The New World Order

[Eric E Stahl]

The New World Order

Daniel 7:23-25
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Revelation 17:12-18
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the ***** sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the *****
, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


The one world government will not come till God causes the ten kings that devour the whole earth to give their power to the antichrist.

 

[Puddleglum]

The New World Order

Daniel 7:23-25
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Revelation 17:12-18
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the ***** sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the *****
, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


The one world government will not come till God causes the ten kings that devour the whole earth to give their power to the antichrist.

So ?
what do we do ?
just give up ?
help it along ?
are you happy with it all. or see it as great thing.

 

[amadeus2]

So ?
what do we do ?
just give up ?
help it along ?
are you happy with it all. or see it as great thing.

How about getting into God's order? If we recognize His order and are in it, why do we need to worry about any order of men or devils ever pulling us down?

"What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?" Rom 8:31

 

[Eric E Stahl]

So ?
what do we do ?
just give up ?
help it along ?
are you happy with it all. or see it as great thing.

The point is that we don't have to worry about a new world order in our time.

 

[Puddleglum]

The point is that we don't have to worry about a new world order in our time.

How is that.
Hitlers coming ? oh ok then fine all is well !
The NWO is hear at work now.

 

[christianjean]

The one world government will not come till God causes the ten kings that devour the whole earth to give their power to the antichrist.


See bold fonts.. Is this happening? Please, I need your response.

 

[Bambi]

The one world government will not come till God causes the ten kings that devour the whole earth to give their power to the antichrist.


See bold fonts.. Is this happening? Please, I need your response.

No this is not happening, because the part about the ten kings and the beast happened a long time ago. In the first century. There are several opinions about Revelation. One point is that most of Revelation was fulfilled in the first century when Nero was emperor. This view is called the Partial Preterist view. There are some that view this as heresy, I don't. I use to believe in a future fulfillment of Revelation but I don't any more. 2 Timothy 2:15

 

[Eric E Stahl]

The one world government will not come till God causes the ten kings that devour the whole earth to give their power to the antichrist.


See bold fonts.. Is this happening? Please, I need your response.

Christianjean,

I am sorry for the confusion of many opinions.

The church age believers will be taken to heaven before we have a one world government. There will be wars and other signs that come first.

 

[B-A-C]

Amen.
"The" tribulation hasn't happened yet. There isn't a one world government yet. (The Roman empire took over almost 20% of the world) You could argue it was the "known world" of the time, but even then, it was less than 50%.
There has been no time where people have had to have numbers (i.e. 6-6-6) on the foreheads and hands yet. There are many on here that don't believe in the rapture (you will get many opinions about that also) but most believe
the rapture will happen before the tribulation, but even if it is after the tribulation, it hasn't happened yet. I'm pretty sure we would know if millions of bodies came up missing all of the sudden.
The book of Revelation is usually taken literally or figuratively as a whole. Things mentioned during the great tribulation, (flying scorpion/locusts that have the power in the their sting to hurt for 6 months for example, or burning meteors falling into the sea and killing a third of mankind) simply have never been recorded in history. The the great tribulation happens, it won't be something the world thinks maybe happened to a small percentage of the population back in some forgotten era. It will affect the whole world. Shortly after the great tribulation will be the battle of Armageddon (it hasn't happened yet) and after that Christ will reign on the Earth in peace for 1000 years (it hasn't happened yet).

 

[Bambi]

Amen.
"The" tribulation hasn't happened yet. There isn't a one world government yet. (The Roman empire took over almost 20% of the world) You could argue it was the "known world" of the time, but even then, it was less than 50%.
There has been no time where people have had to have numbers (i.e. 6-6-6) on the foreheads and hands yet. There are many on here that don't believe in the rapture (you will get many opinions about that also) but most believe
the rapture will happen before the tribulation, but even if it is after the tribulation, it hasn't happened yet. I'm pretty sure we would know if millions of bodies came up missing all of the sudden.
The book of Revelation is usually taken literally or figuratively as a whole. Things mentioned during the great tribulation, (flying scorpion/locusts that have the power in the their sting to hurt for 6 months for example, or burning meteors falling into the sea and killing a third of mankind) simply have never been recorded in history. The the great tribulation happens, it won't be something the world thinks maybe happened to a small percentage of the population back in some forgotten era. It will affect the whole world. Shortly after the great tribulation will be the battle of Armageddon (it hasn't happened yet) and after that Christ will reign on the Earth in peace for 1000 years (it hasn't happened yet).

