When one say, they are from the “UK” you lose me

[PloughBoy]

I know the Island of Great Britain. But when a person says , I live in the “Uk” that can be anywhere in “Great Britain. England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, etc…
I am lost and ignorant where you live.
Normally , people from The United States, don’t say I from The USA, they say: I from “Texas” or I from “New York, or “Michigan” or “California” or “Utah”, or Mississippi, then you get a kind of feel and climate of the person.
But when my brothers and sisters in Christ, say I from “UK” I don’t know who you are.
If a person say I am Germany, France, Australia, Africa, Japan, China, India, or Russia I kinda get a feel of the person, cultural wise.

I’m I making sense?

 

[PloughBoy]

Like me, if you are from, Brooklyn, New York I can tell, from Boston, Massachusetts I can tell, from upper part of Connecticut I can tell, from hills of Tennessee I can tell, Kentucky I can tell, from Alabama, I can tell, Mississippi I can tell, from California I can tell, if you from Great Britain I can tell, I cannot tell from all states in The USA but some. People can tell I am not from their state when I go there, then I tell them I am from “Michigan” they cannot believe it. Because of manner and the way I speak. But I am a train speaker. I am comfortable no matter where a go. No matter what “Nationality” or cultural.
And people can tell I am from American when I come to their country, I been called a “Yank” many times!

 

[Waggles]

I am from Australia > South Australia > the Barossa Valley > Tanunda or I could just say I am from Downunder !

 

[jkid]

I think, my opinion (no expert), that people referring to themselves as from the UK are mostly going to be British. I got a feeling most of the people from the other countries, Scotland, Ireland and Wales, will not use 'UK' as it takes away from their identity.

 

[Hekuran]

It's a right mess

• Britain is England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland
• Great Britain is the island that is England, Wales, Scotland
• The British isles are Great Britain and the island of Ireland
• The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

And yes, an English person is more likely to say they are British or from the UK.

 

[PloughBoy]

I think, my opinion (no expert), that people referring to themselves as from the UK are mostly going to be British. I got a feeling most of the people from the other countries, Scotland, Ireland and Wales, will not use 'UK' as it takes away from their identity.

Yep, that is your opinion. And some do not want us to know what part of The “United Kingdom” := “Great Britain” they are from. You see I am a “Reformer”! I know “ the “Protestant” history most likely more than they do, and I live In “Metropolitan Detroit” area. So if one say, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, England, another place in the “British Isles” I am not sound but I get a idea and a picture view of 14th- 17th century view and climate of that time. I think that, that is fantastic to engage a person who lives in those “Stated” and country. I love the historical contents of those times, although meaning all over the world was “Harsh” but I do notice not to many come online here from “Spain” it seems. And Northern Africa.

 

[PloughBoy]

It's a right mess

• Britain is England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland
• Great Britain is the island that is England, Wales, Scotland
• The British isles are Great Britain and the island of Ireland
• The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

And yes, an English person is more likely to say they are British or from the UK.

I try to figure it out, but find it hard to do, Thanks
Hekuran

 

[theLeadmonger]

It depends on where you are and who asks. I've never found the English-speaking world to be slanted or unstable enough that I'd need to explain which part of the country I'm from overseas or abroad, English people lean more to the South and Irish People lean more to the North. Absolutely everyone knows that. I can't change which city I was born in obviously, and I don't spend a huge amount of time in Britian, but that's how I tell the British apart. It's not where in the Empire they came from, if they're friends with the North, they're Secessionists, and if they're friends with the South, they're Ulster Unionists.

The differences between the United States and England are found in the politics, the politics, and the politics. Always gravitate to England if the only two choices are England and Ireland, England as a demographic group is less criminal.

 

[lentz]

It depends on where you are and who asks. I've never found the English-speaking world to be slanted or unstable enough that I'd need to explain which part of the country I'm from overseas or abroad, English people lean more to the South and Irish People lean more to the North. Absolutely everyone knows that. I can't change which city I was born in obviously, and I don't spend a huge amount of time in Britian, but that's how I tell the British apart. It's not where in the Empire they came from, if they're friends with the North, they're Secessionists, and if they're friends with the South, they're Ulster Unionists.

The differences between the United States and England are found in the politics, the politics, and the politics. Always gravitate to England if the only two choices are England and Ireland, England as a demographic group is less criminal.

I find some of the dumbest people are here in the U S.
You hear them say,”You’re not an American if you don’t think this way “!
Like no one ever told them America is a continent,not a country.

 

[theLeadmonger]

I find some of the dumbest people are here in the U S.
You hear them say,”You’re not an American if you don’t think this way “!
Like no one ever told them America is a continent,not a country.

No one cares whether you're American or not except racial theorists. There's also citizenship, but that requires lawyering skills.

 

[lentz]

No one cares whether you're American or not except racial theorists. There's also citizenship, but that requires lawyering skills.

Then there are those,who when someone says “African American “,they automatically assume black.
A white person from South Africa would be African American.
People are strange. People are….strange

 

[theLeadmonger]

Then there are those,who when someone says “African American “,they automatically assume black.
A white person from South Africa would be African American.
People are strange. People are….strange

A white person from South Africa would be African American? Under what circumstances? Census race in a year ending with 00 is predicated on your family tree, genealogy lineage, ultimate national origin. More than one European nation had colonies in Africa, a European refugee who became a United States citizen would answer the race question on the census based on his line of descent from the European country that he had been a plantation from in Africa. Rhodesians are English. There were also French and German provinces in Africa.

