This House Lies Desolate

[Sue J Love]

Wednesday, April 5, 2017, 11:23 p.m. – Throughout the day, I was aware that there were bad storms and tornadoes happening in various parts of the eastern USA, in particular in the southern states, and that more bad weather was coming yet tonight. I went to bed around 9:00 p.m., but I was awakened at around 10:30 p.m. by a storm that was brewing outside. The wind was blowing through the open window, and this is what awakened me. The Lord Jesus then put in mind the song “Seek the Lord.” And, then I also heard in my mind the name “Zerubbabel.” I had just finished reading the book of Isaiah earlier in the day, so I suspected the Lord was leading me to now read about Zerubbabel, which then led me to the book of Haggai. Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. So, I read Haggai 1 (NASB).

Rebuild the House (vv. 1-4)

In the second year of Darius the king, on the first day of the sixth month, the word of the Lord came by the prophet Haggai to Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, saying, “Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘This people says, “The time has not come, even the time for the house of the Lord to be rebuilt.”’” Then the word of the Lord came by Haggai the prophet, saying, “Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses while this house lies desolate?” ​

Since Jesus Christ, the Son of God (and God), died on a cross for our sins, rose from the dead, ascended back to heaven, and then sent his Holy Spirit to indwell the lives of his followers, the House of the Lord has been, and always will be those who have trusted in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of their lives, until Jesus returns. Collectively we are called “the church.” Yet, this is not to be confused with a physical building called “a church,” nor with institutions of human origin, nor with corporations under the federal government. In other words, now rebuilding God’s house, which lies in ruins, has NOTHING to do with restoring a physical building, or property, or any kind of physical structure or organization instituted of men (and women).

So, if the House of the Lord lies in ruins today and it needs to be rebuilt, what does this look like? Well, we are that house, so it has to do with our individual lives, and collectively we comprise the church, the body of Christ, so it also has to do with the church, as Christ’s body. So, what would it mean that we lie in ruins? Ruins are wrecks, devastations, decays and collapses. They are declines, deteriorations and a weakening. It means our lives are far from what they are supposed to be. It means we are not living what we say we believe, but we have fallen away from God’s design for our lives in saving us out of slavery to sin, and we have, instead, engaged ourselves in what is sinful, adulterous, idolatrous and in spiritual adultery.

Although it is certainly bad enough that God’s house lies in ruins, what makes matters even worse is that the people of God, his saints, are largely complacent about that fact. They are too busy building their own kingdoms and their own houses than they care about rebuilding (reviving) their own hearts and the hearts of others who have fallen away from pure devotion to Jesus Christ. Even though a vast majority of the church, the body of Christ, has gone the way of the world, and is following after the idols of men, instead of following their Lord in obedience, it appears that most people who call themselves Christians are not moved or grieved by this at all.

Consider Your Ways (vv. 5-9)

Now therefore, thus says the Lord of hosts, “Consider your ways! You have sown much, but harvest little; you eat, but there is not enough to be satisfied; you drink, but there is not enough to become drunk; you put on clothing, but no one is warm enough; and he who earns, earns wages to put into a purse with holes.” Thus says the Lord of hosts, “Consider your ways! Go up to the mountains, bring wood and rebuild the temple, that I may be pleased with it and be glorified,” says the Lord. “You look for much, but behold, it comes to little; when you bring it home, I blow it away. Why?” declares the Lord of hosts, “Because of My house which lies desolate, while each of you runs to his own house.”​

So, the Lord is calling out to his church, and he is saying, “Consider your ways.” What he is asking of his church is that we prayerfully and thoughtfully examine our lives (our hearts, actions, etc.) before Almighty God and in light of the teachings of scripture, and see if there be any wicked way in us. If there is, then we need to turn from the sin, allow the Spirit of God to revive our hearts, and turn to follow our Lord in faithful obedience, and in surrender to HIS will for our lives, from this moment forward.

As part of this heart examination, we must consider what we know of what scripture teaches and then evaluate our own lives by that standard (measurement). Most of us probably know already if we are living up to what we know God’s Word teaches regarding how we should live, but sometimes people suppress the truth through regularly ignoring the Spirit’s voice, and soon they become desensitized to all the evil which they are taking into their minds and hearts on a daily basis. So, a good measure would be Philippians 4:8 where we are told to think on what is true, pure, honorable, just, right, praiseworthy, etc. We should ask ourselves if what we are doing, watching, thinking, speaking, etc. is true, pure, right, etc. If it is not, then we need to cut it out of our lives, and we need to replace those things with what is pure, honorable, righteous, godly and holy.

