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The Truth Hurts

Coconut

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I liked this message...even tho i`m not an American ...I can appreciate this authors views from a Biblical perspective.

The Truth Hurts: Obama and His Sheep
November 04, 2008
Written by: Brad Stine

As a Christian man, I can’t in good conscience vote for Barack Obama. His values and fruit have proven him to be antagonistic to the traditional Christian worldview. But he may become the next president, and I would be expected by God to pray for him and all leaders to make moral decisions when leading the country and to implement fair and just laws. Remember I don’t attack people, but I’m duty bound to attack ideas that fight against God’s.

My conundrum is the neo-Christian left that are voting for him. Why not consider yourself pantheistic? At least then you would be consistent with your cherry-picking form of faith, which ignores immutable truth, the standard of Jesus' message. Moral absolutes never change, which is why Jesus promised that you can gauge whether you're one of his by one simple rule: Are you hated at times? Many “Christian” lefties are nice people, though, and compromise their faith, I guess, to make it more palatable for non-believers. Meanwhile they’re shooting me and mine in the back. I have tried to imagine, based on Obama's worldview, how they have justified their approval of him. Here’s all I could come up with.

1) Seeing as how Obama will support and endorse the single most liberal abortion protection legislation in history, I guess what they’re saying is that he is actually being a man of inclusiveness and tolerance by dignifying the ancient Aztec tradition of child sacrifice in order to bring good crops upon the land. Aztecs, as we all know, have been continually maligned and ignored as a productive and important part of the American experience, and the two Aztecs left here will be able to hold their heads high again … sure Obama will be killing off potential future voters, but he’ll be long out of office by then, and besides that’s the next guy's problem.

2) As a socialist, Obama will finally make it easy for guys like me, who came from humble beginnings and made a career for ourselves by God's grace and sweat equity, to take it easy, work less and get paid anyway. I know the Bible says that those that don’t work shouldn’t eat, but with the new revised liberal/left Bible interpretation, the responsibility to care for the poor no longer means the church but instead a secular government that has proven time and again its expertise in using taxes prudently and effectively. I also will have the privilege of knowing my tax dollars are subsidizing the human sacrifices we spoke of earlier that have gone so out of fashion as of late. I’m putting this updated worldview right to work here next Halloween. I am encouraging my kids to stay home, let their friends trick or treat, and then have them stop by on their way home and drop a third of their candy in my kids’ bags. THAT is American ingenuity.

3) Obama says he’s a Christian but doesn’t believe it’s right for everyone. Finally, someone in office able to clear up that age-old conundrum of Jesus being the only way to the Father! To have that baggage off my shoulders of knowing that Muslims, Jews, Mormons, atheists, secular humanists, relativists, materialists, rationalists, and Wiccans will all go to heaven without Jesus muddying up the water saves me the trouble (and expense) of supporting mission trips to foreign lands, and should make all of us sleep better at night.

4) Using his race to avoid scrutiny is a clever tactic and something we can all emulate. Unfortunately, my race is European. But did I mention I’m a big fan of the ancient Aztecs? The upside is that with a president who is black and not of evil, self-serving European descent (his pastor’s words, not mine), we will finally see an end to poverty, the end of racism, and the end of Christian influence in the public square. The answer to these problems has always been in liberal socialism-materialism, and everyone knows that nothing motivates a generation like a handout. Ask Stalin. The Christian forefathers prayed for a day where the Judeo/Christian moral standard of America would self implode, since it asks too much from individuals to call sin, well, sin, as opposed to cultural fluctuation. And to think, it came from our own! I’m making up new bracelets: "What Would Judas Do?”

5) Finally, I am excited about the new Christian liberal persuading the rest of us archaic traditional evangelicals to join our comrades in their revolutionary neo-Christianity, so that we too can become enlightened to such a degree that even voting for someone completely antithetical to historic Christian values and social influence is somehow beautiful and utopian and best of all, makes us so irrelevant even Bill Mahr and Richard Dawkins find us useful idiots. It’s exciting because they’ll get to do it without the Bible and all its oppression. These Christians are doing a lot to change America in Jesus name. The only thing they’re missing is … Jesus. Then again, it’s a real probability he never knew them anyway. By the way have you heard about the Aztec renaissance?

Dubbed "God's comic" by The New Yorker magazine, comedian Brad Stine brings his irreverent, edgy, and politically incorrect message to both mainstream and church audiences across the nation. His fifth DVD, "The Best of Brad Stine," features the best material from his previous releases, "Put A Helmet On!," "Conservative Unleashed," "Tolerate This!" and "Wussification." Visit Brad online at Welcome To BradStine.com.
 
Interesting article, thanks for sharing this.

While I think Obama is a hell-bound choice for America, I do believe its our obligation as believers to pray for him.

There are ample signs of the very nearing of Christ and prophecy being fulfilled currently. Ample.
 
I half expected to get the 'Coconut, you know how much I dont like sarcasm' speech :embarasse

If these are indeed the last days as many believe, we know that it is not Christians who will be in power, according Scripture:

Revelation 17:17 "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."

Finally, I am excited about the new Christian liberal persuading the rest of us archaic traditional evangelicals to join our comrades in their revolutionary neo-Christianity, so that we too can become enlightened to such a degree that even voting for someone completely antithetical to historic Christian values and social influence is somehow beautiful and utopian

I actually do think this is exciting, despite the intent of sarcasm, because it is a fullfillment of prophecy. The modern wave of christianity (note the lower case 'c' ) now condemns as a judgemental, the man or woman who stands firmly upon the rock of the Word of God, and refuses to be swayed by the tides of unity and love and acceptance that are rolling across this world in Christs name.

John 16:2 "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time will cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God a service."


Those who claim to belong to Jesus Christ and take no stance against Biblical disobedience are described in verses like:

2 Thess 2:11-12 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believe not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
 
I half expected to get the 'Coconut, you know how much I dont like sarcasm' speech :embarasse

If these are indeed the last days as many believe, we know that it is not Christians who will be in power, according Scripture:

Revelation 17:17 "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."



I actually do think this is exciting, despite the intent of sarcasm, because it is a fullfillment of prophecy. The modern wave of christianity (note the lower case 'c' ) now condemns as a judgemental, the man or woman who stands firmly upon the rock of the Word of God, and refuses to be swayed by the tides of unity and love and acceptance that are rolling across this world in Christs name.

John 16:2 "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time will cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God a service."


Those who claim to belong to Jesus Christ and take no stance against Biblical disobedience are described in verses like:

2 Thess 2:11-12 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believe not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

I totally agree wth you and Chad, it is exciting times. Spiritual growth in God's babies is on the horizon, any Christ follower that thinks they can become mature without suffering are sadly mistaken and deceived.

1Thessalonians 2:14
And then, dear brothers and sisters, you suffered persecution from your own countrymen. In this way, you imitated the believers in God's churches in Judea who, because of their belief in Christ Jesus, suffered from their own people, the Jews.
 
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