the tongue

[Five]

I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior three years ago, but I haven't grown mature and holy. I'm a recovering alchoholic who keeps back sliding into relapse for three consecutive years now. I will get two months sober then throw in the towel thinking I'm going to return to my old way of life and everything will be different this time around and i will live a happy life. But everytime I relapse, bad things happen.. and then again i go back to Alchoholics Anymous and church. I have been in sober living three times and treatment once in the past year, all of which I packed my bags and ran away after only a few weeks.

The worst thing is..what comes out of my mouth when I get really drunk and a couple times spun in the last year. (I cant control my tongue on drugs or alchohol) I'm very familar with the bible and recovery and with that I have commited some huge sins against the Lord. I don't know if there is any worse sin then the tongue and it's proud boasts... deadly poision... talking about god to people who lack a strong mind. I've shared alot of things with people that I should've never told anyone... things the lord has done for me. I've taught other people (addicts+drunks) parts of the bible all high on meth and drunk.... believe me I had good intentions.. but i feel that it is not right to teach the name of the lord in such defeat. I shared what I know and believe, but What if somewhere amongst my rambling mouth I lied? I have spoke alot of crazy things that consume my thoughts. I feel like a murderer and I have definately ruined my reputation on the streets of my hometown and I'm pretty sure that my tongue tornadoes have spread into the recovering community of alchoholics anonymous in my hometown as well. Also, the people in Anonymous... know me as a chronic relapser... and i refuse to go back because of the negative things they have said about me because of my relapses.

Also, when I'm sober..Im very shy.. and dont talk.. so i dont see how i could've caused any problems in AA....

my plan is to save up money.. and move to a new city and try to get involved in AA there, but there is something that tells me I'm done. I have been given way to many chances..many wills of god i have failed.. And sometimes in my heart.. i feel like I shouldn't even approach him.. like maybe it's best for me to stay away from god because im scared of god for all the souls I have killed

 

[Five]

I dont know what to do...

 

[spirit1st]

Isa_58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?


Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.


Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am.

i found water only praying for HIM to help us !
And reading the Bible!

I found it only take three full days!


He said? We break every thing that holds us back!

 

[gdemoss]

I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior three years ago, but I haven't grown mature and holy. I'm a recovering alchoholic who keeps back sliding into relapse for three consecutive years now. I will get two months sober then throw in the towel thinking I'm going to return to my old way of life and everything will be different this time around and i will live a happy life. But everytime I relapse, bad things happen.. and then again i go back to Alchoholics Anymous and church. I have been in sober living three times and treatment once in the past year, all of which I packed my bags and ran away after only a few weeks.

The worst thing is..what comes out of my mouth when I get really drunk and a couple times spun in the last year. (I cant control my tongue on drugs or alchohol) I'm very familar with the bible and recovery and with that I have commited some huge sins against the Lord. I don't know if there is any worse sin then the tongue and it's proud boasts... deadly poision... talking about god to people who lack a strong mind. I've shared alot of things with people that I should've never told anyone... things the lord has done for me. I've taught other people (addicts+drunks) parts of the bible all high on meth and drunk.... believe me I had good intentions.. but i feel that it is not right to teach the name of the lord in such defeat. I shared what I know and believe, but What if somewhere amongst my rambling mouth I lied? I have spoke alot of crazy things that consume my thoughts. I feel like a murderer and I have definately ruined my reputation on the streets of my hometown and I'm pretty sure that my tongue tornadoes have spread into the recovering community of alchoholics anonymous in my hometown as well. Also, the people in Anonymous... know me as a chronic relapser... and i refuse to go back because of the negative things they have said about me because of my relapses.

Also, when I'm sober..Im very shy.. and dont talk.. so i dont see how i could've caused any problems in AA....

my plan is to save up money.. and move to a new city and try to get involved in AA there, but there is something that tells me I'm done. I have been given way to many chances..many wills of god i have failed.. And sometimes in my heart.. i feel like I shouldn't even approach him.. like maybe it's best for me to stay away from god because im scared of god for all the souls I have killed

The good news is that I doesn't sound like you have ever really known God and therefore there is hope. I am a recovering drunk myself along with being a sex addict as they call it. 8 years clean and sober. Met God in the first year. Walked with him in AA for 5 years. He took me out of there and into a Baptist Church which was full of lies like AA. I stayed there for 3 years and he has pulled me out of there. Of the 8 years that I have been walking with God, I have only really known him a short while. I was too busy talking to him and tone deaf to the pitch of his voice. All of our conversations were really one sided. Praise God that He changed all that.

