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The sign of the Son of man

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Jesus said in
Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”

This event is also spoken of here in
Revelation 1:7
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eyeshall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”

The clouds that come with Christ represents the saints as is written in Jude 14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,”

But there shall also be a sign in heaven marking this event. I believe it will a very bright and glorious star, like the one that marked Jesus’ birth. But Jesus also said his coming would be like the rising sun here in
Matthew 24:27
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”

But whatever the sign is, we are told every eye shall see it. But there is also other events that will mark Christs coming. Notice in the first verse I posted above, Jesus said the tribes of the earth shall mourn.

This prophecy is shown here in Zechariah 12:8-14 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.”

This prophecy above shows it is speaking about the 12 tribes of Israel, and about how Gods favor shall return to flesh and blood Israel. And how God will protect Israel when the nations shall be gathered against Jerusalem.

God will pour out His Spirit on Israel, and they will then realize that Jesus Christ was the Messiah prophesied to come, and this is why they will be mourning.

This event was also spoken of by Paul here in Romans 11:25-27For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.”

And here is where Paul is getting that from in Isaiah 59:19-21So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.

20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.
21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.”

So this event will be marked by a sign in heaven that every eye shall see. And it will be marked by the gathering of the nations against Israel and Jerusalem. And it will be marked by God pouring out His Holy Spirit upon Israel.

Then shall come to pass this saying of Jesus “Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”

Peace and God bless.

 
More info on the battle of the great day of God Almighty...

In Joel 3:12 we hear of another valley, which is called the valley of Jehoshaphat which is located between the old temple mount and the Mount of Olives.

The Lord says that here is the place he shall gather the heathen together round about, and here is the place that he shall judge them in Joel 3:11-14 “ Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O Lord.12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.” By the way Jehoshaphat means the Lord Judges.

Now listen to the next couple of verses in Joel 3:15-16 “The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.16 The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.”

That is the 6th seal sign we discussed earlier in our past studies. I believe this event marks the “fullness of the Gentiles” period as was spoken of by both Jesus and Paul. This is what I call the parting of 2 ways, where one way ends and another begins.

We know by scripture that the nations shall be gathered together once again against Jerusalem, and we see signs of this taking shape even now. Zechariah chapter 14 is a good chapter to read concerning the coming of the Lord with all His saints. The Lord also speaks of a plague in Zechariah 14:12-13

"And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.”

The flesh being consumed from off their bodies while they are still on their feet sounds like either nuclear war, or perhaps even an asteroid, or perhaps some other super natural power the Lord will consume them with.

This turning ever man’s hand against his neighbor was also shown several times in scripture, like in the story of Gideon in Judges 7:22 “And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the Lord set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath.” And also here in Isaiah 19:2 “And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.”

In a spiritual sense we are already seeing every man’s hand and sword against his neighbor as there are divisions in every country, every nation, governments, politics and religion. But no matter how it all plays out the slaughter is said to be great, and the Lord shall Glorify His Holy name in the sight of all peoples and nations.

Isaiah 13:6-13 “ Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.”
 
Now compare Joel 3 and Isaiah 13 concerning the signs in the sun, moon, and stars to Jesus’ testimony below….

Luke 21:24-28​

King James Version​

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.”

Notice the timing, the signs of the sun moon and stars happens right after the “times of the Gentiles is fulfilled”. This confirms the 6th seal signs of the same.

Also notice Jesus said in verse 26 that mens hearts will be failing them for fear. This is the same wording in Isaiah 13:7 with “every man’s heart shall melt.”
 
Jesus said in
Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”

This event is also spoken of here in
Revelation 1:7
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eyeshall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”

The clouds that come with Christ represents the saints as is written in Jude 14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,”

But there shall also be a sign in heaven marking this event. I believe it will a very bright and glorious star, like the one that marked Jesus’ birth. But Jesus also said his coming would be like the rising sun here in
Matthew 24:27
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”

But whatever the sign is, we are told every eye shall see it. But there is also other events that will mark Christs coming. Notice in the first verse I posted above, Jesus said the tribes of the earth shall mourn.

