UNIVERSALISM : A Free Ticket To HELL

[Bethel]

Reader..

If you are an unbeliever...... If you are not a Christian......

And i told you that there is no need for you to Trust in Christ.....there is no need for you to Believe In Jesus... there is no need for you to Receive Christ as your Savior.. and there is no need for you to come to Jesus so that He can forgive your sins...

= Because you are already saved...........,If i told you that.... Then i have just sent you to Hell, if you die in the next 5 mins.

See that?

I would have completed the Devils Eternal MISSION against you, on His Behalf.

Understand?

So, Reader, if you are an unbeliever, if you are not a Christian... and someone on This Forum, or in your life, tells you that you are already forgiven by God... already Saved.. already a Christian, and you know that you have never trusted in CHRIST... then the person lying to you, is trying to send you to HELL.

Understand?

So, what im describing is the Damnation CULT... Theology that is : UNIVERSALISM.

UNIVERSALISM, .. Has no Faith in Christ in it.... Its has no Need to Trust in Christ as its = True Gospel.

UNIVERSALISM, is very similar to Gnosticism... as Gnosticism, as created by Valentinus (the Father of Gnosticism)... teaches that there is no SIN.., .so, there is no need for Jesus on the Cross to forgive your sin.

So, UNIVERSALISM .. is really teaching the same thing.. by teaching that you are already forgiven, without EVER.. Trusting in Christ.
Now, This Cult Teaching will misuse a couple of verses that speak about God "reconciling the world to Himself"... to DENY that for God to give you His reconciliation, you have to put your Trust in Christ.
As that is your FAITH... and "FAITH is counted by God, (on your behalf) as (Christ's) Righteousness, given to you as "the Gift of Righteousness".

So, to receive this Eternal Gift, you have to place your faith in Christ, and UNIVERSALISM, denies this TRUTH.

UNIVERSALISM... which is a thoroughly evil "doctrine of Devils" will lead you to believe that all you have to do, is simply be born on this earth, and you are automatically forgiven your sin always, and are a Christian.... always... Always headed to Heaven, even tho you have never Trusted in Christ.

A.) Now that is a Lie of the Devil, and UNIVERSALISM , is one of the Devil's finest LIES.

Do not believe it.
Do not listen to the people who teach the Lie of Universalism.... who are so deceived that they would tell you that everyone is already Saved, which is a serious = Blasphemy against the Spirit of God..

Avoid this teaching, and Avoid these people who teach the "doctrine of devils".. Hebrews 13:9....that is....the Demonic Lie that is : UNIVERSALISM.

 

[Bethel]

And again.
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1.) Lets say you are not a Christian.

You're not born again.. You've never Trusted IN Christ... You never cared.........and you still dont.

Then, someone who teaches UNIVERSALISM............tells you...>>"You're saved... You're a Christian......Everyone Is".

So, Reader..... what has just happened to the unbeliever?

= .) > They remain an unbeliever, ...not born again.......falsely believing they are going to Heaven.

So, this means they are going to HELL,.. John 3:36..... believing they are not,.......... because a Universalist, has just sent them there.


2.) Universalism, is Satanic, as it completely eliminates "FAITH", and "Justification by Faith"..

UNIVERSALISM denies that Jesus said "YOU must be born again".. .by lying this lie... "you already are"... "everyone is saved".

Universalism .. this Lie of the Devil.... is literally teaching that the Born again and the Christ Rejector, are THE SAME.

Universalism says that Jesus is a LIAR.. as Jesus said..."unless you believe in me, you shall die in your sins"..

Universalism teaches that the Christ Rejector and the CHRISTian... are Both are Saved... are .Both are going to Heaven.

That is a Satanic Lie. It is a "DOCTRINE OF DEVILS"..... designed to send people to Hell.


A.) Do not trust people who teach this (Universalism) = Satanic Lie.. Do not believe their Lies.

 

[MedicBravo]

The Creator has stated who there are in this world and in the end.
Christians vs Pagans
There is no in-between.
No good Christian can "respect" or "affirm" any other religion or sin no matter who they are.
NEVER waste your time with an unbeliever or pagan regarding a romantic relationship.

