US Supreme Court gives restrictions on Church services.

[B-A-C]

Supreme Court rejects challenge to limits on church services; Roberts sides with liberals

A divided Supreme Court on Friday rejected an emergency appeal by a California church that challenged state limits on attendance at worship services that have been imposed to contain the spread of the coronavirus.

www.foxnews.com

This is of course against the Constitution, however in some ways it might not be bad thing. I don't agree with the 25% capacity ruling, but I do think there
are way too many 'impersonal' mega-churches that are so large nobody knows nobody. Maybe this will cut down on the mega-churches for a while at least.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

your title,
US Supreme church gives restrictions on Church services.
did you want that to be supreme church or would you like it changed to supreme court. It is rather fitting as is, however, you may prefer it changed?

I do agree somewhat with what you are saying but the draconian(?) measures enforcing against believers meeting is somewhat bent considering the other public places of trade that are allowed to remain open and 'serve' the needs of the masses.


Bless you ....><>

 

[Trevor]

Greetings,

your title,
US Supreme church gives restrictions on Church services.
did you want that to be supreme church or would you like it changed to supreme court. It is rather fitting as is, however, you may prefer it changed?

I do agree somewhat with what you are saying but the draconian(?) measures enforcing against believers meeting is somewhat bent considering the other public places of trade that are allowed to remain open and 'serve' the needs of the masses.


Bless you ....><>

The title, belies the reality. United States Supreme church, shouldn't it be the Kingdom of Heaven Supreme church, if indeed there should ever be a supreme church. The church is made of living stones who are all infilled with the Spirit of the Living God, leaving none elevated above another. It's time we came out from among them and return to the Church of the living God that started where it should be, in homes.

 

[B-A-C]

US Supreme church gives restrictions on Church services.

uggh. Yes that should be 'supreme Court'. Not supreme church.

 

[Br. Bear]

uggh. Yes that should be 'supreme Court'. Not supreme church.

Edited Sir,


Bless you ....><>

 

[Br. Bear]

The title, belies the reality. United States Supreme church, shouldn't it be the Kingdom of Heaven Supreme church, if indeed there should ever be a supreme church. The church is made of living stones who are all infilled with the Spirit of the Living God, leaving none elevated above another. It's time we came out from among them and return to the Church of the living God that started where it should be, in homes.

We also could benefit by realizing that Jesus is the Church, we are members in particular. (however, that might be best discussed in another thread?)


Bless you ....><>

 

[Trevor]

We also could benefit by realizing that Jesus is the Church, we are members in particular. (however, that might be best discussed in another thread?)


Bless you ....><>

I was under thee impression that the church is the communion of the saints, br Bear, and that Jesus is the object of our worship. Or it could also be said, that we are living stones, and when we come together we become the church and Jesus comes and dwells among us. Blessings.

 

[B-A-C]

was under thee impression that the church is the communion of the saints, br Bear, and that Jesus is the object of our worship.

True, but (part of) the government in the US is trying to prevent "the communion" of the saints. None of us is an island. We can't be part of the body if we aren't attached to the body.

1Cor 12:14; For the body is not one member, but many.
1Cor 12:15; If the foot says, "Because I am not a hand, I am not a part of the body," it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body.
1Cor 12:16; And if the ear says, "Because I am not an eye, I am not a part of the body," it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body.
1Cor 12:17; If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be?
1Cor 12:18; But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired.
1Cor 12:19; If they were all one member, where would the body be?
1Cor 12:20; But now there are many members, but one body.
1Cor 12:21; And the eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you"; or again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you."
1Cor 12:22; On the contrary, it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary;
1Cor 12:23; and those members of the body which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our less presentable members become much more presentable,

If you're a stay at home and watch televangelsists Christian, .. in my opinion you're not really part of the body. Now sometimes this can't be helped. There are elderly, informed, crippled,
vehicle-less people who don't have a way to congregate with other people. But most of us can go to church if we want to. I agree that the 'church' isn't a building. It's believers. (with an s)
The church is NOT a believer. It's believers. The body is not one person.

If you are isolated from the rest of the body, you're in trouble. You are you praying for, who is praying for you? Who are you accountable to?
Who are you lifting up, who is lifting you up? Who's burdens are you bearing? Who is bearing yours? Who are you loving, and who is loving you?

Joel Osteen has big church, I wonder if he knows everyones name? I wonder if he prays for everyone of them individually. I wonder if he knows everyones needs and problems.
I wonder if he knows who lost their job this week. Who is getting divorced this week. Who's husband died this week. Does he call them all? Does he encourage them all?

A good shepherd knows his sheep.

John 10:14; "I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me,

If we are supposed to be loving, lifting up, praying for, caring for, sharing with, bearing burdens for, encouraging... "one another". How can we do this alone?

 

[PloughBoy]

I believe the "The Bible" teaches, There is Only One True "Catholic Church" { the word Catholic means "universal"and not Roman Catholic] and the only way you can become a member is you have to be "born from above' and once you are "born from above" you are in full "communion" and "fellowship" with the whole body of Christ both those who are still living on earth and with those who have left their earthly bodies. And the only thing that can break the flow of that "fellowship or communion " is un-confessed sin, and sin thats is not Repent of. For our fellowship and communion only flows one kind of way and that is when
we remain in the vine, our fellowship and communion flows from Christ and not a church of any kind, our fellowship flows from the veins of Jesus, and not a church, We are connected at Jesus, by each one of us are connected there, that is the how we are in fellowship. And not by being located in a certain place. Our Savior and GOD is everywhere! [I did not eliminated "do not forsake to gather together" and "strain at a net and swallow a camel" either!]

If you think that fellowship flows from a church location that is a form of "Idolatry". Some of us need to revisit the Samaritan woman at the well, whom Jesus had a talk too. because if you think, you have to go Jerusalem to come together to worship and have fellowship or communion with the Saints of God. you have been bewitched and not come to the full knowledge of "The Truth"!

Our fellowship is not like the fellowship of the members of the "institutionalize church" although many of us are members of that "Institution" who have to go somewhere and be a member to worship some image, to feel halfway secure. The "US Supreme Court has every right to issue laws upon everything in its jurisdiction, and the "institutionalize church" falls into that category. The "institutional church" is a "citizenry" and falls under the umbrella" of The "United States of America" and Its laws and protection, subjected also to "SCOTUS"!

The "Congregation" that Jesus has and still building, "citizenry" is not here. our membership roll is not located here, for it is written in another book not located on these premises that is Govern by these "institutions" but A Higher Governmental order, that commands us to submit to this lower form of Government until His be establish on the earth. So I believe "The Holy Scriptures" says infallible:

(Romans 13)
1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

Now do we we push our beliefs on others, of course not. The Holy scriptures are meant for us and not them. We are commanded they are not. We are different creatures. We are pilgrims, strangers, traveling through, for our citizenship is of another land for we are a "peculiar people".

(1Peter 2)
9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 10Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

11Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; 12Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.


13Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; 14Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. 15For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: 16As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. 17Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king..