Too nice is too hard

[Property Of God]

Do you ever wonder how nice you try to be and you just can't take it anymore? Seriously, like you just have to lash out at someone somehow at some point, you need to get it out!

Every day i wake up and force a smile on my face and act all too sweet but sometimes i just have to scream at someone to stop talking!
We are ALL human after all, how much can we take!??

I lashed out at a friend today, he sort of deserved it but that doesn't make it right, i don't have the right to hurt anyone especially a friend, so the only thing that stops me from lashing out, is the guilt i feel afterwards, if i scream at my mom for talking about things i don't care about at all, for hours i feel guilty...

Jesus never got angry at anyone, i mean he had the right to and they deserved it many times but he never did, and people at that time weren't as compromising or educated like we are now, he never got angry at anyone and he was very nice and they still didn't want him between them, so imagine if he was an angry man?


What i want to say, that it hurts to bite your tongue and say nothing when it's killing you to, but it'll hurt you more if you let it slip.

 

[ladylovesJesus]

We need to do what Jesus tells us to do in His Word. Bless those who curse you and to love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your mind and all your strength and to love your neigbour as yourself. Deut 6.5

Phil.4.

4 Always be full of joy in the Lord. I say it again—rejoice! 5 Let everyone see that you are considerate in all you do. Remember, the Lord is coming soon.
6 Don’t worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done. 7 Then you will experience God’s peace, which exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus.
8 And now, dear brothers and sisters, one final thing. Fix your thoughts on what is true, and honorable, and right, and pure, and lovely, and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise. 9 Keep putting into practice all you learned and received from me—everything you heard from me and saw me doing. Then the God of peace will be with you.

Jesus did get angry when He overturned the tables. He had a righteous anger.
Nehemiah 8.10
Death and life are in the power of the tongue.

We are to develop the fruit of the spirit. Self Control is one of those.
Gal.5.
22 But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!




2 Cor.10.5
We also have to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.

Stop and think WWJD.

Remember too when we sin we have to ask God as soon as we realise it to forgive us.

God bless

LLJ :rainbow: :rose:

 

[trucker]

To nice is too hard

As other posts pointed out, Jesus did get angry. The bible tells us be angry but sin not. There is a righteous anger and then there is anger that is of the flesh.

Stop trying in your own strength to be so sweet and begin to live out of your new heart. God has given you all things that pertain to LIFE and Godliness through the knowledge of him. If you want to walk in self control, it is one of the fruits of the spirit. It’s already in you and the way you develop it is to realize who you are now. Meditate on the fact that you are a new creation in Christ and the very attributes of God are in you. Paul said it’s not I that live, but Christ in me. Allow Christ to flow from the inside out. If all you do is change your behavior by sheer will power, you will be doing it in your own strength and will keep repeating cycles. Paul learned to rest in Gods grace and drew his strength from the Lord.

This takes time. You must yield to that still small voice tugging at you when you begin to get angry. It will tell you, ok, you need to take five minutes and hold your tongue. You may blow it, but ask God to help you make the changes you desire. Romans 8 tell us we are predestined to be conformed into the image of Christ. Allow the Holy Spirit in you to change you and stay away from fleshly behavior modification. Modifying your behavior works for a while, but it comes from the outside. You need to change from the inside and your inward change will affect the outer and soon you will be in control of your anger.

You must realize that though Jesus was the son of God, he walked this earth as the son of Man. He showed us what a man with the spirit of God in and on him could do on this earth. He showed us how to live this life on the earth in the midst of a perverse generation. He was tempted in everyway you are, but learned as he fellowshipped with God, and acted on the Fathers leading, he became the express image of God while he walked around on this earth. You can do the same.

He died and rose again so that the Old you died and you are now a new creature in Christ. (II corth 5: 17-21). Start realizing you are dead to old ways of thinking and doing things and start drawing from your new recreated human spirit. You do this by reading his word. Concentrate on the New Testamet and I would suggest you read Romans through Jude to see how to live his christian life. Once you understand the New Covenant, then go Back to the Old and see how fortunate you are under the new. Thank God your not under the Mosaic Law, you would have been killed for some of the things we all do. God is extending his mercy to you and all men right now, so learn your New Covenant.

I suggest reading a proverb a day. The book of proverbs is wisdom for every day living. For example, today is March 1st. Read Proverbs chapter one. Then on the second read Proverbs chapter 2. You will end up reading the entire book of Proverbs 12 times this year. As you read, ask God to reveal things to you about anger, patience, or whatever. You will be surprised at what he shows you. Be patient with yourself and give yourself a break. If you do a big piece of stupid, ask God to forgive you and hit it again.

