of the world works out death.
2Co 7:11 For behold this same thing(you being grieved according to God); how much it worked out earnestness inyou; but also defense; but also indignation; but alsofear; but also desire; but also zeal; but also vengeance!In everything you approved yourselves to be clear(PURE) in the matter.
Jesus came to setmankind free, see John 8-32, but He didn’t come to be your substitute, in anyway, shape or form, or to crucify Himself for you, He came to save us from oursins, through repentance and faith (obedience) where we crucify the flesh onceand for all!
It’s not aboutperfection, it’s not about not needing Jesus, it’s not about beingself-righteous or bragging I did it myself, etc.,, but it’s about, humility,brokenness, sacrifice, and a passion and zeal to count the cost, and comebefore the mercy seat in complete surrender and with a crisis of conviction,that leads to real godly sorrow, where the sin stops, and the flesh is crucifiedand put to death once and for all!
The crucified lifethen is a life on the narrow road, following Jesus as He commanded by denyingself-daily, and taking up your cross and living a life pleasing to Him, walkingIN the spirit, where you will not give any provision for the flesh!
Gal 5:16 I say, then,Walk in theSpirit and you shall notfulfill the lusts of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For theflesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. And these arecontrary to one another; lest whatever you may will, these things you do.
Gal 5:18 But if youare led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
Gal 5:19 Now theworks of the flesh are clearly revealed, which are: adultery, fornication,uncleanness, lustfulness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry,sorcery, hatreds, fightings, jealousies, angers, rivalries, divisions,heresies,
Gal 5:21 envyings, murders,drunkennesses, revelings, and things like these; of which I tell you before, asI also said before, that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdomof God.
The crucified lifeis living a dynamic life of faith (obedience) to the truth, doing what is rightby choice and also a healthy fear of an all Holy God, who is very patient andlongsuffering toward us all, not wanting any to die, but all to come torepentance! 2 Peter 3-9.
The Crucified lifeis more about obedience, than perfection, sin is missing the mark, which we alldo every day, BUT, does missing the mark mean we miss by falling into pornoccasionally, fornication on occasion, getting drunk in a weak moment?
Many will say yes,we all fall short, which means everything we do is as a filthy rag before God,but is this honest? Is this the truth? Does a true follower of Christ, make Hisor her life a life of continued hate, evil and lust?
If your lifeconsists of a pattern of falling into the lust of the flesh, the lust of theeye’s, and the pride of life, either on occasion, or on a daily basis, then youhave NOT crucified your flesh with Christ, and you may be waiting for the Lordto do this for you in due time, but God is waiting for you to humble yourself,and make the right God given choice, to crucify your flesh once and for allwith Him as outlined above!
PS. I get tired ofprofessing Christians who say they cannot stop sinning (fornication, lying,cheating, hating, drunkenness, homosexuality, porn watching, idolatry, love OFthe world, etc.)
Because all sin isthe same, which is just a scapegoat for them to avoid the commands of God torepent, stop sinning, crucify their flesh with Him, and follow Him on thenarrow road!
Remember a trulycrucified heart does NOT live a life of falling occasionally into vile sinsthat lead to death, yes many mighty men and women of God have fallen, somefound repentance some did not, BUT to say this is the normal Christianexperience is a lie, and used as an excuse to feed the flesh, and not use allthe tools God has given us to resist temptation, overcome sins of the flesh,and put the flesh to death in repentance.
We all will bejudged just how God finds us, not in perfection, but in living a life above theflesh and its evil desires, walking in purity, sincerity, and love and faith(obedience). Faults, mistakes, poor judgments, sins of ignorance, misplacedzeal, missing the mark in these areas are not sins leading to death, but can bewhen they lead us into any guile, hate, envy, lust and pride, that is why wemust walk the crucified life, and be very sensitive to all our faults andmistakes, confess them to God, and grow more in the likeness of Jesus Christ.
One is willfulpresumptuous sin that is total rebellion towards God, a mental decision todisobey Him, and ignore His warnings and power to find a way of escape. Thisleads to death, but the other does not, and will not lead to death, unless weallow it to lead to rebellion against God, and lust of the flesh, lust of theeye’s and the pride of life!
It’s simple eitheryou are living a sincere, pure life before God, guarding your heart againstwillful sin and temptation, or you are not, Jesus isn't asking His followers tobe as perfect and spotless as He is, BUT IS asking His followers to obey Hismost un burdensome commands, and stop making excuses for sin and worldliness,He wants all our attention and love, not a divided heart between the world andHim, and most importantly, a heart made pure through repentance and faithproven by deeds, where the crucified life is the abundant life unto Him! Not alife filled with self, lust, and evil thoughts and ways!
Rev 22:11 He acting unjustly, let himstill act unjustly. And the filthy, let him be filthy still. And the righteous,let him be righteous still. And the holy, let him be holy still.
We will be judgedon how Jesus finds us when He returns or when we die, not in perfection orliving a self-righteous life, but either the crucified life in purity,sincerity, and love, OR the un crucified life of self, lust, pride, and bondageto sin and disobedience!
Tommy 6-8-12