Has God truly revealed to your heart that Jesus is his Son? Or have you sorta come to believe based upon your own investigations and such? No revelation = No salvation. God used AA to pretty me up a bit. Because of steps 4-9 I had officially turned to him in repentance seeking guidance but I still ran the show (Big Book chapter 3) and he was just my adviser. I later learned that God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. This isn't a one time act of bowing before him. The humble spoken of is character trait replacing pride and haughtiness of spirit to finally bring one to a place where God will help them directly.

If we continue to insist that we are God and unwilling to let him be God, then we force his hand to put down the competition. He has offered us sonship if we will bow before him in due respect following him in all his ways and forgoing our own ideas of what is right in our own eyes. There is no compromise, nor can there be as he is God and to compromise with us would be disgraceful. Either he is God or he is not. We can't have it both ways.

I pray you don't die in your current condition but he takes a hold of you and removes any pride you have so he can come in unto you.

With Love,

Gary

 

[Tribulation]

It doesn't sound like you have ever really known God.

With Love,

Gary

Gary... your words are hurtful. I don't know where you get off talking to people like you do.

IMO--- your not helping Five at all. Just kicking him while he is down.

Proverbs 24:16 "though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again"

 

[Tribulation]

I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior three years ago, but I haven't grown mature and holy. I'm a recovering alchoholic who keeps back sliding into relapse

Hey Five... just keep your head up bro! I have all sorts of friends that still need to mature in Christ.

I also know other people that have been with Christ their whole life, and they don't understand the "chains" that Satan and his demons want us in.

It's a spiritual battle. The Holy Spirit wants to dwell in us. But the demons want to feed off us.

Music often helps heal me (worship music)... Say something like Hill Song United... and just sing your head off.
And pray for His Wisdom and power.
Casting Crowns and Phillips, Craig & Dean are great worship bands too.
Reading stories of other people that have been through the same stuff as you often helps me as well.
Finding people who had the same problems I once had, and hear how they got through it all... has helped me too.

Stay strong!

 

[gdemoss]

Gary... your words are hurtful. I don't know where you get off talking to people like you do.

IMO--- your not helping Five at all. Just kicking him while he is down.

Proverbs 24:16 "though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again"

Your words "IMO" are the source of your lack of understanding what I am doing with this man. When "IMO" becomes "IHO" then I need to take heed of your words.

IHO = In HIS Opinion (Holy Spirit)

Listen to the voice of the spirit inside of you Trib....I am loving this man.

Seek to understand, not be understood,

Gary

 

[Alan C]

Condemnation

I have been a Christian for many years now. I went through a phase of thinking I had 'blown it' with God. All my past condemned me, all the mistakes, all the things I had done wrong and were getting wrong repeatedly. I knew I was 'saved' but felt God had given up on me.

Thank God He left us His word because one day I was reading the letter to the Roman's and Paul hit a dilemma, The good that I want to do I find myself not doing and the bad I don't want to do I find my self doing. (My wording of the end of chapter 7)He then goes on to give the answer which is in the good news that Jesus can deliver us from this dilemma I just described.

In chapter 8 he begins "There is,now, no condemnation to those who are in Christ" Jesus paid for all our sins and short comings once and for all, He has wiped our slate clean so we can be reinstated with God.

We have been saved, we are being saved and we will be saved. When we are 'born again' our soul is saved. the Holy Spirit then come to us and teaches new life so that when we are called by God we are complete. God has so far dealt with me mercifully and at my pace. Showing me when I needed to change I did not always listen to Him but He is patient and when I admitted I was wrong He delivered me.

The point I want to make is this. God has chosen you not the other way round. If He has chosen you then you will be delivered from what ever you have been in. God will never forsake you unless you wish it that way and also the enemy is a big liar and will attempt to throw you off the path of faith by saying you are to bad to be saved. Continue to believe and if you do fall repent and pick yourself up again. You will succeed.