The Rapture Is When the Bridegroom as God Judges His House First

[GodB4Us]

The rapture is when God will judge His House first when He comes as the Bridegroom.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

Those who get left behind, the Lord is faithful in doing a good job in keeping their souls while they suffer that fire coming on the third of the earth and the rest in the coming great tribulation as a result.

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

In that day, He will judge every believer by what they have built on that foundation and any one defiles that temple of God which is our physical bodies, He will destroy it with physical death.

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

An example is how Jesus warned the church at Thyatira to repent or else be cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation.

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

If there be any work of iniquity that denies Him, He will deny them, but even if He denies former believers, He still abides in them that get left behind too.

Titus 1: 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. 11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

Paul gives an example of a former believer and why even they are still His, having that foundation sure as well as that seal of adoption that is not going anywhere, for why they are still to be called to depart from iniquity also.

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

The race is not for obtaining salvation because those left behind are still saved, but we labor to be accepted by Him as that vessel unto honor in His House to attend the Marriage Supper in Heaven.

Think of it in this way, what the church failed to excommunicate an unrepentant believer, God will do it at the rapture event.

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

The prodigal son may have given up his first inheritance for wild living and can never get it back, but he is still son. That is why there are vessels unto dishonor in His House still, vessels of wood & earth, as they will testify to the power of God in salvation for all those that believe in Him, even in His name. Nevertheless, while we still have time, may the Lord lead us to call every believer to go to Jesus Christ fr help in getting them ready to go by abiding in Him & His words.

Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

1 John 3: 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

2 Timothy 4: 18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

 

[Bethel]

The rapture is when God will judge His House first when He comes as the Bridegroom.

The Bema seat (judgement seat of Christ) is heading for all believers.
Its where Christ , who is our Righteousness, will look at :"what have you done in my body".
All those works you did for God and Christ.
And what is the evaluation criteria?

Your motive for doing them.

 

[GodB4Us]

The Bema seat (judgement seat of Christ) is heading for all believers.
Its where Christ , who is our Righteousness, will look at :"what have you done in my body".
All those works you did for God and Christ.
And what is the evaluation criteria?

Your motive for doing them.

I agree that will be one way He will judge. If one runs that race to obtain salvation as for that motivation, then by that work they are denying that they are saved already since having believed in Him for why & how they are in that race. By denying Him as their Savior that they are not saved yet, then He will deny them unless they repent before the Bridegroom comes

The other way He will judge is by what we build on that foundation and that is any works of iniquity that is on that foundation that denies Him, He will again deny them which was explained in the OP.

And yet another way He will judge is how they honor the Father in worship as the only way to do that is by only honoring the Son in worship. The minute they stop honoring the Son to honor the Holy Spirit which the Holy Spirit in believers would never lead them to do that, then they have stopped honoring the Father in worship & climbed up another way around the Son to the Father by way of the Holy Spirit which is a work of iniquity in and of itself.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

John 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

The way has been broadened by including the worship of the Holy Spirit with the Father & he Son, thus allowing seducing spirits to come in when the focus is on the Spirit to cause many to fall and chase after them to visit again for a sign per Matthew 7:13-27 The Nicene creed of 381 A.D. was ecumenical in nature as gathering grapes of thorns and figs of thistles and this has allowed a thief to break through, causing many to lose self control & fall and so the solution is to narrow the way back to the straight gate by keeping the focus and the spotlight only on the Son in worship to honor the Father thereby; Luke 13:24-30 as that is the mind of Christ Paul wants us to have in obedience in his absence. Philippians 2:5-13

And yet there is another way He will judge the believer in that they may love this life to not be willing to go. That is the whole point of referring to Lot's wife in Luke 17:26-37 in how believers can love their lives on earth that they would not want to leave it for the Marriage Supper above ( Luke 14:15-24 ) as that is the cost of discipleship is really all about ( Luke 14:25-35 ) The cares of this life can be a snare to believers for why they should pray for help to escape; Luke 21:33-36

Thank you for sharing. May God cause the increase as He may lift the heads of all to the Son in hoping in Him to have them ready & willing to go before the Bridegroom comes.

