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What is wrong with abortion?

arunangelo

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What is wrong with abortion?

Those who exercise true love respect all human beings irrespective of their appearance or size. They, therefore, recognize the humanity of a one cell stage human being by recognizing that it is an independent life form with human genes; and has a human life force within it that initiates, directs and sustains a process to take that person through successive stages of development (over many years) to transform that person from a single cell individual to a fully grown human being with 10 trillion cells, multiple complex systems and a brain with a memory capacity equal to 20,000 computers. They, therefore see destruction of human beings in the embryonic and fetal stage as murder. They also see such an act as gross violation of human rights because it denies the victim from reaching his/her full human potential.
 
We live under a government that legaly sanctions muderous,terrorist acts against inocent life.How could it be possible that such a government as this be ordained of God?
 
I believe that God ordains all government. It is human freewill that takes that power and brings these laws into being. God will NOT force Himself on anyone! God is still in control. If it were not so, this world would be in even more chaos (for when humans run something it falls apart).

We need to remember that though God IS in control, He will not take our freewill away. Hard to understand and grasp...I know. I'm still trying to do that. Trusting God is what holds me together.
 
Abortion is murder in the most terrible fashion.
Abortion is birth control for those who do not wish to be responsible for their actions.
Abortion is a multi billion dollar industry.
Abortion is a source of collagen which is used in make up, shampoo, etc.
Abortion is where the ingrediants for many vaccinations come from.
Selling aborted babies for parts and/or as products is a big $ proposition.

Abortion is an abomination of the worst kind. Children slain on the alters of selfishness and greed.
 
I have a question about this topic.

In Exodus 21:22, it states, "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine."

If Christianity considers abortion to be the same as murder, why is this man only fined money, and not executed?
 
I see it this way...

Murder is a knowing and thinking in the heart about doing wrong to someone.

This man did not think about hurting this woman. Maybe he bumped into her and she fell down. I don't know. This would be called an 'accident' and not murder.
 
I have a question about this topic.

In Exodus 21:22, it states, "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine."

If Christianity considers abortion to be the same as murder, why is this man only fined money, and not executed?

Just my opinion but murder and manslaughter are two different things. If you purposefully set out to kill a human being that is murder one.
 
We live under a government that legaly sanctions muderous,terrorist acts against inocent life.How could it be possible that such a government as this be ordained of God?

Like in the time of Saul,who became King, God simply allowed the people to have what they wanted, and that wasn't his perfect will, but their own.
WE cant blame God, for the mess we're in, but our own choice.
 
hk8312.You quoted Exodus 21:22.(NIV)
If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury,the offender must be fined whatever the womans husbands and the court allows,

You missed the verse right under it.
Exodus21:23 (NIV)
But if there is serious injury,you are to take life for life,

This is cristal clear how serious God takes the injuring or taking of life in the womb.

Read Exodus 21:22-26.


My heart goes out to all the women who fall pray to the counselors at the planed parenthood clinics.

Just like true Christians put an end to slavery in our past we must put an end to this murderous practice so called pro choice,and if all this madness is people exercising their free will,then we must boldly act as a retraining force.My respect and admiration go out to many Catholics who are on the front lines of this strggle for life.
 
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If anyone who reads this has a problem with the Pro-Life stance, then go to your Bible and look up Psalm 139:13-16. This is more than enough to explain the rightful place of this issue with the Christ-follower. Go ahead, any Jewish or Christian translation will do. Here is what mine says:

'For you fashioned my inmost being,
you knit me together in my mother's womb.
I thank you because I am awesomely made,
wonderfully; your works are wonders-
I know this very well.
My bones were not hidden from you
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
Your eyes could see me as an embryo,
but in your book all my days were already written;
my days had been shaped
before any of them existed.
Psalm 139:13-16 (CJB)
 
I agree with you on abortion, to a certain extent. Life is seen by some as beginning right when the spermatazoa penetrates the egg cell, but others have differing ideas; mine being that life begins with the development of the brain. What separates man from beast? The mind. The ability to make a conscious, influenced and ethical decision in a situation is part of the very definition of being human. I'm not saying that it is okay to kill animals, oh no, merely stating the importance of the brain in life. An abortion any later than the full development of the brain is, therefore, wrong, as the child has cognitive thought and is it's own being. However this means that the 'Morning After Pill' is perfectly morally acceptable.

As with most things there are of course exceptions, rarely a rule being truly absolute and whatnot. First which is notable is if the presence of a child would completely destroy the life of the mother, in a truly shattering event. For example, a 14-16 year old girl in secondary school with events on the horizon that determine her highly promising future. To give birth, even if to put the child up for adoption afterwards, would tarnish an otherwise perfect oppurtunity at life. Even in this situation, however, an abortion any later than 12 or so weeks would be a more delicate moral decision, as the baby is indeed developed to an extent at this point. A second example of an exception is if the child would be born with diseases that would make its life completely miserable, something along the lines of having to be cared for from ash to ash kind of miserable. Though the lines may be blurred inbetween which conditions apply and which do not, the point still maintains validity. The third and final, for now, example is that of the mortal birth, where the mother would die for the child to be born, cesaerian (spelling unsure) or no. Adhering to the legal moral codes this would be grounds for a morally correct abortion, as it is the prevention of the loss of life by the loss of near-life.
 
Even before there were abortion laws the mother's life was always medically protected.
 
I can only speak for my belief

I personal search the word for my relationship with the lord and what I must answer for. now I have been out with those involved with this type of ministry and offten the young adults that assist this ministry.
now as well,that save the unborn children is a great emotional motivator for a cause and people differ in belief as to the soul of the child and I'll give no argument to it's murrder as defined in the bible but most assuredly we are born into sin and this is why i'm assured by my faith the soul of this child is'nt lost. amen This being said is why I found people operating in this ministy to be,statisticly ineffectual for the world says numbers don't lie.It's my hope that they could see this war in proper battles form towit all nesasary resorses could be diverted to the front being parshal birth abortion and the abomonation that it is for reasons that we are born in sin and upon victory on this front and proper reinforcement upon this front so it will never be lost again then begin anew upon the battle against abortion but with the real truth that her childs soul wo'nt be lost but hers might not that murrder is unpardonable but that one's ability to recover sufficently from such long term well documented deep inturnal spiritual/ psycalogical damage is lest say not imposible but close to it and all that's just so you can get to a place were you can recieve forgiveness for well it's a free gift but worthless lest you are able to recieve in those same inward parts where murrder was comited. So mutch suffering come quickly lord jesus,amen
Please forgive my miss spellings and length but nessasry to comunicate fullnes of what must needs be love god not man
 
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