 

[lentz]

A white person from South Africa would be African American? Under what circumstances? Census race in a year ending with 00 is predicated on your family tree, genealogy lineage, ultimate national origin. More than one European nation had colonies in Africa, a European refugee who became a United States citizen would answer the race question on the census based on his line of descent from the European country that he had been a plantation from in Africa. Rhodesians are English. There were also French and German provinces in Africa.

Yes
However as I have said in other threads,color is not a race. Only two races of people that exist is Jew and Gentile

 

[Curtis]

Php 3:20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,

Now do you like me?

 

[theLeadmonger]

Yes
However as I have said in other threads,color is not a race. Only two races of people that exist is Jew and Gentile

There's also a Department of the Census definition. Your census race is identical to the nationality that your family descends from. It also has to match your color, that's one of the ways they catch you lying.

 

[lentz]

There's also a Department of the Census definition. Your census race is identical to the nationality that your family descends from. It also has to match your color, that's one of the ways they catch you lying.

I don’t remember the name of people or tribe,whatever, but there are a people in India who are as black or blacker than Africans. And I don’t believe have any lineage with African people.

 

[theLeadmonger]

I don’t remember the name of people or tribe,whatever, but there are a people in India who are as black or blacker than Africans. And I don’t believe have any lineage with African people.

Blacks aren't the only people with tribes. Jews come from tribes which keep genealogical records of the family's names and bloodlines. English speaking people show their family's tribal status by tartan, which symbolized an alliance of more than one family. The family should have a family tree in the same manner as a Hebrew family. Germans practice heraldry and the crest belongs to a clan, in modern times a crest is most often seen on a school's item. African's can prove that they have either family ties (they don't write down records of birth, death, baptism or marriage), and they can't prove that they have clan status within their family. Clan status means that your family is legally part of the local civic government (someone in it can legally vote; as a unit it can own property).

An all-black group of families with clan ties to each other, again all black, since the clans are also related by proximate language group extending back to the Tower of Bable on the grounds of race, would only be valid under an all-black constitutional state, for example Zimbabwe or the Congo.

 

[theLeadmonger]

I know the Island of Great Britain. But when a person says , I live in the “Uk” that can be anywhere in “Great Britain. England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, etc…
I am lost and ignorant where you live.
Normally , people from The United States, don’t say I from The USA, they say: I from “Texas” or I from “New York, or “Michigan” or “California” or “Utah”, or Mississippi, then you get a kind of feel and climate of the person.
But when my brothers and sisters in Christ, say I from “UK” I don’t know who you are.
If a person say I am Germany, France, Australia, Africa, Japan, China, India, or Russia I kinda get a feel of the person, cultural wise.

I’m I making sense?

The United Kingdom is political. If you're really a Walter Bagehot constitutionalist, I mean if those are your politics, then that's your country and you're in it. The loyalist version is that you have to also be actually a monarchist to get started, but there's also the jingoist version, which is that if you're "an English-Speaking Person", then you belong in the political United Kingdom whether you're a republican already or not.

Political in this context means something other than partisan, the U.S. Constitution doesn't tell you which political dues organizations you can and can't belong to and neither does Bagehot's, it just tells you what form the government takes. In other words, the United Kingdom is "political" as in "Aristotle codified the book Politics in the Greek language."

 

[theLeadmonger]

Like me, if you are from, Brooklyn, New York I can tell, from Boston, Massachusetts I can tell, from upper part of Connecticut I can tell, from hills of Tennessee I can tell, Kentucky I can tell, from Alabama, I can tell, Mississippi I can tell, from California I can tell, if you from Great Britain I can tell, I cannot tell from all states in The USA but some. People can tell I am not from their state when I go there, then I tell them I am from “Michigan” they cannot believe it. Because of manner and the way I speak. But I am a train speaker. I am comfortable no matter where a go. No matter what “Nationality” or cultural.
And people can tell I am from American when I come to their country, I been called a “Yank” many times!

You're a Yankee from Michigan? I don't have a favorite baseball team, there are just too many really good players in the National Sport, I don't honestly have to right to say that my football colors represent "my Favorite team of players who are American people" straight down the line in the exact sense of professional sports, either. I have football souvenirs, but they're just in the office because the loading dock is Union, and the game is close enough to local. If you're looking into a straight shot on a sporting ball for North-South and don't have an overlong three martini lunch break for roundabout parliamentary BS, why don't you start cheering for Ice Hockey? The Chicago Blackhawks are an awesome side, the New York Rangers don't play football for Ireland or at all, and the Seattle Kraken are fun to watch. There are also Southern teams, for example the Texas Stars.

 

[theLeadmonger]

Legally, the English language qua England means:

"British" is by place of birth in geographical Britian.

United Kingdom is a political status. In the days of Bede, during the sixth century, a tribal confederation with mobile alliances existed on the islands.

A nationalist is an English speaker with a penchant for genealogy who politically embraces the United Kingdom. Nationalist tracking runs a gamut from fluid to chaotic in North America especially historically and on the western island.