God bless you,

Trucker

 

[SpiritLedEd]

Romans 8 tell us we are predestined to be conformed into the image of Christ. Allow the Holy Spirit in you to change you and stay away from fleshly behavior modification. Modifying your behavior works for a while, but it comes from the outside. You need to change from the inside and your inward change will affect the outer and soon you will be in control of your anger.

I hope that every Christian (newbie and oldtimer) who visits this site reads and meditates on these words. So many believers take up the world's behavior modification ways and wind up frustrated when the changes don't stick. Thank you, Trucker, for this great post.

SLE

 

[trucker]

To nice is to hard

Thanks Spirit led Ed. I do not want to leave the impression that as Christians we just sit around and wait for God to wave the magic wand around then, poof we change. Change comes from the new you, your new re-created spirit. The works we are required to do is, rest in the finished work of Christ and allow his grace to change us. We need to renew our mind to who we are in Christ and find out what God says about changing.

We all deal with our Flesh, but the real you is your Spirit. As you re-new you mind to that fact, change comes from the inner man and IT affects your outward behavior. For example, I hear so many people saying you gotta get the love of God. Romans 5:5 says Gods love has (already) been shed abroad in your heart by the Holy Spirit. So, to walk in love means to allow that Love in your heart (The new you) to begin to reveal itself. If all you do is try to act loving, but have not allowed the Christ love in you to take precedent, you will be frustrated. You can act loving, but in reality your heart is full of bitterness and anger. Acting lovely is one thing, being Love is another. As you meditate on II corth 13, Love suffers long, love is kind, ect, that is revealing to you the real you. You can be that way because God has MADE YOU that way. We have people trying to be something they already are. See love in action by looking at the gospels and seeing how Christ acted. That is a mirror of who you are! You are now in Him. It’s a life long walk, so be patient with yourselves!

 

[stephen]

What i want to say, that it hurts to bite your tongue and say nothing when it's killing you to, but it'll hurt you more if you let it slip.

You have a conscience sister 'nermeen', as well as a feisty temper. Looking at your profile, and pictures who would have thought such. The temper I mean. The sincerity in your post is wonderful. Scripture exhorts all who love Jesus to confess their faults one to another, that you might be healed. James 5 :16 The word healed here means any other trouble other than sickness.

Is was the great world reknown Evangelist Dr Billy Graham, now in his eighties, who penned the phrase "The heart is a rebel" So it is, we all have to master it.

The great Apostolic preacher, and pioneer missionary around the middle east, even reaching Europe in the days of the Early Church, said "I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified"

WE all have to do it

 

[dawngordon]

The only time I lash out is when I end up arguing with with someone who is not abiding the whole book, they will quote Romans instead of Titus 3, and neglect what Jesus says about the laws still being in effect until our last breath

but that is righteous anger though, because they are abusing the cross, that is the only time I get angry with another person, or if I feel I have no time for myself because I am always thinking of my family, the house needs to be clean, plus my calling to God, so...I start to lash out when I feel I am not balancing,

 

[Coconut]

nermeen ..."Too nice is too hard"...sometimes...lol
I am so laid back I could easily slide off this chair...nothing much rattles me...nothing much upsets me...but every once in awhile...I could just SMACK sumbuddy...guess ya know :friends:


Trucker hit the nail right on the head! (i`m not sure what he would do if he hit his thumb) :regret-animated:

Kidding! :tongue-animated:

I hope that every Christian (newbie and oldtimer) who visits this site reads and meditates on these words. So many believers take up the world's behavior modification ways and wind up frustrated when the changes don't stick. Thank you, Trucker, for this great post.

Amen SLE!

 

[dawngordon]

Had A Laugh

I love that little face with the band aid on the mouth,

had a laugh over that one,

 

[Laudite]

Sister, truly I think we can all understand what you're talking about!

When I find myself in a similar situation, I most often find two things help me out. Prayer is where it all starts for me. I often use the Lord's Prayer as a means of calming myself and shutting out the distractions of the world, and then when I have found inner quiet, to ask God to grant me guidance. When I have done so I most often gain understanding that I have been full of pride or vanity, and that my anger is inexcusable. Do not take me wrong and dwell on this, for surely you will find that with repentance God forgives you. Yet in the realization of this repentance my anger is neutralized because I must abandon it. While I cannot claim that I am never angry and never act because of it by any means, I can be better because I realize that my anger is sin and I cannot embrace it without turning away from my embrace of God. Pray daily and you will find that the peace of God surpasses all understanding.

