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The fruit of Repentance

Brother Paul

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My dear Brothers and Sisters. Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham have all come forward and publicly admitted they lied to us all. They did it for MONEY and RATINGS. Rupert Murdoch when questioned about this said he KNEW they were lying and supported it. Many alleged religious leaders among us pushed the lies. Who is their spiritual father? Not YHVH! We know who the father of lies is and his name is Belial.

Jesus called out the religious leaders of His day identifying them as followers of Belial and demanded fruits of repentance. Are we less obligated to follow His example? Many alleged "Christians" (followers of Jesus) were beguiled by this crafty deception and many were sold the lie as if it were the truth. What should we say to our alleged "religious leaders"? Should they not show an effort to repent? Where is the fruit?

So many of us have been conned and convinced by them and now they are still supporting the lies, but why? Whitened Sepulchres full of dead men's bones! What would the actual Jesus say? "IF THEY REPENT forgive them! Do they have His Spirit (Isaiah 58:5-12). If NOT are they really His (Romans 8:9)?

Please write these alleged leaders and demand they bring forth fruits of repentance or else what can we do or say as their actions have driven so many out of the Kingdom of His dear Son.

Please share your thoughts on this matter. So many, as a result, have brought shame to the name. Where is the fruit (Matthew 25:31-46)?
 
Some of us haven't trusted any of them for a few years now. But it just goes to show, you can't trust anyone these days. :)
 
The fruits of repentance is the confessing of sins.

Was admitting the truth, not good enough for you?

All praise glory and honor be unto God
 
The fruits of repentance is the confessing of sins.

Was admitting the truth, not good enough for you?

I don't think any of them really claim to be Christians, so it doesn't matter if they confess or not, they still aren't saved if they don't know Jesus.

But repenting isn't confession. Repenting is turning away ( 180 degrees ) from "doing" the sin. If you are living an aduterous/homosexual/fornicating lifestyle...
and you ask for forgiveness every single day, but never quit living that way... you haven't repented.
 
I don't think any of them really claim to be Christians, so it doesn't matter if they confess or not, they still aren't saved if they don't know Jesus.

But repenting isn't confession. Repenting is turning away ( 180 degrees ) from "doing" the sin. If you are living an aduterous/homosexual/fornicating lifestyle...
and you ask for forgiveness every single day, but never quit living that way... you haven't repented.
John the Baptist said it best...
who has warned you vipers of the wrath to come, so therefore bringing forth fruits worthy of repentance crying out Abba Father.

We cried out Abba Father with what then, if not confessing our sins; then what?
 
The fruits of repentance is the confessing of sins.

Was admitting the truth, not good enough for you?

All praise glory and honor be unto God

When will they come out on their shows and tell the populace they conned them for their money? And though after being legally forced to admit, they did, they would not have if not sued. However, my concern is for the souls of the so-called followers of Christ and the alleged leaders that have been beguiled. Will they continue to press into Belial's game or rebuke him and admit they were misled? And YES, all glory and honor be unto GOD not the arm of flesh or mammon.
 
if not confessing our sins; then what?

Jer 8:4; "You shall say to them, 'Thus says the LORD, "Do men fall and not get up again? Does one turn away and not repent?
Jer 26:3; 'Perhaps they will listen and everyone will turn from his evil way, that I may repent of the calamity which I am planning to do to them because of the evil of their deeds.'
Ezek 14:6; "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Repent and turn away from your idols and turn your faces away from all your abominations.
Ezek 18:30; "Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, each according to his conduct," declares the Lord GOD. "Repent and turn away from all your transgressions, so that iniquity may not become a stumbling block to you.

The Bible says true repentance is "turning away" from sin. Now that doesn't mean you have to be perfect. But it does mean you can't willfully choose to live in sin everyday. Especially lifestyle sins.
What is a lifestyle sin? If I hit my thumb with a hammer and say a curse word, that's stumbling. That's not a habitual practiced sin that I plan on doing every day. If on the other hand, I'm have an adulterous or homosexual
relationship with someone, I did it yesterday, I'll do it today, and I'll do it tomorrow and the day after that... that's a lifestyle. I'm practicing it, I'm doing it everyday.
 
I don't think any of them really claim to be Christians, so it doesn't matter if they confess or not, they still aren't saved if they don't know Jesus.

But repenting isn't confession. Repenting is turning away ( 180 degrees ) from "doing" the sin. If you are living an aduterous/homosexual/fornicating lifestyle...
and you ask for forgiveness every single day, but never quit living that way... you haven't repented.

Actually Sean and Laura do claim to be followers of Jesus (as does the many religious leaders I referred to).
 
