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Under Grace : How ??

Bethel

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Reader,

This short Thread will help you to spot people who do not understand Salvation, and whose Theology opposes God's Grace.
And, it'll help you if you worry about "sin".


A.) Jesus said from The Cross... "IT <...... is finished"

So, what is "it"?
?
?

Let me show you from the word.

1.) Jesus said..."""""
I come to do thy will, O God. = He taketh away the first, that He may establish the second."""" (Hebrews Chapter 10)

So, this is explaining that through Jesus's sacrifice, (The Cross) .... God has removed the Old Covenant, that is Law and Commandments, and replaced it with the New Covenant, which is... The Grace of God. The Mercy of God. The "Blood atonement".
Notice. .. "The Law came by Moses (there is your 1st Covenant) but ""Grace and TRUTH, came by Jesus"" = there is your NEW Covenant, which is the NEW Testament.

Now to get INTO the New Covenant, .. Jesus said.. ."you must be BORN....again".
So, until a person come to Faith in Christ and is born again, .. then they remain under the 1st (Old) Covenant, = Under the Law, and "by the Law is the knowledge of Sin".

The Good News, is...."Christ has Redeemed us from the Curse of the LAW"..... "Christ is the END of the Law for Righteousness, to/for everyone who BELIEVES"...
And the """curse""" is to be under the Law, which allows the Law to judge you as a SINNER.
So, the Grace of God, is the NEW Covenant, that takes the LAW's dominion off of you forever, and puts you here...= "Not under the Law, but under Grace".

See that Grace of God?
That is the NEW Covenant, and that is where God spiritually rejoins Mankind for eternity... , only based on the Cross of Christ.

Now one more....
Jesus said "IT"......"is finished"?
What is finished?

A.) Our Salvation......, as Jesus just finished it, and told you...."IT", our Salvation, is FINISHED.

How did He do that?

A.) """"For God hath made JESUS to be sin for us""".... and what does that do for you?
A.) "Jesus is the one time.....ETERNAL.....Sacrifice for SIN"....

This :

"""""This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more."""""

Notice carefully Reader....., their """SINS and Iniquities"""" = """God will remember = no more.""""

So how did that happen, ?? What caused God to never again see your sin, or you as a sinner... ???? (If you are born again, and not just water baptized and religious). ??

A.) """" But this Man, Jesus The Christ"....after HE had offered ONE sacrifice for sins FOREVER on the Cross.....sat down on the right hand of God""

Reader, did you notice that the sacrifice for your SINS, is "FOREVER"..
That means yesterday, today, and forever.

This means that you are forgiven, FOREVER.. As Salvation is not a part time Redemption, ...it is ETERNAL ... = "forever".

And.....The Reason that Jesus sat down after He returned to Heaven, is because "IT"... Your Salvation..."Is FINISHED", and if you are born again, you now belong to God for as long as God lives.

Now.
Do you see the completeness of the Cross of Christ, as your Salvation?
So, the answer is...."JESUS is your Salvation"... just like He is your Eternal LIFE.
And JESUS is inside you, as "Christ IN YOU, the hope of Glory"...if you are born again, and you now exist as "IN Christ", = "ONE with God".

For how long?
For as long as God and Christ LIVE.

NOW, edited, do not understand this at all.
They do not understand "FOREVER".
They do not understand "COMPLETED".
They do not understand "God Grace"
They do not understand the "IT is finished".
They do not understand the "Blood Atonement".

So, what will teach you, is that Jesus STARTED your Salvation, and now its on your back to complete it, by SELF EFFORT, .....which is manufactured Self Righteousness.
And THAT Theology, that tells you that you are still a sinner, and you have sin,= denies the Cross of Christ and Rejects the Grace of God, and is designed to deceive you and keep you away from the Truth.
 
Reader..

Salvation is based on Jesus on the Cross, paying for all your sin, forever.
If it didn't , then you'd still have them, and be on your way to hell.

Notice....

"God hath made JESUS... to be SIN for us".

Which?

ALL OF THEM..

"Jesus is the ONE TIME.... ETERNAL... Sacrifice for sin".

So, now.....notice this again.. that i wrote in the THREAD.

A.) """" But this Man, Jesus The Christ"....after HE had offered ONE sacrifice for sins FOREVER on the Cross.....sat down on the right hand of God""

So, once the believer understands FOREVER, then when you read a verse in the bible that indicates that sin is present, then you know that this verse is not talking to someone who is "made righteous", having become = the "righteousness of GOD, in Christ".

Those verses are speaking to The unbelievers, who have their, sin, who are 1 John 1:9.

Whereas....

The born again , are this..... 1 John 3:9

Amazing that in these end times, so called "Christians" who claim they are saved for decades, still have no idea that Jesus came to deal with all SIN., and did, which explains these verses.

John 3:17
2 Corinthinans 5:19


= all sin is dealt with....Not just some of it.
Salvation is not part time.
Eternal Life is not Temporary,.

But "FOREVER" is the answer = "ONE TIME>.. Eternal Sacrifice for SIN" = Christ on The Cross.

"SIN" is plural... = all of it, is taken care of by the BLOOD of JESUS.

So, Believers are not to run around worrying about sin, that Christ became and died to remove... and did.
Believers are to understand who they have become "IN CHRIST"....and why and teach that, and not create Churches and FORUMS and Threads and Posts... to try to deny the Cross, and reject the Grace of God.
And then when they read this verse, they will understand "Forever" and "made righteous"... as ONE TRUTH.

= "As Christ is, so are the born again , in THIS WORLD"..


So, does Christ have sin?

DOES CHRIST HAVE SIN ???

And the born again are "IN Christ"..,. "made righteous".., "ONE with God".
 
Greetings in the Lord
Amen and Amen.
The whole worlds sins hang on the cross of Christ.
Our sins are not hanging on Him or believers, but on the cross.
God's law is what brought me to my knees. For I was still under the law.
Faith in Christ's blood atonement is what lifted me up.
I have been made free of sin and death, and they were blotted out and remembered no more.
Now I (we) have work to do. He didn't create us to be hidden away...waiting on the Lord.
He is waiting on one, to believe.

All praise glory and honor be unto God. Amen
And praise God for you posting such a wonderful spirit led message.
 
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