This prophecy is shown here in Zechariah 12:8-14 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.”

This prophecy above shows it is speaking about the 12 tribes of Israel, and about how Gods favor shall return to flesh and blood Israel. And how God will protect Israel when the nations shall be gathered against Jerusalem.

God will pour out His Spirit on Israel, and they will then realize that Jesus Christ was the Messiah prophesied to come, and this is why they will be mourning.

This event was also spoken of by Paul here in Romans 11:25-27For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.”

And here is where Paul is getting that from in Isaiah 59:19-21So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.

20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.
21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.”

So this event will be marked by a sign in heaven that every eye shall see. And it will be marked by the gathering of the nations against Israel and Jerusalem. And it will be marked by God pouring out His Holy Spirit upon Israel.

Then shall come to pass this saying of Jesus “Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”

Peace and God bless.

I do believe the Jerusalem he speaks of is Not the One we know, But "The NEW ONE" that comes down from The Sky, that is the one He Loves and The one The Prophets Prophesied about. for this Is The APPLE of HIS eye. which is "ADORED like a Bride" "The Bride of CHRIST" That
Earthly has no place with "THE HOLY ONE" that place we The "Sons of GOD we will live and We will Rule from There in The Millennium coming in and out as will please. After That Same City of PURE GOLD which Cannot be contaminated in which was Guarded By 12 Angels and 12 Gates that no one could come through during the Millennium but The Sons of GOD and the holy Angels and not others that are outside of The Gate of that Holy City of Pure GOLD. Outside of the gate, that we will RULE OVER, where all of The Nations of the earth will live. But they cannot come in THE HOLY CITY of GOD the unholy the flesh Cannot come into that HOLY CITY of GOD. For our New JERUSALEM is not a product of this world , this is the place that Jesus went away to prepare for us and not them. a City not made with the hands-off Man and it will not touch the contamination Dirt of EARTH, for even the very dirt we stand on is Contaminate. and Our "NEW JERUSALEM" will not Touch The Unclean Thing. The nation of ISAREL is no different than the other nations in the Eyes of GOD.

The Covenant that is being fulfilled is "Davidic Covenant" and "The ABRAHAMIC COVENANT" not the nation of Israel which was fulfilled in the Promise land with "Joshua and Caleb" and many do not see it and is written plainly in the book and says it plainly. but it is not a big thing in this day and age the church cannot come to gather on nothing in nothing not even believing that Jesus rose up from the grave and that he was The "SON of GOD" the church do not even believe that but they say they do but they don't by ways and actions! and it is nothing to argue about.

It has been a long time since I tackle this one with precise.

who believes that a dead man can come back to life, after being dead for 3 days and 3 nights and be packed and wrap with so many pound of spices, I know no one who saw it and I know no one who have said they know someone who have saw it, and I know no one who has died like that and came back. and I know of no witness that was there.
So if the Atheist do not believe it I understand or any other religion do not believe it I understand,

And I understand that no one believes me about what I say about "GOD" and Jesus Christ according what is written down in the BOOK, About why since Jesus and why he created mankind and for what purpose. does it really matter I guess not what we come will come.

At the full adoption Coronation Ceremony.
 

Romans 11​

King James Version​

11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear)unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them ( flesh and blood Israel) all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.”

We are all firstborn children of the flesh until we are born again of Gods Holy Spirit. Flesh and blood Israel shall be born again of Gods Spirit when ungodliness shall be removed from Jacob as prophesied.
 

Ezekiel 37:1-14

King James Version

37 The hand of the Lord was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord God, thou knowest.
4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.
5 Thus saith the Lord God unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord”

Hosea 13:14
I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes

For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
 

Romans 11​

King James Version​

11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear)unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them ( flesh and blood Israel) all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.”