Jer 8:4; "You shall say to them, 'Thus says the LORD, "Do men fall and not get up again? Does one turn away and not repent?
Jer 26:3; 'Perhaps they will listen and everyone will turn from his evil way, that I may repent of the calamity which I am planning to do to them because of the evil of their deeds.'
Ezek 14:6; "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Repent and turn away from your idols and turn your faces away from all your abominations.
Ezek 18:30; "Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, each according to his conduct," declares the Lord GOD. "Repent and turn away from all your transgressions, so that iniquity may not become a stumbling block to you.

The Bible says true repentance is "turning away" from sin. Now that doesn't mean you have to be perfect. But it does mean you can't willfully choose to live in sin everyday. Especially lifestyle sins.
What is a lifestyle sin? If I hit my thumb with a hammer and say a curse word, that's stumbling. That's not a habitual practiced sin that I plan on doing every day. If on the other hand, I'm have an adulterous or homosexual
relationship with someone, I did it yesterday, I'll do it today, and I'll do it tomorrow and the day after that... that's a lifestyle. I'm practicing it, I'm doing it everyday.
yes one must turn away or turn around as you said...yes
 
My dear Brothers and Sisters. Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham have all come forward and publicly admitted they lied to us all. They did it for MONEY and RATINGS. Rupert Murdoch when questioned about this said he KNEW they were lying and supported it. Many alleged religious leaders among us pushed the lies. Who is their spiritual father? Not YHVH! We know who the father of lies is and his name is Belial.

Jesus called out the religious leaders of His day identifying them as followers of Belial and demanded fruits of repentance. Are we less obligated to follow His example? Many alleged "Christians" (followers of Jesus) were beguiled by this crafty deception and many were sold the lie as if it were the truth. What should we say to our alleged "religious leaders"? Should they not show an effort to repent? Where is the fruit?

So many of us have been conned and convinced by them and now they are still supporting the lies, but why? Whitened Sepulchres full of dead men's bones! What would the actual Jesus say? "IF THEY REPENT forgive them! Do they have His Spirit (Isaiah 58:5-12). If NOT are they really His (Romans 8:9)?

Please write these alleged leaders and demand they bring forth fruits of repentance or else what can we do or say as their actions have driven so many out of the Kingdom of His dear Son.

Please share your thoughts on this matter. So many, as a result, have brought shame to the name. Where is the fruit (Matthew 25:31-46)?
Hello @Brother Paul, @watertolive, @B-A-C,

The responsibility lies with each individual believer, to ensure that he/she takes what is spoken in the pulpit, or in the teaching chair, to the written word of God: to ensure that what is being taught is in alignment with what is written there: taking into account not only 'what is written', 'to whom', 'with what words', but also, 'at what time', 'where', and 'with what intent', 'with what circumstance', 'considering what goes before and what follows'*. To ensure that what is being taught is applicable. For though all Scripture is for our learning, not all is about us.

Teachers and religious Leaders only have the power and authority that we allow them to have over us. The responsibility for what we believe, before God, is our own.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

* Ref:- The points in italics above are taken from a quotation by Miles Coverdale (1488-1569), on how to study God's word.
 
Hello @Brother Paul, @watertolive, @B-A-C,

The responsibility lies with each individual believer, to ensure that he/she takes what is spoken in the pulpit, or in the teaching chair, to the written word of God: to ensure that what is being taught is in alignment with what is written there: taking into account not only 'what is written', 'to whom', 'with what words', but also, 'at what time', 'where', and 'with what intent', 'with what circumstance', 'considering what goes before and what follows'*. To ensure that what is being taught is applicable. For though all Scripture is for our learning, not all is about us.

Teachers and religious Leaders only have the power and authority that we allow them to have over us. The responsibility for what we believe, before God, is our own.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

* Ref:- The points in italics above are taken from a quotation by Miles Coverdale (1488-1569), on how to study God's word.

True. And as Paul says, address them personally and if they do not listen bring it before the Church and then if they do not repent have nothing more to do with them.

Give them up to God! If they are born of Him He can handle His own children in His way and time. I am praying for all who were deceived. May the Lord have mercy on us all. See what Jesus says in Matt. 1815 thru 20. I know that those who are our family are covered by the blood but they need to speak out for those who are not.
 
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Hello @Brother Paul,

I have not read news of this case you are highlighting: so, would you mind telling me please, just what error they preached?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
I have not read news of this, so, would you mind telling me please, just what error they preached?

They aren't preachers. They are news analysts/commentary personalities. Here in the US there about 5 "major" news broadcast companies. ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN .. and FOX.
All of them usually lean towards the left/liberal/democratic party and support the Clinton/Obama/Biden administration. FOX has "pretended" to lean towards the right/conservative/republican party
and support the Trump administration. The confession wasn't really about any false "religious/Biblical" teaching, but rather false support for the "other" party.