 

[Bethel]

I agree that will be one way He will judge. If one runs that race to obtain salvation

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Salvation is not a race a person runs.........as you can do that without Jesus, and many do, who are on their way to hell, thinking that if they try hard enough to be "Christ Like", then in the end, once dead, God will DECIDE.

No.
The Decision God makes to let you into His family is created by God , as Christ, on the Cross.
See that SAVIOR on the CROSS? There is the FINISH LINE.......its HIM.......It His Blood.........and that is all that God offers us that HE will accept, to accept us.

Let me show you something interesting.., GodB4Us.

Take Jesus off the Cross, and put Him back into Heaven.

Now, go and run your race, and endure to the end, and give to the poor, and be a good church member, and graduate from seminary, and start your own Christian forum, and dont forget to be water baptized 20 ro 30 times..

Now, , after you do all that for 87 yrs...............why are you still not saved?

I'm going to let you figure that out..........but here is a hint....(No Cross, No Christ, No Salvation).

 

[GodB4Us]

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Salvation is not a race a person runs.........as you can do that without Jesus, and many do, who are on their way to hell, thinking that if they try hard enough to be "Christ Like", then in the end, once dead, God will DECIDE.

No.
The Decision God makes to let you into His family is created by God , as Christ, on the Cross.
See that SAVIOR on the CROSS? There is the FINISH LINE.......its HIM.......It His Blood.........and that is all that God offers us that HE will accept, to accept us.

Let me show you something interesting.., GodB4Us.

Take Jesus off the Cross, and put Him back into Heaven.

Now, go and run your race, and endure to the end, and give to the poor, and be a good church member, and graduate from seminary, and start your own Christian forum, and dont forget to be water baptized 20 ro 30 times..

Now, , after you do all that for 87 yrs...............why are you still not saved?

I'm going to let you figure that out..........but here is a hint....(No Cross, No Christ, No Salvation).

I do not believe you had read my whole reply. You cut it off, but what you did leave in the quote should have told you I was speaking against running that race to obtain salvation. Read the whole comment please.

" If one runs that race to obtain salvation ...." as for that motivation, then by that work they are denying that they are saved already since having believed in Him for why & how they are in that race. By denying Him as their Savior that they are not saved yet, then He will deny them unless they repent before the Bridegroom comes

So I agree that "if" that was the motivation for running that race to obtain salvation, then by that race, they are denying Him as their Savior, and makes everyone wonder what the Good News in Christ Jesus to man was all about.

So that can be one of the judgments for how one's motivation for running that race that if it be for obtaining salvation, when they are actually saved since having believed in Him, Jesus will deny them attendance to the Marriage Supper above. Kind of like being there at the reception without his wedding garment on, and wind up being left behind in shame as a vessel unto dishonor for denying Him as Savior when he was saved all along.

 

[Bethel]

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So that can be one of the judgments for how one's motivation for running that race that if it be for obtaining salvation, when they are actually saved since having believed in Him, Jesus will deny them attendance to the Marriage Supper above.

Let me ask you a question..

Being that there is no verse, or chapter in any New Testament, ever written........that says........>Jesus will deny you the Marriage supper, if you try to save yourself, after you are saved".

There is no verse that says that, and there is no chapter that says, "Jesus will deny you".........if you are born again.
So, you made this up, or you have a horrible commentary that made this up, or you belong to a denomination that made this up.

ITS MADE UP THEOLOGY.

There is only one verse that says that Jesus will deny someone, and its this one........"Depart from me i never KNEW YOU"..........and that is not talking to a Christian, as Christ would be lYING to say ..." i never knew you"""", when in fact CHRIST lives in every born again Christians......>"Christ IN YOU the Hope of Glory"......>"In Christ".....>"One with GOD"

So, God and Christ definitely KNOW YOU< if they LIVE IN YOU>.............

Now, where are you getting your interesting theology, as its not from a Bible.

 

[GodB4Us]

Now, where are you getting your interesting theology, as its not from a Bible.

