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The Multitude and the Remnant
Look in a good concordance, such as Strong's Exhaustive Concordance for the words multitude and multitudes. Multitude and multitudes are used a huge number of times in scripture. For example in Joel 3: 14 there is the metaphor of the multitudes in the valley of decision. A few of the multitude who are in the low place where they have to make a decision to seek the truth or continue in deception will leave the multitude and become a part of the remnant, who have the testimony of Jesus Christ in Revelation 12:17, and the 144,000 in Revelation 14: 1 are seen metaphorically standing on Mount Sion with Jesus Christ.
"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," II Corinthians 6: 17
Come out from among who? Come out from among the multitude, the broad way of Matthew 7: 13
"And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived." Revelation 18: 23
"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Revelation 18: 4
Come out of her to where?
."And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood..........And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12: 14-15, 17
The woman is not the church, from ekklesia, a meeting, assembly or congregation of the Body of Christ plus some who are not the elect but are interested. After the falling away the ekklesia, the church, is a tare church, with only some who belong to the Lord. Since the remnant in Revelation 12: 17 is said to be the seed of the woman in Revelation 12: 14 then the woman is not the ekklesia. It has to be the Israel of God (Galatians 6: 16), all saved people, the entire Body of Christ, all the elect.
Those called out of the ekklesia are called to the wilderness where metaphorically the woman is whose seed is the remnant.
Christ in Hebrews 13: 12-13 is said to be outside the camp. "Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach."
Christ is outside the "camp," outside the multitude of the world and of the ekklesia after the falling away and metaphorically out in the wilderness. The remnant is called out to the wilderness.
The remnant of Israel is in scripture, but there is no remnant of the church, the ekklesia.
"And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God. For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness." Isaiah 10: 20-22
Zephaniah 3: 13: "The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid."
"As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:" Romans 9: 25-27
Osee is Hosea 2: 23. Paul is talking about the Gentiles becoming part of an Israel, but not Old Covenant Israel, in the next verse he talks about the remnant of Israel being saved.
"But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace." Romans 11: 4-5
Romans 11: 4-5 is about a remnant of Old Covenant Israel which accepted Christ and were saved.
Revelation 12: 17: "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
"And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
As in Zephaniah 3: 13, where the remnant of Israel is said not to be deceptive, the 144,000 have no guile, which is deception. In contrast to the remnant who are not deceptive, Christ says in Matthew 24: "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." The false prophets are deceptive and we might infer that their followers the deceived are also deceptive. "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." II Timothy 3: 13
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Look in a good concordance, such as Strong's Exhaustive Concordance for the words multitude and multitudes. Multitude and multitudes are used a huge number of times in scripture. For example in Joel 3: 14 there is the metaphor of the multitudes in the valley of decision. A few of the multitude who are in the low place where they have to make a decision to seek the truth or continue in deception will leave the multitude and become a part of the remnant, who have the testimony of Jesus Christ in Revelation 12:17, and the 144,000 in Revelation 14: 1 are seen metaphorically standing on Mount Sion with Jesus Christ.
"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," II Corinthians 6: 17
Come out from among who? Come out from among the multitude, the broad way of Matthew 7: 13
"And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived." Revelation 18: 23
"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Revelation 18: 4
Come out of her to where?
."And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood..........And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12: 14-15, 17
The woman is not the church, from ekklesia, a meeting, assembly or congregation of the Body of Christ plus some who are not the elect but are interested. After the falling away the ekklesia, the church, is a tare church, with only some who belong to the Lord. Since the remnant in Revelation 12: 17 is said to be the seed of the woman in Revelation 12: 14 then the woman is not the ekklesia. It has to be the Israel of God (Galatians 6: 16), all saved people, the entire Body of Christ, all the elect.
Those called out of the ekklesia are called to the wilderness where metaphorically the woman is whose seed is the remnant.
Christ in Hebrews 13: 12-13 is said to be outside the camp. "Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach."
Christ is outside the "camp," outside the multitude of the world and of the ekklesia after the falling away and metaphorically out in the wilderness. The remnant is called out to the wilderness.
The remnant of Israel is in scripture, but there is no remnant of the church, the ekklesia.
"And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God. For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness." Isaiah 10: 20-22
Zephaniah 3: 13: "The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid."
"As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:" Romans 9: 25-27
Osee is Hosea 2: 23. Paul is talking about the Gentiles becoming part of an Israel, but not Old Covenant Israel, in the next verse he talks about the remnant of Israel being saved.
"But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace." Romans 11: 4-5
Romans 11: 4-5 is about a remnant of Old Covenant Israel which accepted Christ and were saved.
Revelation 12: 17: "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
"And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
As in Zephaniah 3: 13, where the remnant of Israel is said not to be deceptive, the 144,000 have no guile, which is deception. In contrast to the remnant who are not deceptive, Christ says in Matthew 24: "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." The false prophets are deceptive and we might infer that their followers the deceived are also deceptive. "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." II Timothy 3: 13
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