What is sin?

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What is sin?

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

What is sin?

according to whom?

• Bible
• Pharisee type religious leaders
• Christian
• Non Christian
• the Adversary and father of lies
• Pseudo-Christian

and perhaps, we could venture to include

• God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ

which might even [should] then involve the

• Christian

or perhaps @complete you would simply like some replies according to

• everyone here?

what is sin?


Bless you ....><>

 

[complete]

Greetings,

according to whom?

• Bible
• Pharisee type religious leaders
• Christian
• Non Christian
• the Adversary and father of lies
• Pseudo-Christian

and perhaps, we could venture to include

• God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ

which might even [should] then involve the

• Christian

or perhaps @complete you would simply like some replies according to

• everyone here?

what is sin?


Bless you ....><>

'All have sinned and come short
of the glory of God'
(Romans 3:23)

Hello @Br. Bear,

God's estimate of what sin is, is the measure by which we must judge all others isn't it?
What is God's estimate of what sin is?

* Adam sinned by disobeying God's known will: and 1 John 3:4, says:-
'Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:
for sin is the transgression of the law.'
(1Jn 3:4)

* The law given to the children of Israel, as part of the covenant made at Sinai, was God's known will for them.
* Gentiles were never under those laws, the only law they had was the law of conscience (Romans 2:14-16).
* Though there were laws observable in the word of God, prior to the giving of the law at Sinai, wasn't there? Such as:-

1) the law of the Sabbath (Genesis 2:3),
2) the law of the place to worship (Genesis 4:3,4 & 10),
3) the law of offerings (Genesis 4:4).

* There were also Babylonian laws being observed too: e.g., the law of adoption made Eliezer, his servant, Abraham's heir (Genesis 15).

* Man was made in the image of God and placed on the earth to have dominion. By the deception of Eve, Satan caused Adam to miss the mark, to come short of the glory of God expressed in this image. and he who had been given dominion himself came under the twofold dominion of sin and death. We see the reversal of this in 2 Corinthians 4:4, 'the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, Who is the Image of God', the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ reversed this failure on the part of Adam, by the redemption that was wrought by Him. (Romans 5:12-21). Adam came short of the glory of God, and subsequently we also come short of His glory as a consequence. So all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

* This is as far as I can go at the moment, for I must go off-line.

Thank you, Br. Bear.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[complete]

Greetings,



according to whom?

• Bible
• Pharisee type religious leaders
• Christian
• Non Christian
• the Adversary and father of lies
• Pseudo-Christian

and perhaps, we could venture to include

• God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ

which might even [should] then involve the

• Christian

or perhaps @complete you would simply like some replies according to

• everyone here?

what is sin?


Bless you ....><>

Hello @Br. Bear,

Those are interesting categories you have given. They are worth considering:-

• What the Bible says concerning sin?
• What the Pharisee type religious leaders say concerning sin?
• What the Christian says concerning sin?
• What the non-Christian says concerning sin?
• What the Adversary and father of lies says concerning sin?
• What the Pseudo-Christian says concerning sin?

I guess my entry (reply #3) comes under the first category.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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'All unrighteousness is sin: ... '
(1 John 5:17)

 

[B-A-C]

according to whom?

• Bible

I would say it only matters what God says is sin. Not what everyone else in the list says.

Rom 3:20; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

Rom 5:13; for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Rom 7:7; What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."
Rom 7:8; But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead.

1Cor 15:56; The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law;

It would seem that the law (God's Word) is what determines what sin is. Without the law there would be no sin, and no knowledge of sin.
Some "Christians" say I'm not under the law anymore. But then they say "but I still sin". But that is impossible, without the law, you can't sin.
But even without the law, death still reigned.

Rom 5:13; for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14; Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

 

[complete]

I would say it only matters what God says is sin. Not what everyone else in the list says.

Rom 3:20; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

Rom 5:13; for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Rom 7:7; What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."
Rom 7:8; But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead.

1Cor 15:56; The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law;

It would seem that the law (God's Word) is what determines what sin is. Without the law there would be no sin, and no knowledge of sin.
Some "Christians" say I'm not under the law anymore. But then they say "but I still sin". But that is impossible, without the law, you can't sin.
But even without the law, death still reigned.

Rom 5:13; for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14; Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

Hello @B-A-C,

I understand why you should say that it is only what God says in His Word concerning sin that is important. However, it will be good to consider how others view this, for it will sharpen and magnify the Truth when compared with what the Bible actually says: and maybe reveal certain misconceptions, otherwise lying dormant and unrecognised.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Br. Bear]

I would say it only matters what God says is sin. Not what everyone else in the list says.

Rom 3:20; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

Rom 5:13; for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Rom 7:7; What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."
Rom 7:8; But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead.

1Cor 15:56; The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law;

It would seem that the law (God's Word) is what determines what sin is. Without the law there would be no sin, and no knowledge of sin.
Some "Christians" say I'm not under the law anymore. But then they say "but I still sin". But that is impossible, without the law, you can't sin.
But even without the law, death still reigned.

Rom 5:13; for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14; Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

Greetings Brother,

but does the Bible actually tell anyone what is sin?


Bless you, today and always ....><>

He hath made Him to be sin for us, Who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.
2Corinthians 5:21

 

[B-A-C]

but does the Bible actually tell anyone what is sin?

Off the top if my head... Rom 7:7-8; is one example. Exodus 20 would be another good place to look, If the law tells us what sin is.
I'm sure there are many others as well. But it would be a very long and involved study, maybe I will have some time this week.

Matt 22:37; And He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.'
Matt 22:38; "This is the great and foremost commandment.
Matt 22:39; "The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'
Matt 22:40; "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

Rom 13:8 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:9 For this, "YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT COVET," and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."
Rom 13:10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Post #6 above says sin is breaking God's law. Which parts of the law? These are a few examples.