The Trinity
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The exact words "Holy Trinity" do not appear in the Bible. Here is one passage, however, which mentions all three members of the Trinity.
John chapter 16:
5 "But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, "Where are You going?'
6 But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12"I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.
There is also a thread "The Triune God" by Yeshua in near the bottom of the first page of Bible Online Chat that has scripture mentioning Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in different verses.
John chapter 16:
5 "But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, "Where are You going?'
6 But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12"I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.
There is also a thread "The Triune God" by Yeshua in near the bottom of the first page of Bible Online Chat that has scripture mentioning Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in different verses.
Try reading not a passage but rather a complete book. I just read the book of Galatians. It is an Epistle from Paul to the people of Galatia and it is very interesting and talks about The Father,the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. It took me less than helf hour to read. It's only a page and ahalf. But the idea is that Almighty God is only attainible through Jesus Christ. And Jesus has risen,until He returns the Holy Spirit stands in for Him. It is the Holy Spirit that teaches you and talks to you if you truly believe in Jesus and are babtized in The Holy Spirit. Hopefully more post will fill you in more and I recomend reading the Gosple of St. John, whom I love. He talks about why men love darkness and that if you are true to yourself and fess-up to all the sins which you have commited (to yourself) and become self actualized then you will enter into the Light. Only by looking into your complete inabilities and abilities can you be truthful within yourself and you must be before you can be truthful with God Almighty. Later in the gospel Jesus says that "Those who worship God,must worship in Spirit and Truth". Please read any selection you wish but again I sugest that you read it as a book to get more of an understanding from it.As a student myself the research of all the history on the book itself is vitial for me to understand.Here is an example.
The first three gosples were written for three different sections of mankind:but The Gosple according to St.John was designed to fulfill the spiritual needs of all the people. Clement of Alexandria in about the middle of the third centurywrote"Last of all,John,observing that in the other Gospels those things were related that concerned the body(of Christ),and being persuaded by his friends and also moved by the Spirit of God,wrote a Spiritual Gospel."Concerning the difference of emphasis between each Gospel and the others,St. Gregory Nazianzen who lived in the fourth century says"Matthew wrote the wonderful works of Christ for the Jew;Mark for the Roman; Luke for the Greeks;John,a hearld,who reaches the very heavens,for all." That John "the disciple whom Jesus loved"was the author of this Gospel is the testimony of the book itself(john 21:24) and Irenaeus,the pupil of Polycarp,himself the pupil and friend of St. John says that the Apostle preached orally for sixty years after the Ascension before he was persuaded to commit his Gospel to writting. If you read this Gospel there is a tremendous amont of the message which Jesus wanted us to have contained therein. MGBY (hope I didn't bore you too much)
The first three gosples were written for three different sections of mankind:but The Gosple according to St.John was designed to fulfill the spiritual needs of all the people. Clement of Alexandria in about the middle of the third centurywrote"Last of all,John,observing that in the other Gospels those things were related that concerned the body(of Christ),and being persuaded by his friends and also moved by the Spirit of God,wrote a Spiritual Gospel."Concerning the difference of emphasis between each Gospel and the others,St. Gregory Nazianzen who lived in the fourth century says"Matthew wrote the wonderful works of Christ for the Jew;Mark for the Roman; Luke for the Greeks;John,a hearld,who reaches the very heavens,for all." That John "the disciple whom Jesus loved"was the author of this Gospel is the testimony of the book itself(john 21:24) and Irenaeus,the pupil of Polycarp,himself the pupil and friend of St. John says that the Apostle preached orally for sixty years after the Ascension before he was persuaded to commit his Gospel to writting. If you read this Gospel there is a tremendous amont of the message which Jesus wanted us to have contained therein. MGBY (hope I didn't bore you too much)
Here is another passage that incorporates the three persons of the Trinity:
"Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through Whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, character; and character, hope. Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit Who was given to us."(Romans 5:1-5)
Also in these verses from the Gospel of John:
"So Jesus said to them again, 'Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.' And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit.'"(20:21-22)
"Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through Whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, character; and character, hope. Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit Who was given to us."(Romans 5:1-5)
Also in these verses from the Gospel of John:
"So Jesus said to them again, 'Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.' And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit.'"(20:21-22)
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1 John 5:7-8
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.
Pixie, "trinity" is a Latin word used to describe how God exists in his infinite eternal being as three distinct eternal persons in objective relationship to each other who are each the one God yet not each other. We would say God exists as a personal trinity--that is how God exists. The word in the bible that says this same thing is in Romans 1:20. It is the Greek word "Theoteis," translated; divine nature or divinity. It is the rest of the verse that makes the connection to trinity because that is what one sees in the creation that God has made: space mater time exist in a triune fassion. For an elaboration of this see my artical posted in: "Polls": "do you belive in trinity". So a bible word for that would be Theoteis or Devine Nature. Theoteis has the idea of how and what the one God exists as in his eternal nature as the creator and sustainer of the spiritual and material universe we creatures live in. ...DGB
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Matthew 28:19 -pixie said:
"Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and teaching them to obey everything I commanded you."
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Hello Pixie;35125. Peace of Christ.
You can find the trinity in the bible "BECAUSE" 'IT IS NOT BIBLICAL'...that is the most lethal weapon satan has given men to keep humans entramped in his webbs.....The doctrine of the trinity takes away the only source of salvation...The Oneness of God and His Name...in the trinitrian formula for baptism there is no name., yet the bible says this; Acts 4:12 Because there is nother name given under heaven to men by which he can be saved..then we have acts 2:38 and Peter said; Repent you "ALL" and be baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus, for the remission of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit......This is the Seal to be "Sons or Daughter of God"....not in and with the trinity....HELL...is all over....so!!! stay away from it, and seek what Pleases the Lord instead from the bible.....if you want to know more about the trinity, click on Catholic Encyclopedia under Tertullian..
the maker of the doctrine of the trinity....you will find "ALL the facts from the catholic churc...Now! Are you Baptized in the Name of Jesus?..and do you keep His Sabbath? and His Law?......Do you use the name jehovah or yahwe?
Both are catholics dogmas too....
God Bless.............................................Brother James
Thank you all for this thread. This is the only part of the Christian faith I didn't understand. Now I know, thanks to you all, that the trinity is the three faces of the one Godhead. Chad, please correct me if I'm wrong. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are the three personalities of the one God.
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I saw these verses and it was the first time I had ever read it, I don't have a King James Bible, but what I found is that these verses do not show in other Bible translations, I did a simple comparison on Biblegateway.
It is so beautiful, the part that was not included in the other Bibles:
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
I checked the NIV, NASB and the Message.
It does not matter, God knows He's Word, so do we if we study it.
I have also never read that, or if I did I don't remember doing so.
You mentioned that you couldn't find it that way in the other translations, so I checked too.
The NKJ version reads exactly the same:
"For there are three that bear witness in haeven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one."
The NLT reads:
"So we have these three witnesses - the Spirit, the Water and the Blood - and all three agree."
But I am not a big fan of NLT for a lot of reasons. The other says it so much better - 1 John 5:7 is one that I most certanly will not forget!!
I am currently reading the book Unlocking the Bible. I am learning so much.
The Bible is truly the best book ever and it is written perfectly.
Love,
Your sister.