To my sister DawnGordon (I apologize if I butchered that) I would in seriousness warn you against any anger. Though we all feel a reflection of God's righteous anger at times, I don't think we can categorize OUR anger as righteous any time because we ourselves are not righteous (no, not one ;-)) I think you will find that Christ could have righteous anger because he was divine and without sin, yet you will not find righteous anger of any mortal in the new testament. I hope you might reflect on this and find meaning.

Peace be with you all.

P.S.- Christianity is a comfortable thing (to quote the old Book of Common Prayer) here in the US. I would love to know what it is like to be Christian in Alexandria, especially given the rich history of that Patriarchate long ago.

 

[trucker]

Too nice is to hard

Though we all feel a reflection of God's righteous anger at times, I don't think we can categorize OUR anger as righteous any time because we ourselves are not righteous (no, not one ;-)) I think you will find that Christ could have righteous anger because he was divine and without sin, yet you will not find righteous anger of any mortal in the new testament. I hope you might reflect on this and find meaning.

Hello all, just a quick reply to a couple of the post. Coconut, I tell you what I would do if I hit my thumb. I would say, "Shucky darn" I hit my thumb. LOL. No, I would need the band aids for my mouth.

I would like to address something I saw in one of the post. In quoting Romans 3: 10 you must read the entire chapter to put it into context. When it states there is none righteous he is talking about all men in Adam. Paul is describing mankind without Christ. But in verses 21-25 he talks about we are all justified freely by his grace through Christ Jesus. Keep reading on into Romans 4 and look at verse 5-6. Your acceptance of Jesus Christ makes you righteous. II corth 5: 17-21 tells us that Christ became sin for us that you might be made the righteousness of God. The righteousness you now have is not your own, it’s a free gift from God. (See Isa 54: 13-17)We are no longer Sinners saved by Grace, you are righteous people who sin on occasion, but now have the ability to be cleansed of our unrighteous acts by asking for forgiveness. You are righteous now. If not, you will never get into Heaven because a sinner is in Adam and still has the old nature. He never accepted Jesus Christ as savior.

You’re now a new creature in Christ. If you think you’re an old sinner saved by Grace, you will still be sin conscientious and never experience the full freedom found in your redemption in Christ. You’re not considered a sinner by God anymore; you are considered his son and daughters. Your new nature is pure and righteous. The first 11 chapters of Romans are establishing that. You died with Christ to your old nature which was in Adam. You are now to consider yourself dead to sin and alive unto righteousness.

Having said all that, yes, you can have a righteous indignation or anger. You have the very nature of God in you and what God dislikes, so do you.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

Though we all feel a reflection of God's righteous anger at times, I don't think we can categorize OUR anger as righteous any time because we ourselves are not righteous (no, not one ;-))

Laudite: Your allusion to Romans 3:12c ("There is no one who does good, not even one.") does not support your claim that we are all unrighteous. Romans 3:10-12 refers to people who are under the law and not under grace.

True believers in Christ are not unrighteous. Romans 3:21-23 says, "But now a righteousness from God apart from law has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."

SLE

 

[Maureen]

Proverbs 15 v 18
A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.
Proverbs 15 v 1
A soft answer turneth away wrath, but grievious words stir up anger

This second Proverb I always finds helps me to control anything I would feel wanting to stir up inside me.
It has helped me out on numerous occasions.
Especially for those hard to handle Mum's I have one of those as well.

Laudite
John Bunyan, wouldn't take to kindly to you mentioning the book of common prayer, he went to jail for refusing to read from it, he believed all prayer should come from the heart not a book. I have great respect for him.

 

[Maureen]

Trucker
I have copied and pasted your posts and am going to use them in a bid to try and win back 2 souls who have backsliden.
I have printed them out, and am going to pass them on when we hold their Grand-daughters dedication service in our house very soon, well she's our grand-daughter also, but it gives me an opportunity to approach them.
what you wrote says much about what it takes to hang onto Jesus and apparently the husband thought it was too hard to be a Christian so he gave up, following his wifes decision to do it firstly.

I have to try to do something and if it fails well then at least I tried.
So thank you for your writings, they will be very needed.