In this way, we are rebuilding the ruins, because we are removing the decay and what is rotten and we are throwing out those things in the trash, where they belong, and we are building now into our lives what is pleasing to God, and what is fruitful for his kingdom, and what has eternal value rather than us working toward only what is going to pass away, such as houses that can be quickly blown away by a severe storm or a tornado. We can spend our lives working for and building what is only going to rot and decay or disappear, or we can spend our lives working for what is eternal, and for what makes a difference in our own lives and in the lives of other humans.

Reverence for God (vv. 12-15)

Then Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, with all the remnant of the people, obeyed the voice of the Lord their God and the words of Haggai the prophet, as the Lord their God had sent him. And the people showed reverence for the Lord. Then Haggai, the messenger of the Lord, spoke by the commission of the Lord to the people saying, “‘I am with you,’ declares the Lord.” So the Lord stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and worked on the house of the Lord of hosts, their God, on the twenty-fourth day of the sixth month in the second year of Darius the king.​

If we do not obey the Lord, and if we, as his church, continue to go our own way, and to do our own thing, and to focus our hearts, passions, time and affections on what is only going to die off and disappear, while we ignore the spiritual condition of our own hearts, God will discipline (correct, judge, rebuke) us (See: vv. 10-11 omitted). I believe he is already doing that in many different ways, and that it is only going to get much more severe as we near his return. And, I believe this is because our God wants us to return to him as our ONLY Lord so that he can revive our hearts and restore us to a correct relationship with him, according to his design for our lives.

Then, when the church, which has strayed from him, has humbled herself before her God, and confessed her sins, and turned from them to follow her Lord, and to walk in his ways, he will restore and renew her. He will be with her in the work of rebuilding (transforming and restructuring) the lives of individual believers in Christ, and also the life of the church, as a whole. Our God will move in the hearts of his people in this rebuilding process, and he will show the way in which this needs to take place. And, he will empower and strengthen his people to do all that is necessary to forsake sin, idols and worldly ways, and to now walk in his holiness and in his righteousness.

Seek the Lord / An Original Work / July 20, 2012

Based off Isaiah 55

“Come to Me all you who thirst; come to waters.
Listen to Me, and eat what’s good today,
And your soul will delight in richest of fare.
Give ear to Me, and you will live.
I have made an eternal covenant with you.
Wash in the blood of the Lamb.”

Seek the Lord while He may be found; call on Him.
Let the wicked forsake his way, in truth.
Let him turn to the Lord, and he will receive mercy.
Freely, God pardons him.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,”
declares the Lord, our God.

“My word that goes out of My mouth is truthful.
It will not return to Me unfulfilled.
My word will accomplish all that I desire,
And achieve the goal I intend.
You will go in joy, and be led forth in peace.
The mountains will burst into song… before you,
And all of the trees clap their hands.”

 

[jcforever]

Wednesday, April 5, 2017, 11:23 p.m. – Throughout the day, I was aware that there were bad storms and tornadoes happening in various parts of the eastern USA, in particular in the southern states, and that more bad weather was coming yet tonight. I went to bed around 9:00 p.m., but I was awakened at around 10:30 p.m. by a storm that was brewing outside. The wind was blowing through the open window, and this is what awakened me. The Lord Jesus then put in mind the song “Seek the Lord.” And, then I also heard in my mind the name “Zerubbabel.” I had just finished reading the book of Isaiah earlier in the day, so I suspected the Lord was leading me to now read about Zerubbabel, which then led me to the book of Haggai. Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. So, I read Haggai 1 (NASB).

