The Doctrine Hell

[TheWordIsOne]

Greeting
Today I look about, The word says about Hell and who?

Matthew 13:41-42 (NKJV) The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV) So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 25:41-43 (NKJV) Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.'

Second Thessalonians 1:6-10 (NKJV) since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in 2

Second Thessalonians 1: 10 His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed

Because our testimony of the Saints, those who gave their testimony about what Christ’s in their life to the end

Jude 1:5-9 (NKJV) But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Likewise, also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries.
Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"

 

[Primordial Light]

Three things

Greeting
Today I look about, The word says about Hell and who?

Matthew 13:41-42 (NKJV) The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV) So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 25:41-43 (NKJV) Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.'

Second Thessalonians 1:6-10 (NKJV) since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in 2

Second Thessalonians 1: 10 His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed

Because our testimony of the Saints, those who gave their testimony about what Christ’s in their life to the end

Jude 1:5-9 (NKJV) But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Likewise, also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries.
Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"

Three quick things:
1. Did you know the name Hell (Hel) originates from pagan Norse Myth?
2. You left off the first part of II Thess 1:10 "When he comes to be glorified IN THE SAINTS..."
3. In Mark 9 when speaking of "HELL FIRE" (Gehenna Fire) they always leave off verse 49:
"FOR ALL SHALL BE SALTED WITH FIRE" -
Gehenna was the burning dump outside the south gate of natural Jerusalem - Have you seen anyone screaming in agonizing fire there?

Gee, you think there might be a spiritual interpretation to the WORD OF GOD?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Three things


Three quick things:
1. Did you know the name Hell (Hel) originates from pagan Norse Myth?
2. You left off the first part of II Thess 1:10 "When he comes to be glorified IN THE SAINTS..."
3. In Mark 9 when speaking of "HELL FIRE" (Gehenna Fire) they always leave off verse 49:
"FOR ALL SHALL BE SALTED WITH FIRE" -
Gehenna was the burning dump outside the south gate of natural Jerusalem - Have you seen anyone screaming in agonizing fire there?

Gee, you think there might be a spiritual interpretation to the WORD OF GOD?

the lesson is to?
Not give the fish away, but to teach one how to fish!

 

[Primordial Light]

the lesson is to?
Not give the fish away, but to teach one how to fish!

Looks like your trolling for ambiguities.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Looks like your trolling for ambiguities.

Read Psalm 139: 1 - 16 maybe your heart will open
Looks like your trolling for ambiguities

 

[Dave L]

Greeting
Today I look about, The word says about Hell and who?

Matthew 13:41-42 (NKJV) The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV) So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 25:41-43 (NKJV) Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.'

Second Thessalonians 1:6-10 (NKJV) since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in 2

Second Thessalonians 1: 10 His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed

Because our testimony of the Saints, those who gave their testimony about what Christ’s in their life to the end

Jude 1:5-9 (NKJV) But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Likewise, also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries.
Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"

I think eternal punishment reveals God's attributes. It glorifies his justice, judgment, goodness, wrath. As well as his mercy, love, grace, and benevolence for those he saves. Especially when you look at the sacrifice of Christ and the suffering he endured on the cross in the place of those who hated him and loved their sins more.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I think eternal punishment reveals God's attributes. It glorifies his justice, judgment, goodness, wrath. As well as his mercy, love, grace, and benevolence for those he saves. Especially when you look at the sacrifice of Christ and the suffering he endured on the cross in the place of those who hated him and loved their sins more.

my reason for this is to show where humanity was headed too, but the end is not yet

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I think eternal punishment reveals God's attributes. It glorifies his justice, judgment, goodness, wrath. As well as his mercy, love, grace, and benevolence for those he saves. Especially when you look at the sacrifice of Christ and the suffering he endured on the cross in the place of those who hated him and loved their sins more.

Greeting a note or two
The temperature can be as hot as the Sun
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Dt 4:24 — For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
2Th 1:8 — in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Note: this can be a family member as well or a friend

Revelation 14:10-11 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation, and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Note: The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God
They are drinking the cap of Indignation!

Note: Ezekiel 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies," says the Lord GOD. "Therefore turn and live!
Ezekiel 18:23 Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?" says the Lord GOD, "and not that he should turn from his ways and live?

 

[Dave L]

Greeting a note or two
The temperature can be as hot as the Sun
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Dt 4:24 — For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
2Th 1:8 — in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Note: this can be a family member as well or a friend

Revelation 14:10-11 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation, and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Note: The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God
They are drinking the cap of Indignation!

