True or false?

[Brighthouse]

Sometimes when we believe we have heard from the Lord in some fashion,many speak as if they have heard from the Lord,they call this faith. My mindset is as such that when I believe the Lord has spoke to me,I like to share this with others,because I believe one should always test every spirit! Most Prophecy is very general in nature,I guess this is because the person speaking it wishes to make sure to the others,they are not wrong about a date, a time, and or a place.We know only in part,so from the part reveled to us,those of us in Christ Jesus always wish to have others check in there own selfs whether this confirms something,or whether the writer may be in some error.

I believe all Gods children can have a word,but not all are prophets.I sure am not! I started writing this two other times here,but was told to stop,so I did,this is the third time I am writing this to you,and this time must be the correct time as I am being told to write this according to my faith in our Jesus.So here goes.About a month ago as I was in prayer,the Lord began to deal with me about what is going on presently in some of our churches. A new Age preaching,not founded upon the principles of the Bibles teaching but rather mans.The Word of God is most clear,about the preaching of many false brethern,I will not name them here,you know of who I speak already! ( acts 5:38-39)

Some of the men and women who preach and teach the word speak more upon themselves then Jesus,more upon there words of confession then upon God's word of confession.( matt 6:10) They say you already know the will of God,he lives in you,so why pray for his will? And since God created you in his own imagine you become like him! They hit the church with great feeling and emotion, so people fly 5 feet when touched by them,some roll around on the ground barking like some dog,and to the one who does not know the Lord, they would even think one has become possessed!

They fall forward and backward under some sort of,they say power of Holy Spirit. They sight scripture such as this one to prove there belief!( john 18:5-8) notice when Jesus said I am he, they fell backwards to the ground. But no where in the Word of God did Jesus cause any person to fall,or as they call it be slain in the Spirit. Can the power of God fall upon a person? Of course! But when you look at Jesus and his disciples, it never happened to anyone they ever prayed for.( acts 8:9-25!!) there are many Simon's out there in the church today!

Many fall at there feet as if they were some kind of God or something! They are not brothers and sisters they are only men!! ( acts 10:24-26!!) verse 26 peter said!! I too am just a man! ( isaiah 43:10!!) There is no God before or after ME!!!! No little gods as is being preached to the church today! No disciple said to gather at a temple to have a miracle service,the disciples went out as Jesus did to the streets where the people were,not where they can gather at.So how is it these people with such big and great following do not follow the example of Jesus and the disciples? They preach and teach us as if this was true all along,and people are taken in by this!( 2 tim 4:2-5!!)

They want a show,and these people give them one! I never believed Jesus was a side show like a circus or something! But there are so many taken in by Simon. The day is coming the Lord told me,when the emotion and feeling of ones so called faith will be at an end! Feeling and emotion travel only so far,for they are both flesh in nature,true faith has no feeling or emotion to it! That is because faith is a gift wrapped in grace by Jesus himself!( eph 2:8-10). There was no feeling or emotion attached to this! We have feeling and emotion for a reason,our flesh has this, but not our Spirit! The purpose is to have a purpose! Feeling and emotion is not part of the faith walk,as many led us to believe! example!( matt 17:15-21) The disciples saw the boy rolling around as they commanded the demon to come out,there feeling told them that what they were doing was not working! Jesus told them that some demons come out only by prayer and fasting,and what is the purpose of this prayer and fasting? To set your mind correct!( Col 3:2-4)

To be prepared to not look to emotion or feeling as a confirmation of ones own faith!( Isaiah 58:6-11!!) This is a fast! Woe to those who do not hear the Word of God and keep it.Woe to those who look upon me( the Lord) with anything other then there heart and mind. For the day is coming, and very soon when my angel will come before me,to separate the wheat from the chaff,the light from the darkness,the truth, from the false.Take heed my children,look unto me!And ME ONLY!( proverbs 3:5-8) Follow after me!( psalms 100:1-5)

The new age teaching to the Church of Jesus today is not new,it is as old as the Word itself! ( gen 3:1-5!!) The serpent said you shall not die! verse 5!! you will be like God knowing good and evil! The sin of Adam was not in taking the fruit,the sin of Adam was his UNBELIEF!( gen 3:17). He choose to listen to a lie rather then asking God about it first! Had they asked him about this incident he would have told them! Wake up from your sleep some of you please!( rom 13:11-12) I am accountable to Jesus and to you all! You judge!You decide if my words have merit or if they do not,my purpose is to only fullfil what the Lord has told me to say here today. i will answer for it to!

I will not go before the Lord,and have him tell me,i told you to share this with my brothers and sisters and you would not! This New Age preaching, I call the spirit of the serpent.It looks great,the flesh loves the feeling and emotions that come from these meeting.but what happens 3 or 4 days after the meeting? The truth comes then! So why are still many preaching this with no account before the Lord it seems? Because Jesus can work and move,even among those who look to peddle him around!( 2 cor 11:10-15) ( 1 cor 2:14-17!!) So be made aware brothers and sisters!!

This may come as rather a shock to many,some will even become upset at the words i spoke as well!I know this! But I am accountable brothers and sisters,and what the Lord in me wishes for us all to do,is become accountable to HIM as well!( matt 12:36-37!) People do not go to hell because of sin,Jesus already paid the price for that,they go to hell because of there unbelief in all he did for us!!( rev 21:7-8) It is time the church woke from its sleep before it is to late! My the true love of Jesus and his grace be with us all,and comfort us with his truth!( 2 cor 1:3-7!!)