Rebuild the House (vv. 1-4)

In the second year of Darius the king, on the first day of the sixth month, the word of the Lord came by the prophet Haggai to Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, saying, “Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘This people says, “The time has not come, even the time for the house of the Lord to be rebuilt.”’” Then the word of the Lord came by Haggai the prophet, saying, “Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses while this house lies desolate?” ​

Since Jesus Christ, the Son of God (and God), died on a cross for our sins, rose from the dead, ascended back to heaven, and then sent his Holy Spirit to indwell the lives of his followers, the House of the Lord has been, and always will be those who have trusted in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of their lives, until Jesus returns. Collectively we are called “the church.” Yet, this is not to be confused with a physical building called “a church,” nor with institutions of human origin, nor with corporations under the federal government. In other words, now rebuilding God’s house, which lies in ruins, has NOTHING to do with restoring a physical building, or property, or any kind of physical structure or organization instituted of men (and women).

So, if the House of the Lord lies in ruins today and it needs to be rebuilt, what does this look like? Well, we are that house, so it has to do with our individual lives, and collectively we comprise the church, the body of Christ, so it also has to do with the church, as Christ’s body. So, what would it mean that we lie in ruins? Ruins are wrecks, devastations, decays and collapses. They are declines, deteriorations and a weakening. It means our lives are far from what they are supposed to be. It means we are not living what we say we believe, but we have fallen away from God’s design for our lives in saving us out of slavery to sin, and we have, instead, engaged ourselves in what is sinful, adulterous, idolatrous and in spiritual adultery.

Although it is certainly bad enough that God’s house lies in ruins, what makes matters even worse is that the people of God, his saints, are largely complacent about that fact. They are too busy building their own kingdoms and their own houses than they care about rebuilding (reviving) their own hearts and the hearts of others who have fallen away from pure devotion to Jesus Christ. Even though a vast majority of the church, the body of Christ, has gone the way of the world, and is following after the idols of men, instead of following their Lord in obedience, it appears that most people who call themselves Christians are not moved or grieved by this at all.

Consider Your Ways (vv. 5-9)

Now therefore, thus says the Lord of hosts, “Consider your ways! You have sown much, but harvest little; you eat, but there is not enough to be satisfied; you drink, but there is not enough to become drunk; you put on clothing, but no one is warm enough; and he who earns, earns wages to put into a purse with holes.” Thus says the Lord of hosts, “Consider your ways! Go up to the mountains, bring wood and rebuild the temple, that I may be pleased with it and be glorified,” says the Lord. “You look for much, but behold, it comes to little; when you bring it home, I blow it away. Why?” declares the Lord of hosts, “Because of My house which lies desolate, while each of you runs to his own house.”​

So, the Lord is calling out to his church, and he is saying, “Consider your ways.” What he is asking of his church is that we prayerfully and thoughtfully examine our lives (our hearts, actions, etc.) before Almighty God and in light of the teachings of scripture, and see if there be any wicked way in us. If there is, then we need to turn from the sin, allow the Spirit of God to revive our hearts, and turn to follow our Lord in faithful obedience, and in surrender to HIS will for our lives, from this moment forward.

As part of this heart examination, we must consider what we know of what scripture teaches and then evaluate our own lives by that standard (measurement). Most of us probably know already if we are living up to what we know God’s Word teaches regarding how we should live, but sometimes people suppress the truth through regularly ignoring the Spirit’s voice, and soon they become desensitized to all the evil which they are taking into their minds and hearts on a daily basis. So, a good measure would be Philippians 4:8 where we are told to think on what is true, pure, honorable, just, right, praiseworthy, etc. We should ask ourselves if what we are doing, watching, thinking, speaking, etc. is true, pure, right, etc. If it is not, then we need to cut it out of our lives, and we need to replace those things with what is pure, honorable, righteous, godly and holy.

In this way, we are rebuilding the ruins, because we are removing the decay and what is rotten and we are throwing out those things in the trash, where they belong, and we are building now into our lives what is pleasing to God, and what is fruitful for his kingdom, and what has eternal value rather than us working toward only what is going to pass away, such as houses that can be quickly blown away by a severe storm or a tornado. We can spend our lives working for and building what is only going to rot and decay or disappear, or we can spend our lives working for what is eternal, and for what makes a difference in our own lives and in the lives of other humans.