Learn how to discern who is too far gone by God's standards and don't even talk to them let alone in your home.
Don't think you're the only person that will get them to God.

 

[KingJ]

Reader..

If you are an unbeliever...... If you are not a Christian......

And i told you that there is no need for you to Trust in Christ.....there is no need for you to Believe In Jesus... there is no need for you to Receive Christ as your Savior.. and there is no need for you to come to Jesus so that He can forgive your sins...

= Because you are already saved...........,If i told you that.... Then i have just sent you to Hell, if you die in the next 5 mins.

See that?

I would have completed the Devils Eternal MISSION against you, on His Behalf.

Understand?

So, Reader, if you are an unbeliever, if you are not a Christian... and someone on This Forum, or in your life, tells you that you are already forgiven by God... already Saved.. already a Christian, and you know that you have never trusted in CHRIST... then the person lying to you, is trying to send you to HELL.

Understand?

So, what im describing is the Damnation CULT... Theology that is : UNIVERSALISM.

UNIVERSALISM, .. Has no Faith in Christ in it.... Its has no Need to Trust in Christ as its = True Gospel.

UNIVERSALISM, is very similar to Gnosticism... as Gnosticism, as created by Valentinus (the Father of Gnosticism)... teaches that there is no SIN.., .so, there is no need for Jesus on the Cross to forgive your sin.

So, UNIVERSALISM .. is really teaching the same thing.. by teaching that you are already forgiven, without EVER.. Trusting in Christ.
Now, This Cult Teaching will misuse a couple of verses that speak about God "reconciling the world to Himself"... to DENY that for God to give you His reconciliation, you have to put your Trust in Christ.
As that is your FAITH... and "FAITH is counted by God, (on your behalf) as (Christ's) Righteousness, given to you as "the Gift of Righteousness".

So, to receive this Eternal Gift, you have to place your faith in Christ, and UNIVERSALISM, denies this TRUTH.

UNIVERSALISM... which is a thoroughly evil "doctrine of Devils" will lead you to believe that all you have to do, is simply be born on this earth, and you are automatically forgiven your sin always, and are a Christian.... always... Always headed to Heaven, even tho you have never Trusted in Christ.

A.) Now that is a Lie of the Devil, and UNIVERSALISM , is one of the Devil's finest LIES.

Do not believe it.
Do not listen to the people who teach the Lie of Universalism.... who are so deceived that they would tell you that everyone is already Saved, which is a serious = Blasphemy against the Spirit of God..

Avoid this teaching, and Avoid these people who teach the "doctrine of devils".. Hebrews 13:9....that is....the Demonic Lie that is : UNIVERSALISM.

I agree with your concerns. Universalism in the context of automatically going to heaven as in a 'Calvinistic OSAS' type space is false teaching.

But, in my limited studies, this is not what universalists believe. They are mostly not Calvinists. They do believe all must be born again, repent Psalm 51:17, serve James 1:27 and if necessary be a martyr Rev 2:10. The difference in their belief verse others is only clearly evident when considering hell and punishment.

Universalism teaches that all will be reconciled with God. Hell, and whatever punishment God has planned is purely corrective and remedial.

Now, I would argue that all good people should agree with this. As a Christian we need to ask God why He does not agree with this. As scripture is crystal clear that hell is an eternal punishment.

When we ask God, we are led to Jer 17:9-10 The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings.

Only God can search the heart and mind of a person at a depth of intent required to make the decision, to grasp, that a person has absolutely no hope of ever repenting of their sin, never wanting to truly rehabilitate.

This understanding causes us to now look for examples in scripture where God gave up on mankind / angels because they were 'beyond' any hope. We see the following verses that suggest exactly that.

Gen 15:16 And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full measure.

Gen 18:20 Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous.

1 John 3:8 He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning.

Then, every scripture mentioning God hardening men's hearts. Most classic example to learn from I believe is Pharoah. Ten plagues, all increasing in severity, seeing the suffering of the Hebrews, and yet still remains disobedient to God's will. His heart was so hard and sold out to evil that even when he saw the red sea parting, he still pursued to kill Hebrew woman, children and men.

People go to hell because they reject Jesus. They reject Jesus because they love evil! Someone who loves evil, will never truly repent and only God can discern that!