Note: Ezekiel 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies," says the Lord GOD. "Therefore turn and live!
Ezekiel 18:23 Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?" says the Lord GOD, "and not that he should turn from his ways and live?

Your problem is in confusing Old Testament Law which could not save. With NT Grace that saves those who cannot save themselves. In the OT, repentance kept God from killing you. It did not save. So you need to learn where to draw the line.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Your problem is in confusing Old Testament Law which could not save. With NT Grace that saves those who cannot save themselves. In the OT, repentance kept God from killing you. It did not save. So you need to learn where to draw the line.

Note: the Old Covenant to the New Covenant
The Law of Moses Vs the Law of Grace

Hebrews 10:26-28 (NKJV) For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

Cross-references
Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses
See Dt 17:2-6
The is the way
Philippians 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

 

[Dave L]

Note: the Old Covenant to the New Covenant
The Law of Moses Vs the Law of Grace

Hebrews 10:26-28 (NKJV) For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

Cross-references
Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses
See Dt 17:2-6
The is the way
Philippians 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

Here's another correction for your understanding. The Ten Commandments were the Old Covent. (proof available) God replaced the Old Covenant with the New Covenant.

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, That I will make a new covenant With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand To bring them out of the land of Egypt; Which my covenant they brake, Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, And write it in their hearts; And will be their God, And they shall be my people.” Jeremiah 31:31–33 (KJV 1900)

If you remain under the Old Covenant in any way you reject Jesus and commit the unforgivable sin of Hebrews 6.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Here's another correction for your understanding. The Ten Commandments were the Old Covent. (proof available) God replaced the Old Covenant with the New Covenant.

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, That I will make a new covenant With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand To bring them out of the land of Egypt; Which my covenant they brake, Although I was a husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, And write it in their hearts; And will be their God, And they shall be my people.” Jeremiah 31:31–33 (KJV 1900)

If you remain under the Old Covenant in any way you reject Jesus and commit the unforgivable sin of Hebrews 6.

We are still under the Old Covenant in every way, if you reject the Old Covenant under Christ, you commit the unforgivable sin and remain under the Old Covenant.
We are still under the Old Covenant until the His return, then the New Covenant begins. Christ is saying to the house of Israel After! the Old Covenant under CHRIST, THEN and only then, the New Covenant begins. Hebrews 10:26-28 rejected Moses' law dies without mercy tell us the Old Covenant under Christ


Mercy without Justice and no Laws. We will sin forever and ever, humanity would be miserable, and the world would be in chaos.
Because of sin, the curse will continue on the earth forever and ever.
Humanity will have depleted all its’ resources and finally enslaved itself. Men with all their technology and science will finally realize there will be no solution to solve the population of the earth. This is why it is so important to have a savior, to save us from ourselves.

Can man Justify his sins in trying to keep the Ten Commandments?
We read in Romans 3: 20 - 26. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight; for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe; for there is no difference; For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus; Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, do declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness; that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. I quote again,

In Romans 3:24-26. Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus; Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness; that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

(The word past through, does not mean that God has not forgotten our sins. What did God desire for man?)

 

[Dave L]

We are still under the Old Covenant in every way, if you reject the Old Covenant under Christ , you commit the unforgivable sin and remain under the Old Covenant.
We are still under the Old Covenant until the return, then the New Covenant begins. Christ is saying to the house of Israel After! the Old Covenant under CHRIST, THEN and then, the New Covenant begins

Why did Jesus say this is my blood of the New Covenant pointing to the cross?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Why did Jesus say this is my blood of the New Covenant pointing to the cross?

Things to come

 

[Dave L]

Things to come

This = present tense. Are you SDA?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Why did Jesus say this is my blood of the New Covenant pointing to the cross?

In Colossians 1:24-26, I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church,
of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God which was given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God, the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

This = present tense. Are you SDA?

What is an SDA explain?

 

[Dave L]

What is an SDA explain?

Seventh-Day Adventist

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Seventh-Day Adventist

No, I am one outside all Churchs, looking inside the Church
it's like John 18: 36

Matthew 3:2-3 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!"
For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, saying: "The voice of one crying in the wilderness: 'Prepare the way of the LORD; Make His paths straight.' "

Cross-references See Mark 4:17

 

[Dave L]

No, I am one outside all Churchs, looking inside the Church
it's like John 18: 36

Matthew 3:2-3 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!"
For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, saying: "The voice of one crying in the wilderness: 'Prepare the way of the LORD; Make His paths straight.' "

Cross-references See Mark 4:17

You need to understand the New Covenant first. Then look inside the Church.