Reverence for God (vv. 12-15)

Then Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, with all the remnant of the people, obeyed the voice of the Lord their God and the words of Haggai the prophet, as the Lord their God had sent him. And the people showed reverence for the Lord. Then Haggai, the messenger of the Lord, spoke by the commission of the Lord to the people saying, “‘I am with you,’ declares the Lord.” So the Lord stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and worked on the house of the Lord of hosts, their God, on the twenty-fourth day of the sixth month in the second year of Darius the king.​

If we do not obey the Lord, and if we, as his church, continue to go our own way, and to do our own thing, and to focus our hearts, passions, time and affections on what is only going to die off and disappear, while we ignore the spiritual condition of our own hearts, God will discipline (correct, judge, rebuke) us (See: vv. 10-11 omitted). I believe he is already doing that in many different ways, and that it is only going to get much more severe as we near his return. And, I believe this is because our God wants us to return to him as our ONLY Lord so that he can revive our hearts and restore us to a correct relationship with him, according to his design for our lives.

Then, when the church, which has strayed from him, has humbled herself before her God, and confessed her sins, and turned from them to follow her Lord, and to walk in his ways, he will restore and renew her. He will be with her in the work of rebuilding (transforming and restructuring) the lives of individual believers in Christ, and also the life of the church, as a whole. Our God will move in the hearts of his people in this rebuilding process, and he will show the way in which this needs to take place. And, he will empower and strengthen his people to do all that is necessary to forsake sin, idols and worldly ways, and to now walk in his holiness and in his righteousness.

Seek the Lord / An Original Work / July 20, 2012

Based off Isaiah 55

“Come to Me all you who thirst; come to waters.
Listen to Me, and eat what’s good today,
And your soul will delight in richest of fare.
Give ear to Me, and you will live.
I have made an eternal covenant with you.
Wash in the blood of the Lamb.”

Seek the Lord while He may be found; call on Him.
Let the wicked forsake his way, in truth.
Let him turn to the Lord, and he will receive mercy.
Freely, God pardons him.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,”
declares the Lord, our God.

“My word that goes out of My mouth is truthful.
It will not return to Me unfulfilled.
My word will accomplish all that I desire,
And achieve the goal I intend.
You will go in joy, and be led forth in peace.
The mountains will burst into song… before you,
And all of the trees clap their hands.”

Don't worry. God has everything under control according to a plan. After the day of the Lord, never again will men created in the image of God be confused with images and thoughts of good and evil. All those good and evil things formed by the false prophet ( Lucifer, Satan. Devil, Dragon, Serpent, the World ) and the beast known as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil will be cast into the lake of fire on that day. When the earth begins to shake violently as planned, everything on earth will be destroyed and a new heaven and earth will replace the old.

Revelation 21
1: Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
2: And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband;
3: and I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, the dwelling of God is with men. He will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself will be with them;
4: he will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more, for the former things have passed away."
5: And he who sat upon the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new." Also he said, "Write this, for these words are trustworthy and true."

 

[Marek]

@ jcforever

No no, the way to eternal life is not easy, it doesn't stop when when we're born-again and receive the Spirit of God, we must continue to press forward through the difficulties of life in faith and obedience, and always be attentive to the voice of the Most High.
It is dangerous to backslide from the narrow path, and it always has consequences, but with them comes a lesson too.

“Your own evil instructs you, and your backslidings reprove you. Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter that you have forsaken יהוה your Elohim, and that My fear is not in you,” declares the Master יהוה of hosts." (Jeremiah 2:19).

We may choose not to respond to the voice of God in time, as for example, people before the flood did not respond..

"Let them then call on me, but I answer not; Let them seek me, but not find me.
“Because they hated knowledge And did not choose the fear of יהוה,
“They did not accept my counsel, They despised all my reproof,
“Therefore let them eat the fruit of their own way, And be filled with their own counsels.
“For the turning away of the simple slays them, And the complacency of fools destroys them.
“But whoever listens to me dwells safely, And is at ease from the dread of evil.” (Proverbs 1:28).

 

[jcforever]

@ jcforever

No no, the way to eternal life is not easy, it doesn't stop when when we're born-again and receive the Spirit of God, we must continue to press forward through the difficulties of life in faith and obedience, and always be attentive to the voice of the Most High.
It is dangerous to backslide from the narrow path, and it always has consequences, but with them comes a lesson too.

“Your own evil instructs you, and your backslidings reprove you. Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter that you have forsaken יהוה your Elohim, and that My fear is not in you,” declares the Master יהוה of hosts." (Jeremiah 2:19).