It is a well known fact that conservative broadcasts, outperform liberal broadcasting by a large margin. That means more clients, more advertisers, more... MONEY.
So these personalities pretended to be conservative.. in order to get more money. They lied to people.

To myself, this isn't that big of deal. I haven't trusted FOX ( or any of them ) in years. There are too many other political/moral issues they have ignored on purpose over the last decade or so.
It seems the primary purpose of the News companies here in the US is to create division and unrest among the people.

Psa 118:8; It is better to take refuge in the LORD Than to trust in man.
 
They aren't preachers. They are news analysts/commentary personalities. Here in the US there about 5 "major" news broadcast companies. ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN .. and FOX.
All of them usually lean towards the left/liberal/democratic party and support the Clinton/Obama/Biden administration. FOX has "pretended" to lean towards the right/conservative/republican party
and support the Trump administration. The confession wasn't really about any false "religious/Biblical" teaching, but rather false support for the "other" party.

It is a well known fact that conservative broadcasts, outperform liberal broadcasting by a large margin. That means more clients, more advertisers, more... MONEY.
So these personalities pretended to be conservative.. in order to get more money. They lied to people.

To myself, this isn't that big of deal. I haven't trusted FOX ( or any of them ) in years. There are too many other political/moral issues they have ignored on purpose over the last decade or so.
It seems the primary purpose of the News companies here in the US is to create division and unrest among the people.
Thank you, @B-A-C,

So this has to do with secular society and not the church? Since when has the church been caught up in the affairs of this life? The friendship of the world is enmity with God .

'No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life;
that he may please Him who hath chosen Him to be a soldier.'
(2 Tim. 2:4)

:no_mouth:
 
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Hello @Brother Paul,

I have not read news of this case you are highlighting: so, would you mind telling me please, just what error they preached?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
B-A-C summarized it nicely and as a result some of our religious leaders went off the deep end. One Texas megachurch pastor told his congregation it is time to lock and load. Another told their University students that if they are Christians they must vote for what turns out to be the goats (Matt. 25). And more. I am trying to avoid names thinking people pay attention to all sides, but I guess we don't. Do we want to support the goats? They are the opposite of the Biblical Jesus.
 
It is a difficult dilemma. Do we vote for the goats, or the Satanists?

Both are unbelievers, but I do not see any difference. There are those in both these camps who are either. We could start voting for third party (any other) persons but we now have 6 or 7 goat states that no longer allow you to vote for anyone other than one of the two they have chosen for us to choose from (hence robbing us of real choice).

But JESUS wants us to love God with all our hearts souls and minds and then ALSO our neighbor as ourselves. What does this mean? We, His body, are called to be as He was/is. He cared for the poor, encouraged us to feed the hungry, take care of the fatherless and the widows, was willing to heal those that are sick, worked to set the oppressed free. Can we do that? Shouldn't we support these efforts, in His name, and not those who thwart all these things, who personally have never been supportive of these things?
 
We, His body, are called to be as He was/is. He cared for the poor, encouraged us to feed the hungry, take care of the fatherless and the widows, was willing to heal those that are sick, worked to set the oppressed free. Can we do that? Shouldn't we support these efforts, in His name, and not those who thwart all these things,

I agree with all of this. We should help the poor. But Jesus healed people so they would change. Jesus didn't hang around tax collectors and prostitutes so they could change Him. He hung around them, so He could change them!!
Most of the people coming here don't want to become Christians or become like us. They want us to become like them. Now while feeding the hungry and poor is important I agree.
Keeping people out of office who want to ban Christianity, support homosexuality, and teach transgenderism to our children is also important. If I have to make a choice between the two, I choose the children. Our children.
 
I agree with all of this. We should help the poor. But Jesus healed people so they would change. Jesus didn't hang around tax collectors and prostitutes so they could change Him. He hung around them, so He could change them!!
Most of the people coming here don't want to become Christians or become like us. They want us to become like them. Now while feeding the hungry and poor is important I agree.
Keeping people out of office who want to ban Christianity, support homosexuality, and teach transgenderism to our children is also important. If I have to make a choice between the two, I choose the children. Our children.

I also agree with this. The dilemma is that which ever group gets all the power we end up feeling the brunt of their whole agenda (most of which is played down till they get the control). The real solution would be to take down the corrupt 2 party system. If we all refused to vote for either and just vote for any other until they get the message, maybe some of them would get it. Money and votes are all they understand. In 2016 I would not vote for either of these bums. Some say my vote was wasted but if enough of us did this maybe some would get the message.
 
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