We are all firstborn children of the flesh until we are born again of Gods Holy Spirit. Flesh and blood Israel shall be born again of Gods Spirit when ungodliness shall be removed from Jacob as prophesied.
We were chosen by GOD before there was a "Creation" before Heaven and the devil and all of the Angels of GOD He chose us before there was any kind of creation, there was not even A Future . A TRUE "HEBREW" Is not determine by a "nation" you were born in. Nothing can never be a child or GOD even a Natural born Israelite can never and has never been a "Child of The LIVING GOD" for "GOD is A SPIRIT" a natural Israelite is a creation and No creation can be a "Child Of THE LIVING GOD"
And 1 portion of A letter written to "Roman Christians" in Rome defines nothing in The Completeness of A "TRUE CHILD OF THE LIVING GOD" who is "Hidden in Christ Jesus" in" "The MYSTERION" It was written to Them, and they fully understood what The Letter to them was saying. Because God, had it written to them. it is called "The Letter to The Romans".

"To all that be in Rome, [who are] Beloved of GOD, called to be Saints. Grace to YOU and Peace from "GOD" our FATHER, and The Lord Jesus Christ" A. D. 56"
a True Hebrew is recorded before time and there is only One "TRUE ISRAEL" and HIS NAME is "Emmanuel", some call him "Joshua", Yeshua or Jesus.
And the ones who JESUS will save are the ones GOD the FATHER told Him to save and he will save everyone Of this The Father has Given HIM, By name.
"Nathaniel get up and Come follow me" When GOD give you a DIRECT COMMAND NIGHT BECOMES DAY!

There is nothing to argue about, the Marjory of Christians don't believe he is The Son of GOD anyway and each day christians believe he exist, but nothing but a Prophet, but they say he is the son of God but they don't believe it. "The Survey of The STATE of THEOLOGY" proves that every year now, and we know that has been happening since the beginning of The 19th century a known fact.

So we can say anything we want, everybody has their own personal "Theology" now and their own private form of "Biblical Hermeneutics" everybody is a "Theologian" in all the branches of "Theology Proper" that took me over 30 years to learn about. now only a few clicks to learn and put together and correct ALL others.

They know it all now, under the heading of "Theology Proper"
1. Systematic Theology
2. Christian Theology
3. Trinitarian
4. Paterology
5.Christology
6.Pheumatology
and the Minors in "Why So many Versions" and I guess The Study of Religions too, they have conquered that, I never cared to study, The Study of Religions.

They laugh at me many many years ago, so they still are laughing at me now, but now it seems they have become The Scholars in These areas in "Theology Proper". always instructing me in the ways of GOD and what the Biblical Text is saying, Strange it is. Like one person who heard me speak, I know you in high school . Where did you get all that Knowledge from, he was in Total Shock! and I Told Him I always had it, it depends, who I am around.:pensive:

And all of these Biblical Sciences they are the experts now. Oh yes it seems they are now the experts even in "Eschatology" AND "Linguistics" and Biblical Interpretations" and their "Hermeneutics" is superb and in Biblical and Theological History, but they laugh at me when I was young in the Ministry and spent so many hours in a day years upon years, But now they know it all :no_mouth: Ok But I will know, When Jesus Returns that it was all errors and a waste of over 40 plus years. and I am willing to wait until my change come to see if The shaping for what He wants me to be in "Eternity" once Clothe with "Immortality" and fit to "Rule" in "The Shared Reign" in "The Millennium KINGDOM of GOD":pensive: What He taught me was nothing but lies upon lies and man spoke the truth. and I should paid attention such people and neglect all what you spoke for a book and the late hours was nothing but filth and a bunch of lies. The is only "One WAY" and not 2 ways, One Path and There is only One FAITH, and One LORD that is True.

For my mind is set a upon Eternity, like He commanded me to do, For He is My LORD. { It took many of Studying years to come to that conclusion.} not veering from the left or to The right. and forsaking ALL! and denying myself so much pleasures for The Mortals Mind.

1 Kings 22:19
And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

Matthew 19:28
Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

New American Standard Bible Mark 10:37
They said to Him, “Grant that we may sit, one on Your right and one on Your left, in Your glory.”