We may choose not to respond to the voice of God in time, as for example, people before the flood did not respond..

"Let them then call on me, but I answer not; Let them seek me, but not find me.
“Because they hated knowledge And did not choose the fear of יהוה,
“They did not accept my counsel, They despised all my reproof,
“Therefore let them eat the fruit of their own way, And be filled with their own counsels.
“For the turning away of the simple slays them, And the complacency of fools destroys them.
“But whoever listens to me dwells safely, And is at ease from the dread of evil.” (Proverbs 1:28).

Those who listen to the voice of God and obey all his commands will be blessed for eternity. Those men who were chosen to hear his voice and obey his commands during this temporary generation learn the plans of our Creator and knowledge about how we're created. All created men will hear his voice after the death of their flesh and live for eternity.

John 5:
25: "Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.
26: For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself,
27: and has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of man.
28: Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice.


Those who trust in their own interpretations of what they read in the Bible will be deceived by those interpretations.

 

[Sue J Love]

Don't worry. God has everything under control according to a plan. After the day of the Lord, never again will men created in the image of God be confused with images and thoughts of good and evil. All those good and evil things formed by the false prophet ( Lucifer, Satan. Devil, Dragon, Serpent, the World ) and the beast known as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil will be cast into the lake of fire on that day. When the earth begins to shake violently as planned, everything on earth will be destroyed and a new heaven and earth will replace the old.

Revelation 21
1: Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
2: And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband;
3: and I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, the dwelling of God is with men. He will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself will be with them;
4: he will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more, for the former things have passed away."
5: And he who sat upon the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new." Also he said, "Write this, for these words are trustworthy and true."

I am not worried, but I think you are missing the point of the passage and the teaching here. The message for today is that the church in America, though it could be the same in other places, too, is largely on a spiritual decline, and is living in spiritual adultery against her Lord. Not only that, but, for the most part, this does not seem to concern her. So, this is a call from God for us to examine our hearts before him to see what in our lives is in "ruins" and what needs to be rebuilt (revived and restored). It is a call to consider our ways to see if they line up with God and His Word. And, if they don't, to then repent of (turn from) our sinful ways so that God can revive us and renew us. We need to remove from our lives what is rotten and decaying and we need to build into our lives what is pleasing to God and is fruitful for his eternal kingdom. If we do not repent, then we should expect some divine discipline (judgment, correction) in order to move us to repent and to make God/Jesus our ONLY Lord. So, the call is to examine our hearts, see what needs to be cut out of our lives, and what needs to be incorporated into our lives, instead, and then to obey God. Walk with him from this day forward. It is the only way to true peace and joy, and it is what we were created and saved for, to do and to be.

 

[jcforever]

I am not worried, but I think you are missing the point of the passage and the teaching here. The message for today is that the church in America, though it could be the same in other places, too, is largely on a spiritual decline, and is living in spiritual adultery against her Lord. Not only that, but, for the most part, this does not seem to concern her. So, this is a call from God for us to examine our hearts before him to see what in our lives is in "ruins" and what needs to be rebuilt (revived and restored). It is a call to consider our ways to see if they line up with God and His Word. And, if they don't, to then repent of (turn from) our sinful ways so that God can revive us and renew us. We need to remove from our lives what is rotten and decaying and we need to build into our lives what is pleasing to God and is fruitful for his eternal kingdom. If we do not repent, then we should expect some divine discipline (judgment, correction) in order to move us to repent and to make God/Jesus our ONLY Lord. So, the call is to examine our hearts, see what needs to be cut out of our lives, and what needs to be incorporated into our lives, instead, and then to obey God. Walk with him from this day forward. It is the only way to true peace and joy, and it is what we were created and saved for, to do and to be.

Like the Jews who missed the mark, human beings keep believing their religious attempts to please the Lord will give them rewards. They have no patience to let the Lord finish out the plans and destroy man's enemies on the day of the Lord. It's impossible for any inhabitant on earth to change the will of God but they will keep trying until they perish.