Care to address the scriptures given in the OP? There are other scriptures. You may even know them but believe they only apply to false believers or that they were not really saved. Okay then, let the Lord lead us in this discussion.

There are saved believers in India that have undergone persecution where they sought to save their own lives by denying Christ and converting to Hinduism, and even made them eat cooked camel dung. Now according to His words, we have this warning.

Matthew 10: 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. 32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

So are these once saved believers that are now denying Him before men are going to "hell" for trying to save their own lives? Before you answer that, you should check the Greek from which hell was translated from in English.

The Greek term that "hell" was translated from in English is "geena" or "Gehenna". According to scripture, the Lord calls it "the valley of slaughter" which is a location on earth; not the after life that is called hell.

Jeremiah 19:6 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that this place shall no more be called Tophet, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley of slaughter.

Strong's Concordance was obviously influenced by external teachings to apply that also to the afterlife. but since scripture refers to that place as being on earth, then that is what Jesus is referring to as a valley of slaughter on earth.

The destruction of the body & soul where soul is not the same thing as spirit, but the vitality of that believer, is what I believe referring to that eternal inheritance of that believer. All believers are given the promise of the first fruits of the resurrection just as they are all invited to the Marriage Supper above, but if they defile that temple of God and still in that iniquity when the Bridegroom comes, they will get left behind ( Revelation 2:18-25 ) for when that temple, their physical bodies, God will destroy ( 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 ), but the spirit is still saved ( 1 Corinthians 3:15 ) in that day when the Bridegroom judges His House first ( 1 Corinthians 3:13 & 1 Peter 4:17 ). Hene that soul is destroyed, meaning that first inheritance they could have had if they were abiding in Him & His words, but their spirit is still saved, just as the prodigal son lost his first inheritance to wild living and can never get it back, but he is still son.

If you consider that those left behind are still saved, then fathom with Him the loss of that soul, that vitality of the spirit, as a damnation or condemnation within that body of Christ that walked after the flesh because there are vessels unto dishonor in His House, vessels of wood & earth per 2 Timothy 2:20. Since the vessels unto honor are the ones that departed from iniquity per 2 Timothy 2:21 which means the vessels unto dishonor did not, for why they are the vessels unto dishonor in His House as vessels of wood & earth that will testify to the power of God in salvation for God to save those that believe in Him, even in His name. John 1:12-13 1 Corinthians 1:17-18 & 1 Corinthians 1:21

Confirmation in scripture about a lesser eternal inheritance in the kingdom of heaven is by looking at the least in the kingdom of heaven for why they are called the least in Matthew 5:19 and that is because they broke the least of His commandments and taught others so.

The vessels unto honor, the vessels of gold & silver, are the first fruits of the resurrection as they will be as the angels that never die and never marry and attend the Marriage Supper in Heaven and have a mansion in the Father's House.

Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

The vessels unto dishonor, the vessels of wood and earth, are left behind for not being ready as found abiding in Him & His words for why they are dishonorable, but they will be resurrected after the great tribulation to serve the King of kings on earth in representing Him & that City of God from all over the world, and although the power of the second death will not be over them, this indicates the power of the first death still does for why they and the future generations coming from them has to eat from the tree of life in that City of God New Jerusalem on earth during the 1000 year reign of Christ. Revelation 20:1-6 & Revelation 2:7 & Revelation 22:2 & Revelation 22:14

Now for scripture where Jesus cuts off disciples that stop abiding in Him & Hs words; note verse 6 in John 15:1-8

Note how He still calls them servants for why they are getting stripes per the knowledge they had for not being ready and lesser stripes for knowledge they did not have for not being ready. but they are getting stripes for not being ready as His disciples in Luke 12:40-49 as they will get cut off from attending the Marriage Supper above to have their "portions" with unbelievers thus the ones cut off are believers as they are with the unbelievers on earth for when that fiery calamity comes on the third of the earth ( Revelation 8:7-13 & 2 Peter 3:3-18 & Luke 17:26-37 ) that will serve as a catalyst for the coming great tribulation and the mark of the beast system to survive in the New World Order.

