Upon One Stone shall be seven eyes!

[StewardoftheMystery]

Zechariah 3:9
For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.”

Christ is the One Stone….

Matthew 21:42-44

King James Version

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42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.”

One stone with 7 eyes….

Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.”

The seven eyes are seven spirits…

Zechariah 4:10
For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the Lord, which run to and fro through the whole earth.”

Revelation 1:4
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Revelation 3:1
And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the sevenSpirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Revelation 4:5
And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were sevenlamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Upon One Stone there are 7 eyes/spirits…

Isaiah 11:2
“And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;”

1. The Spirit of the Lord
2. The spirit of wisdom
3. The spirit of understanding
4. The spirit of counsel
5. The spirit of might
6. The spirit of knowledge
7. The spirit of reverence/ fear

 

[2BeholdHisGlory]

Amen Bro, well put. Is it possible to refer to the Seven spirits of God as the very fulness of God as well? Even as it says, " For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell" or as it says, "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" and seeing the seven eyes upon him (the one stone) could be understood to be the fulness of God?

It says," And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Because it says of the same were sent forth into all the earth and at the same time it says in John 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. And again at the same time one Spirit is shown dividing severally (in which example includes the wisdom and knowledge included in Isaiah 11:2). Seems to show the one and selfsame Spirit (which divides severally) as being the same which manifests in the picture as seven horns and seven eyes upon one stone in Joshua (which are the seven spirits in Isaiah) between the pictures. See what I might mean?

Also we know Jesus is the stone that was rejected, and the Lamb that was slain (in both places referring to Jesus Christ) but when it speaks of the "engraving thereof" in Joshua (as it would pertain to a stone) in relation to the removing of the iniquity of that land in one day. Would you regard the "engraven thereof" to be speaking of the engraven upon the palms of his hands as mentioned in Isaia 49:16 in any sense of that picture along with these other pictures?

For example these perhaps

Zec 3:9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts,
and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.

Isaiah 49:16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

What do you think, is there more I can catch in this I might be missing?

Great post! I was up too late to respond last night so I jumped on this afternoon. God bless you Bro

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Amen Bro, well put. Is it possible to refer to the Seven spirits of God as the very fulness of God as well? Even as it says, " For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell" or as it says, "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" and seeing the seven eyes upon him (the one stone) could be understood to be the fulness of God?

It says," And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Because it says of the same were sent forth into all the earth and at the same time it says in John 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. And again at the same time one Spirit is shown dividing severally (in which example includes the wisdom and knowledge included in Isaiah 11:2). Seems to show the one and selfsame Spirit (which divides severally) as being the same which manifests in the picture as seven horns and seven eyes upon one stone in Joshua (which are the seven spirits in Isaiah) between the pictures. See what I might mean?

Also we know Jesus is the stone that was rejected, and the Lamb that was slain (in both places referring to Jesus Christ) but when it speaks of the "engraving thereof" in Joshua (as it would pertain to a stone) in relation to the removing of the iniquity of that land in one day. Would you regard the "engraven thereof" to be speaking of the engraven upon the palms of his hands as mentioned in Isaia 49:16 in any sense of that picture along with these other pictures?

For example these perhaps

Zec 3:9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts,
and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.

Isaiah 49:16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

What do you think, is there more I can catch in this I might be missing?

Great post! I was up too late to respond last night so I jumped on this afternoon. God bless you Bro

I’m not sure that the 7 spirits are the “fullness of God” mentioned there, it could be, but I’m not sure.

Also the engraving of the stone could be related to Isaiah 49:16, but again it is not something I am sure of as of yet.

I considered God’s name being the ingraving on the One stone, like God’s seal being placed upon Christ.

John 6:27
Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.”

So all good questions, but I can’t say for sure as of yet. Peace

 

[2BeholdHisGlory]

I’m not sure that the 7 spirits are the “fullness of God” mentioned there, it could be, but I’m not sure.

Also the engraving of the stone could be related to Isaiah 49:16, but again it is not something I am sure of as of yet.

I considered God’s name being the ingraving on the One stone, like God’s seal being placed upon Christ.

John 6:27
Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.”