God's plan of salvation for all men will end on the day of the Lord because a new heaven and earth will replace the old as promised. Read these following promises and put your trust in the Lord who will destroy your enemies soon. The New Heaven and Earth

 

[Sue J Love]

Like the Jews who missed the mark, human beings keep believing their religious attempts to please the Lord will give them rewards. They have no patience to let the Lord finish out the plans and destroy man's enemies on the day of the Lord. It's impossible for any inhabitant on earth to change the will of God but they will keep trying until they perish.

God's plan of salvation for all men will end on the day of the Lord because a new heaven and earth will replace the old as promised. Read these following promises and put your trust in the Lord who will destroy your enemies soon. The New Heaven and Earth

My trust is fully in my Lord and not in any human effort or in any religious attempts to please the Lord in exchange for rewards. I live to please him because I love him, and because of all that he has done for me, and I do so in his power and strength at work within me and not in my own flesh.

 

[jcforever]

My trust is fully in my Lord and not in any human effort or in any religious attempts to please the Lord in exchange for rewards. I live to please him because I love him, and because of all that he has done for me, and I do so in his power and strength at work within me and not in my own flesh.

So you have no need to be concerned about the religions and visible churches ( false gods ) that human beings have built with their human hands because the plan is to destroy them all.

Daniel 2
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

 

[Br. Bear]

Therefore,
since we are receiving an unshakable kingdom,
let us be filled with gratitude,
and so worship God acceptably
with reverence and awe.
Hebrews 12:28

 

[jcforever]

Therefore,
since we are receiving an unshakable kingdom,
let us be filled with gratitude,
and so worship God acceptably
with reverence and awe.
Hebrews 12:28

Why should I trust a man who deletes the words of the Lord?

Did you know that false prophets use the words written in the Bible for their own selfish purpose to try control other people? Even atheists use the words in the Bible for their own selfish purpose.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings @Sue J Love

Please excuse the last post. It appears that there has been a misunderstanding. Your thread here is not the place to have a go at other members, including myself .

Bless you ....><>

@jcforever ,

Why should I trust a man who deletes the words of the Lord?

Did you know that false prophets use the words written in the Bible for their own selfish purpose to try control other people? Even atheists use the words in the Bible for their own selfish purpose.

yes I do know but thank you for kindly wanting to tell me.

Please don't get too presumptuous. It's not good for your health and certainly distracts from Grace.

Please refrain from posting unnecessary comments on this thread . Thank you .

Bless you ....><>

 

[jcforever]

Greetings @Sue J Love

Please excuse the last post. It appears that there has been a misunderstanding. Your thread here is not the place to have a go at other members, including myself .

Bless you ....><>

@jcforever ,


yes I do know but thank you for kindly wanting to tell me.

Please don't get too presumptuous. It's not good for your health and certainly distracts from Grace.

Please refrain from posting unnecessary comments on this thread . Thank you .

Bless you ....><>

Please excuse the last post. It appears that there has been a misunderstanding. Your thread here is not the place to have a go at other members, including myself .

Bless you ....><>

@jcforever ,


yes I do know but thank you for kindly wanting to tell me.

Please don't get too presumptuous. It's not good for your health and certainly distracts from Grace.

Please refrain from posting unnecessary comments on this thread . Thank you .

Bless you ....><>[/QUOTE]

My posts in this thread were necessary for Sue J Love to hear from the Lord. You don't need to interrupt our conversation because the Lord can handle His people perfectly.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings @jcforever ,

Thank you for your suggestions to me. Please understand that this is a public forum and all members are encouraged to participate and engage in all the threads and are fully entitled to do so.
If you or anyone else wants to enter one to one, uninterrupted dialogue with other members we have the proper channel to do this , namely Conversation,which you are familiar with .

Please do not expect any members, including myself , to not post anything merely because you have posted something.
If you want to control who speaks and when, may I suggest that you start your own blog page where you can be in full control?
Membership at TalkJesus is open to everyone and posting is likewise the right of all members .

Post in peace and trust the LORD that His Word will not return to Him void . He sends His rain on the just AND the unjust. If you have something to say or tell anyone else , do so and let the LORD do His work in your life and the lives of all members .

The Scripture I posted was actually in support of what you and Sue J Love posted and I know the LORD knows this.

Bless you ....><>

Therefore,
since we are receiving an unshakable kingdom,
let us be filled with gratitude,
and so worship God acceptably
with reverence and awe.
Hebrews 12:28