 

[Brother Paul]

So what are you taking issue with...pentecostals and charismatics who claim to have been slain in the Spirit? I agree there are a lot of fakes out there and in some circles the parish is actually taught to fall trusting there to be a catcher...however I have witnessed two people (one an atheist that had never been to a church) who got so ecstatic they literally fell out smashing their heads as they fell and waking later without a bump or even a headache....one is a serious Christian (George) from that moment on...they other (in a separate service all together) is now full of hate and mischief and is an alcoholic (Glynda)....I do read in the Bible however about a few (St. John for one) who fell down as dead...

Having said that, I do agree this showing shinanaginism and stage trickery along with psycho-emotional manipulation is not the Spirit...and that is not to say there are not many very real and genuine children of God among these two groups, because there are...

 

[Brighthouse]

I remember brother Paul, so many years ago now,I got invited to a meeting where Kenneth Hagin( now deceased) was speaking at,I was going to college at the time,and the doctors said to me that I had two ulcers to which it would cost me a great deal of money to have them taken care of. LONG Story made short! I went to the meeting with my Pastor and his wife,and at the end of the meeting brother Hagin asked for those who needed healing to please come up to the stage,he was led to do this he said. Now I had just received the Lord about 3 months earlier, and Holy Spirit( 1 cor 14:2)

I did not know or understand this slain business, although I had seen Oral Roberts so knew what to do.i went up there knowing I would fall backwards,knowing a man was there to catch me,so I figured what the heck,I will do this and see what happens,and what all this is about. lol Upon going up to the stage a few people were dropping like fly"s around me?? i asked if there was a doctor in the house to the person who fell before me in line,they laughted at me saying it was the Lord.The Lord? I was right next to them,why did I not fall? Still more laughter,so I stepped over the man, looking back ever so often to see if he got up. he did,went back to his seat.

Getting closer to the front now as more fell! i just stepped over them,i did not know what else to do! Finally i got up there,brother Hagin talked in english to about 20 people lined up until he got to me,then he spoke to me in a different language, I fell back on purpose, got caught,layed there for a few seconds,and wondered when I should just get up and go back to my seat.LOL Brother Hagin went by me, then stopped,now my eyes are closed,Hagin came back over me and said he did not get it,wait a minute there it is!

When he said wait a minute there it is,a power came over me, i had never felt! I could not move any of my body parts! It was like i was nailed to the floor!!LOL Brother Hagin continued, but the feeling that was over me,and it sure was one heck of a feeling covered me like a warm blanket,so peaceful,as if I had no weight,and i bathed in it, for what seemed like a few minutes,then the power left me,my mind was racing,hands move? yep.feet move? yep So I sat up,looked around people were around me,but not the same people i went up there with??strange?

When I got back to my seat I told my pastor what was in my mind going in, and what happened after,he laughted so hard he almost fell out of the seat he was in!?? I told him i was down for a few minutes,pastor looked at his watch and said I was down for 45 min!!!WHAT?? I told him I truly believe Jesus touched me,and that I was going back to my doctor, to have another examine! I did, he was not happy I asked him either! Again making this as short as I can,he came back after 30 min and told me to come in his office,he showed my the x ray I took with him a few days ago, then showed me the xray he just took! The ulcers were gone!!

A cross formed over where the two ulcers were!! he asked me what happened!!I told him the whole story as I am telling you,and he became a believer in Jesus that very day!LOL So brother Paul,God has purpose in all things he does to each of us,and what they are only the one who receives,knows for sure,I know you are correct in what you have said! But I look at that like this!( Acts 5:38-39) I only can speak for myself brother,I sure know the power of God is very real,as I am sure you do as well! I do not worry what others say or think,I am concerned about my own relationship with the Lord,and let others be concerned as they will. ( john 18:4-9) an example of falling. I do not like the word slain bro.hehe but thanks so much for your topic! hope this helps you!Blessing to all!

 

[Brother Paul]

Indeed! Brother I think we were saying the same thing...there are a lot of fakes but also a lot of the genuine and they are often in the same church meetings...the same with some in the pastorate. Some are con-men but even so sometimes God uses them. Some are obviously false prophets, but sometimes God even uses them...heck God will even speak through an Donkey if it accomplishes His purpose.

What happened to you is not an unusual testimony...I have one very similar...but you at least realize that many of the other fallers were just faking it because it was expected of them. Ever wonder why EVERYBODY at a Benny Hinn meeting falls down? Do you see this in the Bible? How about hear about it in the teachings of the Apostles or the early church?

I remember a church here in Massachusetts where the Pastor and his wife use to teach people HOW to speak in tongues so when they were up on stage being baptized they would rise up speaking in tongues (but alas...to the unwary and gullible it seemed miraculous but in reality it was a farce and a shame to the name) and rest assured you could buy plenty of recommended and sometimes required CDs and books coming in or going out....

Look at Oral Roberts...the Lord truly use to use him, but somewhere he began using the Lord...like making up an 8 ft Jesus (he lied to raise money, filthy lucre)...how about the guy who needed 1500 people to sow a $1,000 seed...4700 people later he was still saying it was God's will....as he shuffles off in his personal lear jet to Hong Kong to have new suits made by Sammy the Tailor (boastfully while owning boastfully 500 suits) stopping off at Hawaii for lunch....telling the poor in his flock the reason they are still poor is because they do not sow enough...

Sorry....I wish and pray they would repent but the Lord knows them that are His...

In His love

Brother Paul

 

[Brighthouse]

Indeed Brother. For we are not like many, pedding the Word of God,but as from SINCERITY,but as from God we speak in Christ in the sight of God. 2 cor 2:17