That depends on how you interpret all these things that you mentioned. 666 has been interpret as the number of a man's name. Being put on the forehead and hands may not be literal but figuratively. Meaning it could be interpret as a man's thoughts and actions.
The word "world" (oikoumene) found three times in Revelation is the same world used in Luke 2:1. So was the whole world taxed?
As you say some don't believe in the rapture. I believe it but I believe that when Jesus returns and we are raptured, we are not taken away to heaven we are changed and dwell with Christ here on earth forever. There is no second chances after for those who rejected Christ.
I would agree that Revelation should be taken literally or figuratively but which part should be taken which way? I would disagree with scorpions, locust, and meteors taken literally.
Armageddon is still another different interpretation. I believe that this battle has taken place, but not in the valley of Megiddo. I believe that it's the battle of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
Christ is reigning now.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

That depends on how you interpret all these things that you mentioned. 666 has been interpret as the number of a man's name. Being put on the forehead and hands may not be literal but figuratively. Meaning it could be interpret as a man's thoughts and actions.
The word "world" (oikoumene) found three times in Revelation is the same world used in Luke 2:1. So was the whole world taxed?
As you say some don't believe in the rapture. I believe it but I believe that when Jesus returns and we are raptured, we are not taken away to heaven we are changed and dwell with Christ here on earth forever. There is no second chances after for those who rejected Christ.
I would agree that Revelation should be taken literally or figuratively but which part should be taken which way? I would disagree with scorpions, locust, and meteors taken literally.
Armageddon is still another different interpretation. I believe that this battle has taken place, but not in the valley of Megiddo. I believe that it's the battle of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
Christ is reigning now.

The following will happen at Armageddon.


Habakkuk 3:11-13

11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.
12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.
13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people(Israel), even for salvation with thine anointed (saints); thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.

 

[Bambi]

The following will happen at Armageddon.


Habakkuk 3:11-13

11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.
12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.
13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people(Israel), even for salvation with thine anointed (saints); thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.

First thing I don't see the word Armageddon in that passage. Second, chapter 3 of Habakkuk is a prayer not a prophesy.

Thirdly when you look up in the original language the battle of Armageddon is not in a valley somewhere. It's on a mountain top. The Hebrew words mean mountain and rendezvous. And in Israel there could only be one place that the Jews would rendezvous on a mountain top, and that's Jerusalem.

717 Armageddon (ar-mag-ed-dohn');
of Hebrew origin [2022 and 4023]; Armageddon (or Har-Meggiddon), a symbol. name:
KJV-- Armageddon.

2022 har (har);
a shortened form of 2042; a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively):
KJV-- hill (country), mount (-ain), X promotion.

4023 Megiddown (Zech. 12:11) (meg-id-done');
or Megiddow (meg-id-do'); from 1413; rendezvous; Megiddon or Megiddo, a place in Palestine:
KJV-- Megiddo, Megiddon.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

First thing I don't see the word Armageddon in that passage. Second, chapter 3 of Habakkuk is a prayer not a prophesy.

Thirdly when you look up in the original language the battle of Armageddon is not in a valley somewhere. It's on a mountain top. The Hebrew words mean mountain and rendezvous. And in Israel there could only be one place that the Jews would rendezvous on a mountain top, and that's Jerusalem.

717 Armageddon (ar-mag-ed-dohn');
of Hebrew origin [2022 and 4023]; Armageddon (or Har-Meggiddon), a symbol. name:
KJV-- Armageddon.

2022 har (har);
a shortened form of 2042; a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively):
KJV-- hill (country), mount (-ain), X promotion.

4023 Megiddown (Zech. 12:11) (meg-id-done');
or Megiddow (meg-id-do'); from 1413; rendezvous; Megiddon or Megiddo, a place in Palestine:
KJV-- Megiddo, Megiddon.