We see Jesus's warning to the church in Thyatira to repent of her fornication or else be cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation in Revelation 2:18-25

So if you doubt what I saw is not from the Bible, then address Revelation 2:18-25 then, if nothing else, because it is in the Bible of Jesus warning believers & churches to be ready as found abiding in Him or else be left behind.

 

[Bethel]

Care to address the scriptures given in the OP? There are other scriptures.

You are a "No heller"........ that said the Lord is "leading your discussion", yet, Jesus taught more about Hell then he taught about Heaven.
Why dont you know that?

Also...before Christ was virgin born, God said that Hell is created for the devil and his angels., that you think is not related to "the lake of fire", which i assume you also deny exits..

 

[GodB4Us]

You are a "No heller"........ that said the Lord is "leading your discussion", yet, Jesus taught more about Hell then he taught about Heaven.
Why dont you know that?

Also...before Christ was virgin born, God said that Hell is created for the devil and his angels., that you think is not related to "the lake of fire", which i assume you also deny exits..

I believe in the hell of the after life and the lake of fire that the after life hell will be thrown into, but there is a misconception of the English word "hell" that is translated from "geena" or Gehenna from the Greek which is not the hell of the afterlife, but the hell on earth.

An example of how God is talking about sending His wrath on a sinful nation on the earth to the lowest hell as in the lowest valley, and extends to the foundations of e mountains even.

Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith. 21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. 22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains. 23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them. 24 They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust. 25 The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs.

As it is Gehenna is a place of refuse on the earth where the corpses are burning and the worms do not die and the fire are not quenched, because of the additional waste that is put into it. Granted when that fire comes on the third of the earth, after the great tribulation, it will end because God will make a new heaven and a new earth.

 

[Bethel]

As it is Gehenna

Thats a trash dump.
My home in Israel, so, i can tell you for certain.

Here is the thing.

Would God send the Devil and His angels to a Trash Dump?

So, the commentary that told you that, or the denomination that teaches that, needs to be in the trash dump., as that is where trash belongs.

 

[GodB4Us]

Thats a trash dump.
My home in Israel, so, i can tell you for certain.

Here is the thing.

Would God send the Devil and His angels to a Trash Dump?

So, the commentary that told you that, or the denomination that teaches that, needs to be in the trash dump., as that is where trash belongs.

Gehenna is a trash dump on earth. The Lord also refers to Gehenna as the valley of slaughter & that is on earth also.

Jeremiah 19:6 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that this place shall no more be called Tophet, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley of slaughter.

Therefore any reference to Gehenna by Jesus is a hell on earth, not the hell in the afterlife. The place where the fire does not quench and the worms do not die, is referring to their existence off of dead bodies and not souls in torment.

 

[Bethel]

Gehenna is a trash dump on earth.

Yes, its a trash heap.

Whereas Hell, is waiting for Christ Rejectors who died today, yesterday, and tomorrow.

 

[Bill]

Thats a trash dump.
My home in Israel, so, i can tell you for certain.

Here is the thing.

Would God send the Devil and His angels to a Trash Dump?

So, the commentary that told you that, or the denomination that teaches that, needs to be in the trash dump., as that is where trash belongs.

If God is sending to a trash dump, it isnt a physical thing God is going to but to the persons heart.

He came for the sick and to sinners

 

[GodB4Us]

If God is sending to a trash dump, it isnt a physical thing God is going to but to the persons heart.

He came for the sick and to sinners

When you compare 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 with Revelation 2:18-24, it is a physical death, but their spirits will be with the Lord after they die; 2 Corinthians 5:7-11 to await for their resurrection after the great tribulation.

 

[Bill]

Yes, its a trash heap.

Whereas Hell, is waiting for Christ Rejectors who died today, yesterday, and tomorrow.

They can be saved still, if you only knew the Passion of Gods Great Mercy.

The flesh is only dust, but the soul is eternal

Your prayers are also eternal. The prayers you say today can be said for those in the past as well as the present and future.

To understand how this can be, you have to understand the Eternity of God.

Think of a circle , no beginning and no end. So saying a prayer for someone of your past would be in the PRESENT of God who is all past present and future at the same time