John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

 

[Curtis]

Universalism is the Devil's gospel.

 

[KingJ]

Universalism is the Devil's gospel.

How so? We should all believe that we can rehabilitate the wicked.

It is not an evil belief, only an incorrect belief.

 

[Curtis]

How so? We should all believe that we can rehabilitate the wicked.

It is not an evil belief, only an incorrect belief.

It believes everyone will be eventually saved.

Universalism is a philosophical and theological concept.

• Christian theology: The belief that all people will be saved and reconciled with God, regardless of their actions or faith. Universalists believe that God's love and mercy extend to all people and that eternal punishment is inconsistent with a just and loving God.

 

[KingJ]

It believes everyone will be eventually saved.

Universalism is a philosophical and theological concept.

• Christian theology: The belief that all people will be saved and reconciled with God, regardless of their actions or faith. Universalists believe that God's love and mercy extend to all people and that eternal punishment is inconsistent with a just and loving God.

And, as I said in post #4, it is not an evil belief to believe all can be rehabilitated. It is only an incorrect belief.

You and @Bethel have harshly attacked those who believe this but are not explaining why it is evil (granted @Bethel took a stab at it).

What in the universe is evil with a belief that all will go to heaven one day after a session of punishment and rehabilitation?

I would argue that if you don't believe this, you have a lot more explaining to do. The average person with a working brain would far sooner digest this over eternal hell, why do you think that is?

 

[Curtis]

And, as I said in post #4, it is not an evil belief to believe all can be rehabilitated. It is only an incorrect belief.

You and @Bethel have harshly attacked those who believe this but are not explaining why it is evil (granted @Bethel took a stab at it).

What in the universe is evil with a belief that all will go to heaven one day after a session of punishment and rehabilitation?

I would argue that if you don't believe this, you have a lot more explaining to do. The average person with a working brain would far sooner digest this over eternal hell, why do you think that is?

Do you think a person in hell will be able to get out one day in the future?

 

[KingJ]

Do you think a person in hell will be able to get out one day in the future?

You are not reading or answering my post.

I said, it is an incorrect belief. So, no, I do not believe that, as explained in detail in post # 4.

Now, you need to explain to me why you say ''Universalism is the Devil's gospel.''.

Do you think that someone who believes in rehabilitation of the evil, when the alternative is punishment in ETERNAL FIRE, is evil?

 

[Curtis]

You are not reading or answering my post.

I said, it is an incorrect belief. So, no, I do not believe that, as explained in detail in post # 4.

Now, you need to explain to me why you say ''Universalism is the Devil's gospel.''.

Do you think that someone who believes in rehabilitation of the evil, when the alternative is punishment in ETERNAL FIRE, is evil?

Universalism :

• The belief that all people will be saved and reconciled with God, regardless of their actions or faith. Universalists believe that eternal punishment is inconsistent with a just and loving God.

Are any of these things true to you?

 

[KingJ]

Universalism :

• The belief that all people will be saved and reconciled with God, regardless of their actions or faith. Universalists believe that eternal punishment is inconsistent with a just and loving God.

Are any of these things true to you?

I do not agree with Universalism. But I do agree that those statements have truth to them.

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The statement that a just and loving God cannot eternally punish someone is sound and true.

Believing that all can be rehabilitated is something all good people should believe.

There is absolutely no evil in this belief. It is most certainly NOT something from the devil!!!!

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As a Christian, we need to explain how scripture gives us 'more' truth to consider. As I explain in detail in post # 4.

 

[Curtis]

Believing that all can be rehabilitated is something all good people should believe.

anyone can be saved if they put their faith in Jesus.

 

[Curtis]

The statement that a just and loving God cannot eternally punish someone is sound and true.

A just and loving God can and does allow people to suffer in hell of their own choosing.

 

[KingJ]

anyone can be saved if they put their faith in Jesus.

A just and loving God can and does allow people to suffer in hell of their own choosing.

You are not dealing with the point I made. You are correct in these two lines, but a Christian has to explain why eternal hell is just and faith in Jesus is good.

Universalism is a good belief to hold for someone who is not further enlightened, as Christians are.