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The Ethics of The Sabbath

Real_Revival

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Why are we given the Sabbath
To many, nature is man's greatest adoration. So the Sabbath is very much a representation of this, or at least the responsibilities to acclimate such a statement. Its the important day of the seven day week, and the important year of the seven year cycle.

Nature as nature is predetermined and defined by God and His will including the consequential effects from deterring from His perfect will to keep creation in harmony and well, functional, practical, reasonable, rational, worthwhile, purposeful, justifiable, and A commandment was given to abide by a rule that a day will be given to respect; man who are the least of God's priorities in this context for man's own sake. We are being given a day of rest so that the animals may rest, and that the land may rest and that the spirit of the earth may rest, and that life may constitute some proficient sense of reason for its purpose it existing and not the continuous endeavors of man whether essential or of interest, Some do know to a greater extent that God has asked us to let the earth, people, and animals rest once every seven days on the seventh day, and every seven years on the seventh year. The reasons for this is because the spirit of the earth has to rest. The animals have to be let to rest rather than being beast of burden unnecessarily for land being developed continuously as people are made to unnecessarily work for excess and expediency and to benefit the few and wealthy. God has commanded this for a important reason as to the yield may remain in balance to man, animals, and God's will for the needs of the earth and honoring man with his proper lot and responsibility, along with the year of rest to man which is also of accord and appreciation from God.

Instead of legitimate or sincere necessity but simply out of tradition of man and business,
A man owns many homes, although he only lives in one, he can own many beds but sleep only in one, same goes for anything else, a car, a guitar.
Lest power be abused for vanity, if evil endeavors of men are denied to occur, then yes its this very thing which conspiracy is referring to.

I have worked as a banquet server back in my day from 2008-2020 and had seen a common industry practice amongst both catering businesses, event halls, and restaurants as well. Endless amounts of food are thrown into the garbage that was prepared on that same day and written off as hazardous, or unsafe, unethical to provide it to homeless or people in need or even the employees themselves who had served the food to customers or guests, More than the Majority of food is thrown away everyday of every passing year because of the legal note that its a liability risk while provisions had not been made to allow simple agreements for the distribution of this food by being made acceptable to feed to a person by simple safety food consumption standards that address that the person is willing to eat food that has been properly managed, stored, and transported within said day of preparation. All the while its of no great declaration of pronounce importance to defend or protect people from taking a vaccination that the government themselves warn is not within the confines of having responsibility over the effects or answer to consequential results on the population, or at least there having been raised enough awareness that yes, there is general agreement that it may not be safe, honestly.
So feeding people food, somehow too risky, and we have to remain on the obvious elephant in the room notion that yes, endless amounts of food is going to waste which is creating this entire problem to begin with due to some enterprising monopolies not wanting to let go of a dollar, better yet their monopolies on the food itself, regardless of its worth and value.
And at the same time we create a land developing agricultural system that is more for the sake of its owners profit of excessive abundance or wealth. So the people, the land including the ocean and fresh water, and animals that are raised are all being made disposable subject of exploitation and abuse for the ambition of some prideful men and women, that may say otherwise than its for vanity.

Because in all truth it is.

The point is that the Sabbath was placed for our own good, for the reason that we may not lose the plot to life into a ever escalating crescendo that ends in disaster.

There are those who see it fit to destroy Gods Holy Creation while making their political movements claiming that they are in favor of doing what is good for the planet and its people and animals. But since when is there no liars on the face of the earth, rumors, and the use of sensationalism which have compromised the biggest news establishments for journalism in character and affiliation as to what they do, and to what agenda under the pretense that its to report truth.

I don't mean to bring this up but we're on a christian forum and somehow were suppose to deny the existence of evil. Whether it be of man, supernatural, or even the nature of consequence as having a evil result due to responsibilities being misused and misdirected while blaming the innocent in the matter as being the culprit simply because of being involved by the hand of the ones who had done it, more specifically with the intention to do so.

The Sabbath was made for man, which is why we respect it. Because its for our sake.
When Jesus was confronted by pharisees stating that His disciples must follow tradition or pay a penalty for being unlawful by grabbing a kernel of corn as He passed through a field and considered it theft, or healing in the synogogue and calling it blasphemy.
It becomes clear the hyporcrisy that was being presented by pharisees.

