Unpardonable sin...

[0dd0ne]

Right now, I hate my life. I feel so bad. To be honest, this really started after I heard about something called the unpardonable sin two months ago. I started to have really BAD thoughts about it, these thoughts said bad things like “God is ev**” or “he’s a de***”. Those are thoughts I do not agree with and do not believe. When I have these thoughts I fight back. I have told them to go away. I can sometimes distract myself from them but they are never REALLY gone. People tell me that I haven’t done it but I just don’t believe it no matter what people say to me. Some months ago I got saved but I don’t feel it? Mabye I really am lost. I feel like mabye I am a lukewarm Christian (I don’t know.) I feel like I am going to hell, but right now I feel like I’m in hell. I feel like God is punishing me for some sort of past sin. I’ve prayed the act of contrition so many times. I have heard that mabye there are demons in my head but I don’t think that’s true. Like I said I told them to go away but still they’re there. It’s either that or I have a really messed up mind. I’ve talked to other people about this and they say it’s OCD, I don’t have OCD or at least am not diagnosed with it. I don’t even know if those were intentional thoughts or not. I know that talking about this on the internet isn’t the best thing to do, but it’s my only choice because it’s not like I can drive to go see a priest because I can’t drive yet. After learning about this “unpardonable sin” I have never been the same. I’ve tried to tell my self no you haven’t done it and I’ve tried forget this, I can never forget. How can I not obsess over this anymore. Am I doomed to hell? Can someone please help?


Questions:

1) I’m really confused on the passage (Mark 3:28-30.) Jesus said “whatever blasphemies they utter” does that mean that it cannot be commited in your mind? but instead, is only possible to do it externally by saying it out loud?


2) I can’t remember if the scribes said something out loud or rather said something in their minds but I remember these scribes were so hardened of the heart they absolutely HATED Jesus and denied He was the Son Of GOD. Does that mean that it’s more than just thoughts/externally speaking but in order to do this blasphemy you needed to actually believe that he was evil?

 

[Dave M]

The bible does not say if you " think" blasphemies it is says if you say" them, so you thinking them is the devil stay strong brother. because I take it you are not saying them !!

the best way to grow in faith IMO
1. Read the bible daily
2. Pray daily
3. Serve God

Obedience has a direct relationship with faith IMO

Praying for you piece brother stay strong and use the word of God to guide you

 

[0dd0ne]

The bible does not say if you " think" blasphemies it is says if you say" them, so you thinking them is the devil stay strong brother. because I take it you are not saying them !!

the best way to grow in faith IMO
1. Read the bible daily
2. Pray daily
3. Serve God

Obedience has a direct relationship with faith IMO

Praying for you piece brother stay strong and use the word of God to guide you

So basically if I were to have a thought in my mind it would be more of a temptation to do it out loud?
I keep having the need to repeatedly say “He’s not evil” or “He’s not a demon” and more stuff in my head because I think that if I don’t say these things more blasphemy will pop up in my mind

 

[Dave M]

the thought is comming from the devil to confuse you IMO because you clearly are not liking the thoughts so they cant be your thoughts you are not behind the thoughts because you obviously upset about them.

 

[Brad Huber]

Often, what we think are "our" thoughts are actually whisperings of evil spirits in our minds. So these probably arent your thoughts, refuse to accept them as from you, and tell them to leave you in Jesus name.

 

[Dave M]

I think all of us at one time or another have had this happen, you are not alone do as Brother Brad suggest and never cease praying

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Often, what we think are "our" thoughts are actually whisperings of evil spirits in our minds. So these probably arent your thoughts, refuse to accept them as from you, and tell them to leave you in Jesus name.

Greetings @0dd0ne

I'm sure the devil loves playing games with our heart and mind by sowing seeds of doubt.
May I share my experience with you Oddone

When I was a teenager I determined to myself that I had committed this sin, I was almost in a panic state with worry. The more I hought about it, the more my thoughts condemned me. At a time of most desparate despair about this sin, I was trying to tune my dads old radio. The station I reached was playing a hymn....

Now I belong to Jesus
Jesus belongs to me
Not for the years of time alone
But for eternity

It was like a balm to my wearied heart and mind. I wept with joy at the love of the Lord coming through the radio. And to put a seal on this the hymn that followed was

Great is Thy faithfulness, O God my Father,
There is no shadow of turning with Thee;
Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not
As Thou hast been Thou forever wilt be.