1 Corinthians 6 BSB
2 Do you not know that THE SAINTS WILL JUDGE THE WORLD? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know THAT WE WILL JUDGE angels? How much more the things of this life!…

This thing is serious, "Our Sanctification" is more important than a Soup Kitchen on Planet earth and a Sunday School Bible class or a "Emily Post" language mentality. Are they important yes they are. But Do not STRAIN at a gnat and swallow a camel"

King James Bible Matthews 23:24
Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Why have set you mind on The Mortals ways, and you have been commanded to do else wise. did not THE LORD SAY:

Putting on the New Self Colossians 3:2
1Therefore, since you have been raised with Christ, strive for the things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. 2Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.3For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God


Then why are many Christians minds on Natural ISRAEL???


The world Loves its own the world will take care of its own! Natural ISRAEL is Of The WORLD! And we are not in Partnership or fellowship with he WORLD!


American Standard Version James 4:4
Ye adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore would be a friend of the world maketh himself an enemy of God.


For we are Blessed Beyond Measure and many do not even know it.! what and who we are and refused to believe The Words of GOD. and have thought it is not even worth to read the WHOLE BOOK in a orderly form and pray that GOD would Stamp it on Their very Soul! The WORD of GOD is not worth it, to them.:pensive: every Iota Dot and Tittle is not worthy to take on a task, and they will not do it for them is not worth the time, they rather go to "CANCUM" Sailing on a 7 day"Cruise-SHIP" Carnival.:pensive:

Note: the meaning of Being Blessed means, He have given us "ETERNAL LIFE" not a brand new car or good Job with retirement or good health. living in a nice neighborhood . The devil have many nice and pleasant and Luxurious neighborhoods and The finest of Schools from Grammar to University. the best of all medical Schools!



NASB 1977
And the devil said to Him, “I will give You all this domain and its glory; for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.


1 John 5:19
We know that we are of God, and that The Whole World Is Under The Power Of The Evil One.:pensive: Written "A. D. 90-95" By The Apostle John. For Jesus died and rose back to life and went back to heaven and is sitting on The throne onThe right hand of The FATHER over 55-60 year ago.

For many it is waste of their time to read the book from front to back to know it that way. With out any man made helps and man made explanations. The Bible is not worth it , And To Many, GOD is Not Able To instruct them or encourage them to do so in HIS WAYS, "GOD ALONE" "CHRIST ALONE" "TRUST ALONE" is not able.

For The GOD of this age is "
Technology" and its offsprings are "PC, CELL, Laptop. AI, Satellite, MicroChip, WEB. and The Superb "NUCLEAR" POWER!

Who would completely trust Biblical Truths and definitions coming off an computer the "WEB". Spiritual wickedness in High Places And the devil is The God of This World! Like I Have said even Christians in this day and age do not believe That Jesus Is "The SON of GOD". they only believe in stating The NAME>
"They honor me with their lips and mouths..ff.":pensive:
 
Quote “Then why are many Christians minds on Natural ISRAEL??? “ (end quote)

For me, the answer is Prophecy.
Prophecy is not "The GOOD NEWS ACCORDING TO Jesus Christ"
The Prophets knew nothing about "ETERNITY" the message that The Christ was going to Proclaim.
it was "Hidden in JESUS" the person.

God’s Final Word in His Son
Hebrews 1
1God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 3And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they. 5For to which of the angels did He ever say,
“THOU ART MY SON,
TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN THEE”?And again,
“I WILL BE A FATHER TO HIM
AND HE SHALL BE A SON TO ME”?

6And when He again brings the first-born into the world, He says,
“AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM.”

GOD NEVER CALLED AN ANGEL A SON!
 
Prophecy is not "The GOOD NEWS ACCORDING TO Jesus Christ"
The Prophets knew nothing about "ETERNITY" the message that The Christ was going to Proclaim.
it was "Hidden in JESUS" the person.

God’s Final Word in His Son
Hebrews 1
1God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 3And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they. 5For to which of the angels did He ever say,
“THOU ART MY SON,
TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN THEE”?And again,
“I WILL BE A FATHER TO HIM
AND HE SHALL BE A SON TO ME”?

6And when He again brings the first-born into the world, He says,
“AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM.”

GOD NEVER CALLED AN ANGEL A SON!
The testimony of Jesus Christ IS the Spirit of prophecy.

Revelation 19:10
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
 
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