Today's situation is more complex in nature due to our misdirection in guidelines. Given they were not given by men for some effort to insult a man's intelligence and have him work for unprofitable gain under a ruze of being somehow worthwhile. But for the very sake of benefiting all.

In the year that land isn't developed, the soil and land is allowed to recover and replenish its fertility,
the animals are given a time of living for the sake of being alive and not property,
and people are given a time to re establish their priorities and contemplation in relationship with their people, families and the Lord.

The Sabbath, a day of respect in God's presence who's purpose is not to commemorate Him but for the very welfare and benefit to us, His creation. it may be a day or a year, or land in a seventy year cycle but the point is that it exist for a very real reason. And the reason is God. Not in word, but in truth. And to answer the question finally, that people so try to misdirect, No, Its not all about Him, Its about His message as well, and about us, His creation.

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Why are we given the Sabbath

The Sabbath was made for man, which is why we respect it. Because its for our sake.
When Jesus was confronted by pharisees stating that His disciples must follow tradition or pay a penalty for being unlawful by grabbing a kernel of corn as He passed through a field and considered it theft, or healing in the synogogue and calling it blasphemy.
It becomes clear the hyporcrisy that was being presented by pharisees.

The Sabbath, a day of respect in God's presence who's purpose is not to commemorate Him but for the very welfare and benefit to us, His creation. it may be a day or a year, or land in a seventy year cycle but the point is that it exist for a very real reason. And the reason is God. Not in word, but in truth. And to answer the question finally, that people so try to misdirect, No, Its not all about Him, Its about His message as well, and about us, His creation.

I agree that the day of rest is for our good, but as far as what had happened in Matthew 12:1-8, Jesus defended His disciples that were profaning the sabbath by citing 2 examples in the O.T. by how the saints had profaned the sabbath but were guiltless because they were in the Temple and then in defending His disciples, He had said One greater than the Temple was here, inferring Himself, for why and how His disciples were guiltless for profaning the sabbath.

Having been saved since having believed in the Lord Jesus Christ & that God has raised Him from the dead, our physical bodies become the Temple of the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

2 Corinthians 13: 5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

This is how saved believers are guiltless for profaning the sabbath today for why we are not to judge a believer if they regard the sabbath day or not.

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

Colossians 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The 4th commandment was not done away with for why believes are actually profaning the sabbath when working that day, but still, Jesus Christ is in us for why we are guiltless for He has saved us for why He is able to make us stand.

If any one is still trying to wrap their heads around this, let's look at scripture of what the Jews were keeping the ten commandments for; to obtain eternal lie. Jesus did confirm this to be true for under the Old Covenant.

Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

So man cannot save themselves under the Old Covenant for why it is God's turn to save man under the New Covenant for all those who believe in Him, even in His name, to be saved.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

A pastor that I used to work with, had shared with me how his son wounded up in the hospital in having hallucinations for working 7 straight days a week for quite a period of time. So there is a necessity to see just cause to have a day of rest each week, but it an be on the Sunday which is the Lord's day for when the disciples & the church gathered together to break bread and hold fellowship and take collection for support of the missionaries in the field.

Verse 6 signifies that the breaking of bread in verse 7 was not in regards to the days of the unleavened bread since it was afterwards and on the first day of the week,

Acts 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days. 7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Below are the verses about Paul having given orders to all churches to set aside a portion from the bounty collected at church service so there would no special collection or gathering when Paul or any other missionaries come.

1 Corinthians 16:1Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

So one can regard any day they wish to honor the Lord and choose any day to rest in as employment allows, for we are saved and we do need to be mindful in taking care of ourselves as well. May we trust the Lord to help us do this. Amen
 
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The Hebrew word for " sleeping or resting " is expressed in two words


נוּחַ “ - nûach . noo'-akh “ - meaning = to rest, settle down ; let fall down, comfort, lay down, let down, quiet down

and

שֵׁנָה - shênâh . shênâ' - meaning = literally to sleep​


However “ וישׁבת “ is the Hebrew word - shâbath - this is the Hebrew word used in - Gen 2:2


::2 on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he “ RESTED “ on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Here are all of the passages where this same exact Hebrew word " וישׁבת " is used - and what this word means in the manuscript intent.

