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Understanding the holy spirit

novelist

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I was hoping to find someone to guide me to understanding the Holy Spirit. I received the baptism in July. I have been learning some stuff but I would appreciate it if anyone who has the knowledge of the Holy Spirit to share with me their insights.
 
Thats fabulous Novelist, there are several threads here at TJ you can read and get some help.

Look in the bible study forum, "the gifts of the HolySpirit". You can also do a search.
 
If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him
John 14:15-17
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 14:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
John 15:26
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
John 16:8-11
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
John 16:13-14
Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:38
And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Acts 5:32
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned(distinguished). But he that is spiritual judgeth(distinguishes) all things, yet he himself is judged(distinguished) of no man.
1 Cor 2:12-15
 
So Much To Learn

To truly understand the Holy Spirit, Is to have him be active in your understanding and to partake in His guidance , you must be born again.

You said that: " I received the baptism in July". This can be a contreversal subject but, do you mean the baptism of water or the baptism of the Holy Spirit or both? Have you had a noticeable change in your life since this event in July?
 
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Yes, I have been born-again since 2000. I received the baptism of the Holy Spirt in July. Yes, I have noticed a major change in me. My husband told my pastor's wife that I am a different person. I am going through a spiritual journey and it has been by affliction and it has not been pleasant.

I am a self-published author and after an incident last month, the LORD kicked me out of bed one morning and said "Write that book now." I really didn't think I had much to say but I found out I have a lot to say. I am still working on it but I have no ending yet.
 
Yes, I have been born-again since 2000. I received the baptism of the Holy Spirt in July. Yes, I have noticed a major change in me. My husband told my pastor's wife that I am a different person. I am going through a spiritual journey and it has been by affliction and it has not been pleasant.

I am a self-published author and after an incident last month, the LORD kicked me out of bed one morning and said "Write that book now." I really didn't think I had much to say but I found out I have a lot to say. I am still working on it but I have no ending yet.

In your opening thread, you wrote: "I was hoping to find someone to guide me to understanding the Holy Spirit ".

I don't understand your affliction but, since you have given your testimony, I would think that the Holy Spirit would be teaching about himself, especially through His word, the Bible.

If your looking for something more specific, I would need to know that, otherwise, I would think you would know him personally already and be growing in that, though your "unpleasant" experience your having concerns me.

Since we live in the New Covenant and you want to learn more about how the Holy Spirit relates to us, I would suggest you give the following website a complete look over:
www.realanswers.net
 
I am getting to know the Holy Spirit by Him revealing Himself to and speaking to me. I just wanted to know if anyone would share their experiences with getting to know the Holy Spirit.

Basically my journey has a whole lot to do with finances and obedience. I had to give up control and give it over to God. My problem was whenever I saw a problem with the finances I tried to fix them but instead made them worse until they were so big that they were out of control and I couldn't handle them. I am far from out of the woods with this subject.

I have been writing since 1972, but have been writing for the LORD since 2000. I have self-published a few books but I've gotten nowhere with my books. My former publisher got me book signings and I did a little research on that to help my marketing rep. The problem with the book signings is I went out for profits and not on why I was writing for God.

As to the unpleasant experience...long story...God and Satan squared off and fought in a spiritual warfare for me. Before that battle got started, I was given Jeremiah 46 which were my marching orders for this battle. Believe it or not, since I had received the baptism of the Holy Spirit about a week or two before this happened, I basically saw God and Satan square off. In a sense I was looking at this from my spiritual eye...I couldn't really see it but I felt it coming and that in itself was scary.

God has a specific plan for my writing and Satan knows that plan and he wanted to stop it. Last June I was given a Word from the LORD and it explains what God wants to do with my writing. At the time I wasn't ready to accept that and ran like the wind. However, early on I did a lot of studying in the Prophets and I was given Ezekiel 3 and 33.

I mentioned "I ran like the wind" but I wasn't able to out run that personal prophecy...because in March I bought a commentary of the Book of Ezekiel and took notes. I really couldn't figure out what my fascination with Ezekiel was because he was one weird guy. I kind of identify with him though because I'm weird myself. One day God told me weird is normal for me. Anyway several weeks later I found out why I was studying the book of Ezekiel...God laid 2 book ideas on my heart...one a fiction book to which I am accustomed to writing and the other a non-fiction book. I don't even read non-fiction and don't much care to write it, but the title of the book is Judgment Comes! It is a comparison between the destruction of Jerusalem back in Ezekiel's day and what is happening today in America.

Someone suggested that I keep a spiritual journal and I began that last week.

I have been writing all these things in my book about my spiritual journey. Last year I told my pastor that I was writing in a notebook what I thought God was saying to me, and he told me that notebook would be the bases for my writing. I didn't think too much about it at the time, but it actually is. I have also been writing in other little notebooks and they are being used as well.

I have had one weird year but I am used to weird. I've often said I was borderline strange and if I slipped to the other side no one would notice. I've done slipped to the other side a long while back and I definitely noticed it.
 
I was hoping to find someone to guide me to understanding the Holy Spirit. I received the baptism in July. I have been learning some stuff but I would appreciate it if anyone who has the knowledge of the Holy Spirit to share with me their insights.