So all good questions, but I can’t say for sure as of yet. Peace

For some reason I cannot now grab my notes on this over at this other forum but yeah, like what if each is true just described differently is all. The one Spirit, as a dove descended upon Christ with the Father's seal of approval (accompanied by His voice) after he was baptized by John. Christ is sealed by the Spirit of God. Christ being the stone (seven eyes) or seven spirits could almost similarly be noted elsewhere as one and the selfsame Spirit (sent out into all the earth) which is elsewhere called the fulness of him (or all the fulness of God) the Father was please to have dwell in him even as the church is to be filled with the one selfsame Spirit which divides severally as He wills.

Its just the way the one selfsame Spirit is shown to divide severally as He wills in one place whereas in the picture before Joshua pertaining to Jesus (the stone upon whom is seven eyes) which is noted to be the seven spirits of God could be what is referred to as the fulness of God (which God was pleased to have the fulness in Christ dwell). The pictures just seem to change but we know the stone is also the lamb slain. In the one (stone) shows seven eyes, and engraving thereof and iniquity of the land removed in one day, the other (the Lamb) that was slain (who was bruised for our iniquities) showing the seven eyes as the seven spirits of God (which are upon Christ) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Since as the Spirit descended in the form of a dove bodily upon Christ after the baptism of John " And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased just as it says, "For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell" and the Spirit was depicted as a dove in that picture. That sort of thing.

So God can give his seal of approval being pleased with him and yet still be pleased to bruise him also. If the engraving thereof pertains at all to the removal of iniquity in that land in one day Christ crucified (or the lamb that was slain's) hands and feet being pierced could possibly play into having them (in a symbolic sense) engraven on the palms of his hands seeing he died (or was crucified) for them.

In that manner, without necessarily making anything an either or but true altogether as you have shown it which is the same way I see it speaking of Christ also just speaking differently concerning much the same things too.

Anyhoo, God bless you Bro, great post

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

For some reason I cannot now grab my notes on this over at this other forum but yeah, like what if each is true just described differently is all. The one Spirit, as a dove descended upon Christ with the Father's seal of approval (accompanied by His voice) after he was baptized by John. Christ is sealed by the Spirit of God. Christ being the stone (seven eyes) or seven spirits could almost similarly be noted elsewhere as one and the selfsame Spirit (sent out into all the earth) which is elsewhere called the fulness of him (or all the fulness of God) the Father was please to have dwell in him even as the church is to be filled with the one selfsame Spirit which divides severally as He wills.

Its just the way the one selfsame Spirit is shown to divide severally as He wills in one place whereas in the picture before Joshua pertaining to Jesus (the stone upon whom is seven eyes) which is noted to be the seven spirits of God could be what is referred to as the fulness of God (which God was pleased to have the fulness in Christ dwell). The pictures just seem to change but we know the stone is also the lamb slain. In the one (stone) shows seven eyes, and engraving thereof and iniquity of the land removed in one day, the other (the Lamb) that was slain (who was bruised for our iniquities) showing the seven eyes as the seven spirits of God (which are upon Christ) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Since as the Spirit descended in the form of a dove bodily upon Christ after the baptism of John " And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased just as it says, "For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell" and the Spirit was depicted as a dove in that picture. That sort of thing.

So God can give his seal of approval being pleased with him and yet still be pleased to bruise him also. If the engraving thereof pertains at all to the removal of iniquity in that land in one day Christ crucified (or the lamb that was slain's) hands and feet being pierced could possibly play into having them (in a symbolic sense) engraven on the palms of his hands seeing he died (or was crucified) for them.

In that manner, without necessarily making anything an either or but true altogether as you have shown it which is the same way I see it speaking of Christ also just speaking differently concerning much the same things too.

Anyhoo, God bless you Bro, great post

If memory serves me, in the OT law there was stones with the names of the children of Israel written on them. 2 stones on the shoulders of the High priest, and 12 stones on the breastplate of judgement.

But off the top of my head, the only other mention that I know of a single stone being engraved is shown here…

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.”

This could be the same One stone and name engraved because I know the new name written, which is the same as His new name.

I believe you know the name, as I wrote about this before.

 

[2BeholdHisGlory]

If memory serves me, in the OT law there was stones with the names of the children of Israel written on them. 2 stones on the shoulders of the High priest, and 12 stones on the breastplate of judgement.

But off the top of my head, the only other mention that I know of a single stone being engraved is shown here…

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.”

This could be the same One stone and name engraved because I know the new name written, which is the same as His new name.

I believe you know the name, as I wrote about this before.