 

[Laudite]

Hey guys, thanks for the thoughtful posts, but I'm a little confused. So I went back and read my Romans, and I read two things differently than ya'll. First, and I've reread this three times now, I think Paul is talking to the jewish Roman church members about their complaining about how sinful the gentile Roman church members are. It seems to me that the jewish church members (refering to their cultural origin, not religious practice) are by definition members of the body of Christ (especially given the comparably steep obstacles to becoming a full church member in those days) and so since Paul's warning is to them, it cant be to people under the law. Furthermore, in the section from which this writing comes, it looks to me like Paul has explicitly transitioned in 2:1 at 'Therefore you, O man' And if indeed he is addressing those under the law (and the law alone, I guess) it is difficult for me to make sense of 2:4 'Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?' since repentance and God's forbearance are the very things that save us from our sin and justify us.

The message that I get from this part of Romans (I think that he gets into the law (ie to the Jews) and not the law (ie those Roman gentiles) and why the law is good but not sufficent, but neither is the Roman tradition entirely without merit in order to further mend the rift between parties) is that you really shouldn't point the finger because you repent and then sin again just like everyone else (this seems eminently true) and you have the choice of either spurning god's forgiveness or accepting your neighbors. This appears to be in line with Jesus' not throwing the first stone thing.

Again, I think my press is valid- I don't see any examples of those persons who are not God having righteous anger. Several examples of censure and advice, but not anything I'd call anger.

If I'm not reading Paul correctly, I hope you might help me see it.

 

[cerebus]

john 2:15 And having made a whip out of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, as well as the sheep and the oxen, and He poured out the money of the moneychangers and overturned their tables.
2:16 And to those who were selling the doves He said, Take these things away from here; do not make My Father's house a house of merchandise.

<---Angry Jesus

Acts 23:3 Then Paul said to him, God is going to strike you, you whitewashed wall. And do you sit to judge me according to the law, and contrary to the law you order me to be struck?
Gal 5:12 I wish that those upsetting you would even cut themselves off.
11:29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is stumbled, and I myself do not burn?

<---Angry Paul

Rev 14:10 He also shall drink of the wine of the fury of God, which is mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath; and he shall be tormented in fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb.
14:19 And the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth and cast it into the great winepress of the fury of God.
14:20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress up to the bridles of the horses for a thousand six hundred stadia.

<---Angry God

 

[cerebus]

Laudite it helps if you see Romans in its proper sections. The part beginning 'therefore you are without excuse' is as you have rightly noted a transition from the earlier part. Previously he was directing his diatribe at mankind generally, condemning them universally for their unbelief and licentious living.

Now he turns to the religionists specifically, since it would be easy for a self-righteous person reading that passage to feel that it didn't apply to him. The sum total of these passages are that all of mankind, whether religious or heathen, is under God's condemnation.

 

[Property Of God]

By Jesus never getting angry I actually meant he never hurt anyone by it, he was very self controlled and careful, people now when they get angry, they do the stupidest things ever, and they always regret it because they didn't have any self control or respect.

Jesus had a righteous anger, I don't always have that.

 

[Maureen]

Is was the great world reknown Evangelist Dr Billy Graham, now in his eighties, who penned the phrase "The heart is a rebel" So it is, we all have to master it.

Stephen
just to mention, Billy Graham's son Franklin has been here in the country were I live, N.Ireland for 3 nights, I attended the first night, he has the markings of his Father, spiritual and paternal.
Over 7,000 were in attendance, many answered to the alter call.
I pray they will continue in the walk they have begun, and the Lord Jesus will hold each one closely as they go on.
I did ask my husband to go but he didn't want to.
At least I asked him.

Trucker
the Dedication was cancelled, the Mother of the child didn't think it grand enough, but it's to be in a church they've had to attend for 3 months for the Minister to carrry it out, Christening, I think.
But I still have those pages printed out and will give them on that day.
My son who is the Dad told me yesterday (Sunday) that he had took part in The Lord's Table at that church, obviously it hadn't been explained to him as he's not saved, but knew no differant.
I gave him a brief explaination, but have since typed more up for him, in simple terms, so he can read at his own pace.

Living with an unsaved husband, tries my patience, but I find now that each time something flares up, I am progressing better as to not loose it, this last bout was the best so far, but it really isn't in my strength, I can't He can, praise Him.
I still had to ask forgiveness for not holding it completely, but I do know putting under submission our mind and thoughts makes a great differance.

Narmeen
ask God to put His smile on your face when you can't find your own.
I always did this, and you've just reminded me of it thank you sis.