When do we lose original sin?

[pixie]

I have been thinking about the question of original sin, passed on to us through Adam and Eve. My question is, when do we lose this sin? Does it happen when we are baptized with the Holy Spirit or does it happen when we die? Obviously the way the world is, original sin has been quite a terrible plague. I love God very much, yet I still don't feel free from sin.
I would like to be "refined" and free of all sin.

1 Peter 1:7 These have come so that your faith—of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.

Malachi 3:2
But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner's fire or a launderer's soap.

I'm really looking forward to His coming.

Amenixie:rainbow:

 

[Pedronewt]

I am not sure what you mean by original sin passed on to us through Adam and Eve. If the question is, “am I guilty because of Adam’s choice?” I would respond by asking how is justice served or is it just that I am condemned for another man’s choice?

• Jeremiah 31:29
"In those days they will not say again,' The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children's teeth are set on edge. But everyone will die for his own iniquity; each man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth will be set on edge.

If you are asking about what many call sin nature, where we can’t help but make sinful choices. I would respond by asking if you think sin has now become natural for man. If it is natural, why then is it wrong, and how can I be held responsible for what is only natural for me to do? I however do not think sin is our natural state or our intended way of living. This is why we find throughout scripture strong statements by Christ to “sin no more.”

Genesis 4:7
" If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it."

John 5:14
Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, "Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you."

John 8:11
She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, " I do not condemn you, either Go From now on sin no more."

Romans 6:14
For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

Romans 6:12
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts,

James 4:17
Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin.

1 John 3:6
No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.

Or maybe some think that it is passed physically through our genes. Does this mean that if we were saved, got into an accident, had to have a blood transfusion which can from an un-saved person that we would loose our salvation. I don’t think so, sounds kinda silly to me.

The victory over sin comes not in that we are no longer tempted, even Christ was tempted, but that we are freed from the demands of the law through the grace and mercy we have in Jesus Christ our Savior. Hope come from knowing what right choices are and knowing that we can make them.


Humbly submitted,
Pedro

 

[stephen]

I have been thinking about the question of original sin, passed on to us through Adam and Eve. My question is, when do we lose this sin? Does it happen when we are baptized with the Holy Spirit or does it happen when we die? Obviously the way the world is, original sin has been quite a terrible plague. I love God very much, yet I still don't feel free from sin.
I would like to be "refined" and free of all sin.

1 Peter 1:7 These have come so that your faith—of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.

Malachi 3:2
But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner's fire or a launderer's soap.

I'm really looking forward to His coming.

Amenixie:rainbow:

Good question.....Not one considered before. "We are born in sin and shapen in iniquity" says the bible. I would suggest the "original sin" you mention, and which all inherit, is lost at the point of the 'New Birth'

"Since Jesus came into my heart, Since Jesus came into my heart. Floods of joy ore' my soul like the sea billows roll, Since Jesus came into my heart". And why??

The joy of Salvation dissipates the gloom of sin, at the point of salvation......My thoughts.

 

[pixie]

Remembered a Passage

Stephen, thanks for the note. I remembered this passage. Perhaps it pertains to my question?

Romans 5:19
For as through the one man's disobedience [Rom 5:15, 18] the many [Rom 5:12; 11:32] were made sinners, even so through [Phil 2:8] the obedience of the One [Rom 5:15, 18] the many will be made righteous.

The above passage doesn't say an immediate righteous, or sinlessness
and I still ponder.

John 15:15
"No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for [John 8:26; 16:12] all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you.

We are offered freedom through Christ. Still are we carrying sin through one man's disobedience or are we freed from Jesus Christ?

I would love to be free from sin, but it hasn't yet happened. I still have sinful thoughts, though I do pretty good observing the laws of Jesus Christ. It is just my thoughts that cause me sin.

That is why I wonder about original sin. I love Jesus, I love the Holy Spirit and I love the Father, yet I still carry sin.

I would be interested again in your input.

Amenixie