Habakkuk 3:1-16
1 A prayer of Habakkuk the prophet upon Shigionoth. 2 O LORD, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O LORD, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.


(((The following verses are about God's prophecy and vision which he told and showed to Habakkuk. )))



3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power.
5 Before him went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet.
6 He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting.
7 I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction: and the curtains of the land of Midian did tremble.
8 Was the LORD displeased against the rivers? was thine anger against the rivers? was thy wrath against the sea, that thou didst ride upon thine horses and thy chariots of salvation?
9 Thy bow was made quite naked, according to the oaths of the tribes, even thy word. Selah. Thou didst cleave the earth with rivers.
10 The mountains saw thee, and they trembled: the overflowing of the water passed by: the deep uttered his voice, and lifted up his hands on high.
11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.
12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.
13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.
14 Thou didst strike through with his staves the head of his villages: they came out as a whirlwind to scatter me: their rejoicing was as to devour the poor secretly.
15 Thou didst walk through the sea with thine horses, through the heap of great waters.

16 When I heard, my belly trembled; my lips quivered at the voice: rottenness entered into my bones, and I trembled in myself, that I might rest in the day of trouble: when he cometh up unto the people, he will invade them with his troops.

 

[Bambi]

Habakkuk 3:1-16
1 A prayer of Habakkuk the prophet upon Shigionoth. 2 O LORD, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O LORD, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.


(((The following verses are about God's prophecy and vision which he told and showed to Habakkuk. )))



3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power.
5 Before him went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet.
6 He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting.
7 I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction: and the curtains of the land of Midian did tremble.
8 Was the LORD displeased against the rivers? was thine anger against the rivers? was thy wrath against the sea, that thou didst ride upon thine horses and thy chariots of salvation?
9 Thy bow was made quite naked, according to the oaths of the tribes, even thy word. Selah. Thou didst cleave the earth with rivers.
10 The mountains saw thee, and they trembled: the overflowing of the water passed by: the deep uttered his voice, and lifted up his hands on high.
11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.
12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.
13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.
14 Thou didst strike through with his staves the head of his villages: they came out as a whirlwind to scatter me: their rejoicing was as to devour the poor secretly.
15 Thou didst walk through the sea with thine horses, through the heap of great waters.

16 When I heard, my belly trembled; my lips quivered at the voice: rottenness entered into my bones, and I trembled in myself, that I might rest in the day of trouble: when he cometh up unto the people, he will invade them with his troops.

Nope I would disagree.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

Nope I would disagree.

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Habakkuk 3:1-16
1 A prayer of Habakkuk the prophet upon Shigionoth.
2 O LORD, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O LORD, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.

(((The following verses are about God's prophecy and vision which he told and showed to Habakkuk. )))



3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power.


(next the first vial judgment Revelation 16:2)
5 Before him went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet.


(Revelation 16:20 7th vial)
6 He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting.
7 I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction: and the curtains of the land of Midian did tremble.


(Revelation 16:4, 3rd vial)
8 Was the LORD displeased against the rivers? was thine anger against the rivers?


(Revelation 16:3 2nd vial)
was thy wrath against the sea, that thou didst ride upon thine horses and thy chariots of salvation?
9 Thy bow was made quite naked, according to the oaths of the tribes, even thy word. Selah. Thou didst cleave the earth with rivers.
10 The mountains saw thee, and they trembled: the overflowing of the water passed by: the deep uttered his voice, and lifted up his hands on high.


(Revelation 16:10-11 5th vial is a permanent solar eclipse over Israel which will be the seat of the beast Daniel 11:45)
11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.


(Revelation 16:16 6th vial men to Armageddon for judgment)
12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.
13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.
14 Thou didst strike through with his staves the head of his villages: they came out as a whirlwind to scatter me: their rejoicing was as to devour the poor secretly.
15 Thou didst walk through the sea with thine horses, through the heap of great waters.

16 When I heard, my belly trembled; my lips quivered at the voice: rottenness entered into my bones, and I trembled in myself, that I might rest in the day of trouble: when he cometh up unto the people, he will invade them with his troops.