Gen 2:2 rested - Gen 2:3 rested - Gen 8:22 cease - Exo 5:5 rest - Exo 12:15 put away - Exo 16:30 rested - Exo 23:12 rest - Gen 27:44 wait - Exo 31:17 rested - Exo 34:21 rest - Gen 45:10 stay / dwell - Lev 2:13 lacking - Lev 23:32 rest, - Lev 25:2 keep - Lev 25:18 stay / dwell -Lev 26:6 rid - Lev 26:34 rest - Lev 26:35 rest - Deu 32:26 cease - Jos 5:12 ceased - Jos 22:25 cease - Rth 4:14 left - 2Ki 23:5 put down - 2Ki 23:11 took away - 2Ch 16:5 cease -2Ch 36:21 kept Sabbath - Neh 4:11 cease - Neh 6:3 cease - Job 32:1 ceased - Psa 8:2 still -Psa 46:9 cease - Psa 89:44 cease - Psa 119:119 puttest away - Pro 18:18 cease - Pro 22:10 cease - Isa 13:11 cease - Isa 14:4 ceased - Isa 16:10 cease - Isa 17:3 cease - Isa 21:2 cease - Isa 24:8 ceaseth - Isa 30:11 cease - Isa 33:8 ceaseth - Jer 7:34 cease - Jer 16:9 cease Jer 31:36 cease - Jer 36:29 cease - Jer 48:33 fail - Jer 48:35 cease - Lam 5:14 ceased - Lam 5:15 ceased - Eze 6:6 cease - Eze 7:24 cease - Eze 12:23 cease - Eze 16:41 cease - Eze 23:27 cease - Eze 23:48 - cease - Eze 26:13 cease - Eze 30:10 cease - Eze 30:13 cease - Eze 30:18 cease - Eze 33:28 - cease - Eze 34:10 cease - Eze 34:25 cease - Dan 9:27 cease - Dan 11:18 cease - Hos 1:4 - cecase - Hos 2:11 cease, - Hos 7:4 ceaseth - Amo 8:4 fail - -

Over 66 total passages in the Old Testament - none of them are about resting or relaxing

In fact the Hebrew word “ שָׁבַת - shâbath - is very closely resembling the word “ sleep שֵׁנָה - shênâh . shênâ' - meaning = literally to sleep,

shâbath and shênâh - but the vowel markings are the only difference - at the bottom of the characters.

also ...... - the middle character " Bet - בַ - " which is the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet in " שָׁבַת - shâbath "
and is is different

that......... the middle character " Nun -
נ - which is the fourteenth letter of the Hebrew alphabet in שֵׁנָה - sleep

and first characters of each word are different " He, hei: - ה " the fifth letter of the Hebrew alphabet
the twenty-second letter of the Hebrew alphabe
t, ...... ... Tav ת


and they are not pronounced the same and more importantly, not used in the same context at all whatsoever.

I do believe that this passage in Exo 31:17 is also mistranslated

Exo 31:17 for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed

The correct translation should say

Exo 31:17
for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he ceased his spirit - = - נָפַשׁ - nphash

The Hebrew word “
נָפַשׁ - nphash - naw-fash' - means Spirit


should not the passage reflect the original word in the manuscript -
= נָפַשׁ - nphash - saying that God ceased his - spirit - = נָפַשׁ - nphash - spirit - = נָפַשׁ - nphash - spirit

- נֶפֶש – nephesh - neh'-fesh “ means refreshed

These words are closely the same characters and almost pronounced exactly the same - why did not the translators correctly translate the passage ?


with the Sabbath, the main focus was to cease, stop, halt and finish come to an end of your labor, not so much focused upon the crawling into your bed closing the eyes and resting or sleeping all day. But preparations were to be made, everything was to be set up for the day of ceasing from labors and focus upon the Lord and his commandments.

Even the manuscripts reflect this - yet this was not the message of the translation.
 
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