I have never forgotten this and thank the Lord for His loving kindness in dealing with this despair.

May the Lord give you a clear sign Oddone, that you are His, that you are not lost.
The devil has no place in your heart and no right to plant thoughts nor seeds of doubt


Nay in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.
Romans 8:37

 

[0dd0ne]

Greetings @0dd0ne

I'm sure the devil loves playing games with our heart and mind by sowing seeds of doubt.
May I share my experience with you Oddone

When I was a teenager I determined to myself that I had committed this sin, I was almost in a panic state with worry. The more I hought about it, the more my thoughts condemned me. At a time of most desparate despair about this sin, I was trying to tune my dads old radio. The station I reached was playing a hymn....

Now I belong to Jesus
Jesus belongs to me
Not for the years of time alone
But for eternity

It was like a balm to my wearied heart and mind. I wept with joy at the love of the Lord coming through the radio. And to put a seal on this the hymn that followed was

Great is Thy faithfulness, O God my Father,
There is no shadow of turning with Thee;
Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not
As Thou hast been Thou forever wilt be.

I have never forgotten this and thank the Lord for His loving kindness in dealing with this despair.

May the Lord give you a clear sign Oddone, that you are His, that you are not lost.
The devil has no place in your heart and no right to plant thoughts nor seeds of doubt


Nay in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.
Romans 8:37

How do I know it’s the devil doing this? How do I know it’s not me? I’ve told these demons to go away in Jesus’ name but the thoughts still remain, I’ve heard that if you really are saved that you have the authority to tell them to get out, mabye I’m not saved?

 

[Dave M]

if you dont believe it then how can it be you??

 

[KingJ]

Questions:

1) I’m really confused on the passage (Mark 3:28-30.) Jesus said “whatever blasphemies they utter” does that mean that it cannot be commited in your mind? but instead, is only possible to do it externally by saying it out loud?


2) I can’t remember if the scribes said something out loud or rather said something in their minds but I remember these scribes were so hardened of the heart they absolutely HATED Jesus and denied He was the Son Of GOD. Does that mean that it’s more than just thoughts/externally speaking but in order to do this blasphemy you needed to actually believe that he was evil?

If you look at every account of God's wrath in the bible, you will see His wrath comes when peoples' sin is full measure. IE There is no more hope for them. So if you have committed the unpardonable sin, from which there is no hope left for you, you would be dead and in Hades. Not living and questioning as you are.

To your points.

1. The Holy Spirit is here to teach us about Jesus. Whoever blasphemes the Holy Spirit, rejects the Holy Spirit. Whoever rejects the Holy Spirit, rejects Jesus. Whoever rejects Jesus commits an unpardonable sin. Rejecting Jesus is the only sin that lands one up in hell. It is tied to blaspheming the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit does not speak of Himself. John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

2. Jesus said God must forgive them because they knew not what they were doing. This speaks to us being unable to blaspheme the Holy Spirit if we do not grasp / are not at a depth of intent of hatred for God.

God is good. You / we all just need to grow. We are all growing more and more day by day. The more I learn about God, the more I grasp He is good. There is a verse by David that is always on my mind Psalm 136:1 Give thanks, because God is good. There is also many verses like Acts 10:34 Of a truth I perceive, God is impartial. This truth was not previously ''perceived'' :smile:.

 

[Br. Bear]

@0dd0ne
Greetings,

How are you doing?
Do you mind if I ask if you have any fellowship with other believers at all?


Bless you ....><>

 

[0dd0ne]

@0dd0ne
Greetings,

How are you doing?
Do you mind if I ask if you have any fellowship with other believers at all?


Bless you ....><>

Hi, I’m kinda still in doubt. I do have fellowship with other believers but I asked them about this, and they don’t know what the unpardonable sin is. so irl I’m kinda stuck

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Greetings again @0dd0ne

The Lord loves you......the devil condemns.

Start to sing some songs of praise....give glory to the Lord.
Dont give place to the seeds of doubt.

I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help.
My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth.
He will not suffer thy foot to be moved: He that keepeth thee will not slumber.
Behold, He that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.
The LORD is thy keeper: the LORD is thy shade upon thy right hand.
The sun shall not smite thee by day, nor the moon by night.
The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil: He shall preserve thy soul.
The LORD shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in from this time forth, and even for evermore.
Psalm 121