The destruction of the Temple

[StewardoftheMystery]

Many claim the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel and Jesus has not been set up yet, and another Temple needs to be rebuilt in the future in Jerusalem to fulfill this prophecy in the future. This doctrine is false. Jesus’ words below confirm both He, and the apostles, were speaking of the Temple and buildings they were looking at "with their own eyes."

The words of God confirm this truth.....

Mark 13:1-413 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,
4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?

So Jesus was telling them about the destruction of the Temple they were looking at "with their own eyes." Notice in Mark's account above there is only one question asked about when shall these buildings be destroyed, and what sign would there be prior to this event, concerning the abomination of desolation. But in Matthew's account pay attention to the question and the prophecy, as 2 separate questions are asked of Jesus.

Matthew 24:1-3
24 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

So in Matthews account not only was Jesus asked about the destruction of the Temple they were looking at "with their own eyes", but also about the signs of Christ’s second coming and also about the end of the world.

Now to Luke's account…..

Luke 21:5-7 5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,
6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?

Again notice they are speaking of the Temple and buildings they are looking at "with their own eyes." And so Jesus tells them "the signs" given before the temple is destroyed….

Luke 21:20 “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.” ( This is the abomination of desolation event spoken of in Daniel)

This event concerning the destruction of the city of Jerusalem that Jesus and the apostles were looking at "with their own eyes "is also confirmed by Jesus in ....

Luke 19:41-44 “And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it. Saying, If thou hast known, even thou, at least in this day, the things which belong unto thy peace! But now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side. And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.”

So the common mistake here is to think that the abomination of desolation concerning the destruction of the Temple is yet future, and has anything to do with the second coming of Christ and the end of the world almost 2 thousand years later. But when you understand the questions asked of Jesus was in two parts, then you will see these 2 events are separate from one another and are many, many years apart.

And it is also very clear in all accounts given in Matthew, Mark, and Luke that Jesus and the apostles were talking about the Temple and surrounding buildings they were looking at "with their own eyes".

There is no need for a future Temple to be built to fulfill this prophecy, as it has already been fulfilled in 70 a.d. when the Roman army surrounded, and then destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple. Both the words of Jesus and history prove this to be true. With the abomination of desolation events already being fulfilled, we can now focus on the events of Christ's second coming, and on the signs concerning the end of this world.

Prove all things by the words of God. Peace and God bless

 

[Waggles]

Daniel 9:26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people [Romans] of the prince who is to come [Titus] shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed. [ESV]

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;
and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. [KJV]

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Daniel 9:26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people [Romans] of the prince who is to come [Titus] shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed. [ESV]

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;
and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. [KJV]

I agree that the people of the prince that was to come was the Roman army. But the Prince in that verse is not Titus, but is referring to Satan, the Prince of this world that was forecast to come.

Jesus announced his coming here…

John 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

John 16:11
Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

All those who are of Satan’s “spirit” are the people of the Prince of this world.

 

[Waggles]

All those who are of Satan’s “spirit” are the people of the Prince of this world.

You are misunderstanding the simplicity of this prophecy.
"And the people of the prince who is to come" - the people of the prince not the prince of the people.
The people who destroyed the temple and brought about the desolation of Judah were the Romans and their prince was Titus - who truly was their prince at the time with his father Vespasian being Emperor.
Titus was a prince until 79 AD and was entrusted with the mission to exterminate Judah and Jerusalem which he completed in 70AD.
Satan did not defeat God, rather God annulled his marriage with the children of Abraham and divorced Judah.
The Romans and Titus were merely the instruments of his vengeance.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

You are misunderstanding the simplicity of this prophecy.
"And the people of the prince who is to come" - the people of the prince not the prince of the people.
The people who destroyed the temple and brought about the desolation of Judah were the Romans and their prince was Titus - who truly was their prince at the time with his father Vespasian being Emperor.
Titus was a prince until 79 AD and was entrusted with the mission to exterminate Judah and Jerusalem which he completed in 70AD.
Satan did not defeat God, rather God annulled his marriage with the children of Abraham and divorced Judah.
The Romans and Titus were merely the instruments of his vengeance.

I think you are misunderstanding the prophecy of the coming of Satan, and of his spirit called antichrist.

The spirit of the Prince of this world is the same spirit that works in not only the Romans and Titus, but in all those who are not of God’s Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

 

[Waggles]

The spirit of the Prince of this world is the same spirit that works in not only the Romans and Titus, but in all those who are not of God’s Holy Spirit.

That may be so, but that is not what this prophecy is about.
It merely predicts that a people and their prince will come to destroy the temple.
And those people were the Romans and their prince was Titus.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

That may be so, but that is not what this prophecy is about.
It merely predicts that a people and their prince will come to destroy the temple.
And those people were the Romans and their prince was Titus.

Notice the last part of Daniel 9:26 mentions a flood

Daniel 9:26

King James Version

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26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

Now here is the prophecy showing Jesus’ birth and resurrection, and it also shows when Satan ( the red Dragon) is cast out of heaven and down to earth as Jesus said. The woman Israel then flees into the wilderness ( after the AOD is set up) And then notice the mention of the war and the “flood” as shown in Daniel.

Revelation 12:1-15

King James Version

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12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.”



After Jesus’ resurrection the Prince of this world was cast out of heaven and down to earth, that is the Prince mentioned in Daniel 9:26

 

[Waggles]

OK whatever