Yeah I was comparing around and His engraving the graving thereof seems to pertain to that stone alone, or rather Jesus Christ who is that stone because its in that context those words (the engraving thereof) apply. I thought to myself (knowing he is our sacrifice for sin) how beautiful the picture becomes if being engraved upon the palms of his hands would fit into that picture since they did pierce his hands and feet and Christ crucified is a picture of God's love for the world.

But it was just the way its worded, "I will engrave the graving thereof" ... the graving thereof?... engraving the very graving thereof?

I recall thinking about the two stones you bring up as well, and these being set in "2 ouches" and trying somehow to make that work, get it?

But that would be pierce hands as it pertained to Christ (being somehow compared with "graven upon the palms of the hands" which is 2 hands (as 2 stones) set in 2 ouches?

I cant get that to work but I thought wow, if the picture of two stones were not there but some other figure which pertained to hands/ palms and 2 ouches, how ironic would that be?

I know, thats dumb, dont go there haha, just stretching it on purpose, but typically I will kick myself for over thinking it but I will revisit these things at various times and add to my learning in between times. So I had come to the same conclusion you set forth in your first post, now I am looking at the other details every now and again to see if I can better show the thing, so far no go for me yet haha.

I get thus far and no farther...

Great food for thought Bro

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Yeah I was comparing around and His engraving the graving thereof seems to pertain to that stone alone, or rather Jesus Christ who is that stone because its in that context those words (the engraving thereof) apply. I thought to myself (knowing he is our sacrifice for sin) how beautiful the picture becomes if being engraved upon the palms of his hands would fit into that picture since they did pierce his hands and feet and Christ crucified is a picture of God's love for the world.

But it was just the way its worded, "I will engrave the graving thereof" ... the graving thereof?... engraving the very graving thereof?

I recall thinking about the two stones you bring up as well, and these being set in "2 ouches" and trying somehow to make that work, get it?

But that would be pierce hands as it pertained to Christ (being somehow compared with "graven upon the palms of the hands" which is 2 hands (as 2 stones) set in 2 ouches?

I cant get that to work but I thought wow, if the picture of two stones were not there but some other figure which pertained to hands/ palms and 2 ouches, how ironic would that be?

I know, thats dumb, dont go there haha, just stretching it on purpose, but typically I will kick myself for over thinking it but I will revisit these things at various times and add to my learning in between times. So I had come to the same conclusion you set forth in your first post, now I am looking at the other details every now and again to see if I can better show the thing, so far no go for me yet haha.

I get thus far and no farther...

Great food for thought Bro

Well you know Paul did say in

Gal 6:17 - From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks G4742 of the Lord Jesus.

That word “marks” G4742 is …

Strong’s Definitions
στίγμα stígma, stig'-mah; from a primary στίζω stízō (to "stick", i.e. prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), i.e. (figuratively) scar of service:—mark.

That is where they get that word stigmata from.

 

[2BeholdHisGlory]

Well you know Paul did say in

Gal 6:17 - From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks G4742 of the Lord Jesus.

That word “marks” G4742 is …

Strong’s Definitions
στίγμα stígma, stig'-mah; from a primary στίζω stízō (to "stick", i.e. prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), i.e. (figuratively) scar of service:—mark.

That is where they get that word stigmata from.

How might you be catching how the engraving as shown in Joshua which is speaking of Christ be shown in Paul's own marks?

I do know that is where the stigmata thing is gotta from (Paul supposedly bleeding from his hands in some mystical way according to certain sects within christianity) although I cant say I understand why Paul mentions it, or why it might be important to mention it or how its supposed to be understood by some today. I honestly can't say myself.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

How might you be catching how the engraving as shown in Joshua which is speaking of Christ be shown in Paul's own marks?

I do know that is where the stigmata thing is gotta from (Paul supposedly bleeding from his hands in some mystical way according to certain sects within christianity) although I cant say I understand why Paul mentions it, or why it might be important to mention it or how its supposed to be understood by some today. I honestly can't say myself.

I don’t think there is a connection. I was just responding to your comment about Jesus’ wounds. I believe the engraving on the One stone is the New name I mentioned above in post #5.

Also I said in reference to Paul’s comment on having the marks of the Lord. I said “That is where they get that word stigmata from.”

I didn’t say Paul had the same physical wounds as Jesus.

Peace