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Those who say they are Jews

B-A-C

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Rev 2:8; "And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: The first and the last, who was dead, and has come to life, says this:
Rev 2:9; 'I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by
those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Rev 2:10; 'Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.
Rev 2:11; 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.'


Rev 3:7; "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: He who is holy, who is true, who has the key of David, who opens and no one will shut, and who shuts and no one opens, says this:
Rev 3:8; 'I know your deeds. Behold, I have put before you an open door which no one can shut, because you have a little power, and have kept My word, and have not denied My name.
Rev 3:9; 'Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan,
who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
Rev 3:10; 'Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
Rev 3:11; 'I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
Rev 3:12; 'He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name.
Rev 3:13; 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.'


Of the seven churches mentioned in revelation 2 and 3. These two churches ( Smyrna and Philadelphia )were the only two that Jesus didn't have anything against them. They are Gentile churches, in what we would call modern day Turkey ( Turkiye )
So then, if these are Gentile churches in Gentile lands, why would people in these churches call themselves Jews? Is it talking about biological Jews here? ..or, is it talking about "Christian" Gentiles?
Could the verses above be re-phrased as....

those who say they are Christians and are not, but lie

In either case, they are called a synagogue of Satan.
 
Rev 2:8; "And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: The first and the last, who was dead, and has come to life, says this:
Rev 2:9; 'I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by
those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Rev 2:10; 'Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.
Rev 2:11; 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.'


Rev 3:7; "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: He who is holy, who is true, who has the key of David, who opens and no one will shut, and who shuts and no one opens, says this:
Rev 3:8; 'I know your deeds. Behold, I have put before you an open door which no one can shut, because you have a little power, and have kept My word, and have not denied My name.
Rev 3:9; 'Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan,
who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
Rev 3:10; 'Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
Rev 3:11; 'I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
Rev 3:12; 'He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name.
Rev 3:13; 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.'


Of the seven churches mentioned in revelation 2 and 3. These two churches ( Smyrna and Philadelphia )were the only two that Jesus didn't have anything against them. They are Gentile churches, in what we would call modern day Turkey ( Turkiye )
So then, if these are Gentile churches in Gentile lands, why would people in these churches call themselves Jews? Is it talking about biological Jews here? ..or, is it talking about "Christian" Gentiles?
Could the verses above be re-phrased as....

those who say they are Christians and are not, but lie

In either case, they are called a synagogue of Satan.
'And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write;
These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich)
and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not,
but are the synagogue of Satan.'
(Rev 2:8-9)

'Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie;
behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.'
(Rev 3:9)

Hello @B-A-C,

I believe that these assembled people in Smyrna (Rev. 2:7-11) and Philadelphia are Jews (Rev. 3:7-13), and that they have been infiltrated by those who say they are Jews and are not. God says what He means and means what He says.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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