The Father sits on heavens very throne.
Jesus sits at His right hand making constant intercession for us.
The Holy Spirit is the One who dwells in us and walks with us
The Holy Spirit is our constant companion.
It is He who gives revelation in the Truth and without Him we could comprehend nothing of God's Word or His heart.
The Holy Spirit is our Comforter.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
This Comforter is our Paraclete or the "one who walks with us"
From the Vines Expository Dictionary of the New Testament:
5. parakletos (G3875), lit., "called to one's side," i.e., to one's aid, is primarily a verbal adjective, and suggests the capability or adaptability for giving aid. It was used in a court of justice to denote a legal assistant, counsel for the defense, an advocate; then, generally, one who pleads another's cause, an intercessor, advocate, as in 1Jo_2:1, of the Lord Jesus. In the widest sense, it signifies a "succorer, comforter." Christ was this to His disciples, by the implication of His word "another (allos, "another of the same sort," not heteros, "different") Comforter," when speaking of the Holy Spirit, Joh_14:16. In Joh_14:26; Joh_15:26; Joh_16:7 He calls Him "the Comforter." "Comforter" or "Consoler" corresponds to the name "Menahem," given by the Hebrews to the Messiah.


The Holy Spirit is our Teacher.
He is the very power of God come to dwell in our inner man.
He is the very life of God come to flow in and through us bringing life to all He touches.
Like Jesus Christ our Lord (though God He walked as a man for our example) we are to be Led of the Holy Spirit and do no work but in the power of the Holy Spirit. We are to "walk in the Spirit" - that is to walk in complete submission to and total dependence on Him.


Rom 15:30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;


Through scripture we know these things about the Holy Spirit:
He is so precious to the Father that He would not send Him until Jesus Himself asked.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Though He is God Himself in all His power He is easily grieved and easily quenched being gentle and loving in nature.
As Christians we know He walks beside us every day longing to be a part of every detail in our life. He wants to be a part of our work, school, play, relationships, decisions and etc to the tiniest degree He wants to be there . As Teacher, Helper, Comforter, Guide and so much more. We must become "God conscience" or in other words we must learn to become aware of the fact that we are indwelt by and in the very presence of the precious Holy Spirit of God each moment.

Gal 5:16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
There is no desire to sin when we are cognizant of His manifest presence, we learn to love Him and appreciate His fellowship. We become sensitive to His leading and love to bring joy to Him. He reveals the Father to us, He reveals Jesus to us, He reveals the Word to us. We become so involved in this loves relationship that it would break our heart to think of grieving Him, That my friend is the walk we are called to. That is the walk that is available to us even now.


Jesus walked in the power of the Spirit. In the power of the Holy Spirit He brought life, revealtion, healing and even raised the dead.
So dear friend let us walk in that to which we are called that we may manifest the very nature of that Holy Vine through which all goodness flows:

Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth);
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Walking in the Spirit produces this godly fruit.

1Pe 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
The Holy Spirit empowers us to obey.

Php 2:1 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,
We are called to fellowship with Him; to share every moment of every day in this holy fellowship.
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

1Th 5:19 Quench not the Spirit

He is awesome in power but gentle in nature. He will not force but rather lovingly draw and convict.

1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
As the Holy Spirit gives us eyes to see our Lord Jesus Christ and draws us ever closer to His heart we are daily changed into His very likeness.

Rom 8:1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.



1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.


1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
1Co 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
1Co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Eph 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Eph 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

Eph 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Eph 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
Eph 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
Eph 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
Eph 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
 
One baptism, multiple fillings:

John the Baptist prophesied that Jesus Christ Himself would give us one baptism:

Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, John 1:33.
This Baptism is the life and power of the Vine sent from heaven to fill empower our earthly walk (like Jesus).
We are given a call to continually be filled with the Holy Spirit.
Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Be ye filled
Though the Baptism of the Holy Spirit was poured out on the day of Pentecost this infilling was repeated (one Baptism, another filling).
We as willing vessels are poured out daily and need a fresh touch from heaven to empower and lead us; to impact the world around us for Christ and to bear fruit for His kingdom.
Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Act 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Act 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.


Act 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
 
Thank you for your insight, you have been most helpful. God bless you.

You are quite welcome my friend.

The Old Testament is a type and shadow of the New Testament.
The Blood of the Lamb (Jesus Christ) was applied to the Mercy Seat which covered the Law. Only in this place of forgiveness can God and man meet. It is only where the Blood of the Lamb is applied that the Oil (anointing of the Holy Spirit) was allowed to flow.
No blood = no oil.
No salvation = no Holy Spirit.


The baptism of the Holy Spirit can only be given to the born again, blood bought children of God.
 
You are quite welcome my friend.

The Old Testament is a type and shadow of the New Testament.
The Blood of the Lamb (Jesus Christ) was applied to the Mercy Seat which covered the Law. Only in this place of forgiveness can God and man meet. It is only where the Blood of the Lamb is applied that the Oil (anointing of the Holy Spirit) was allowed to flow.
No blood = no oil.
No salvation = no Holy Spirit.


The baptism of the Holy Spirit can only be given to the born again, blood bought children of God.

Agreed!
No Blood = no forgiveness

God said (paraphrasing): with out the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
The reverse is also true: No Holy Spirit = No salvation.
 
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