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Beetow

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FAQ: I'm thinking of reading the Bible; where should I start?

REPLY: The Bible can be a tedious chore for people new to it; so I highly recommend
that someone who's only looking to indulge their curiosity skip the heavy books for now
and try the short stories of Ruth, Esther, and Jonah; and then for sure the
philosophical book of Ecclesiastes. You gotta love Solomon's pessimistic world view: it's
spot on.

* When my teen-age son first started reading the Bible, he became discouraged. When I
asked him what the matter was, he said he couldn't figure out the hidden messages. So
I told him: Son, forget about hidden messages. Just read the Bible like a novel or an
encyclopedia and you'll get more out of it that way; and he did.

FAQ: Which version would be best for me?


REPLY: I recommend avoiding linguistic antiques like the Douay-Rheims, the
Confraternity, the American Standard Version, and the King James version which
are no longer practical because their language and grammar are obsolete.

For English-speaking inquirers I suggest contemporary versions in common use like the
New International (NIV), New American Bible (NAB), the New American Standard (NAS)
the English Standard Version (ESV) and/or the New Living Translation (NLT)

FAQ: Where can I find a Bible?


REPLY: Just about any book store carries a selection of Bibles, and even some
department stores; and of course Christian book stores. Amazon dot com has them too.
If you're on a limited budget, you might try shopping a thrift store like Good Will and/or
Salvation Army.

* No matter whose version of the Bible you choose, some all-knowing armchair expert
will eventually come along and insist it's no either no good, corrupt, and/or inadequate
so be ready for that. Actually it's probably best you don't tell a Christian what you're
doing lest they muddy the waters with unsolicited spiritual counseling that's appropriate
for a proselyte but quite out in left field for someone who's only mildly curious.

Buen Camino
Pleasant Journey

_
 
* When my teen-age son first started reading the Bible, he became discouraged. When I
asked him what the matter was, he said he couldn't figure out the hidden messages. So
I told him: Son, forget about hidden messages. Just read the Bible like a novel or an
encyclopedia and you'll get more out of it that way; and he did.
I would ask. Did reading it like a novel solve the mysteries of faith the signified understanding of parables ?

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

What is the purpose of parables if not to hide ?
 
What is the purpose of parables if not to hide ?

To hide it from unbelievers, not believers.

Matt 13:13; "Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
John 14:26; "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

1Cor 2:7 but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;
1Cor 2:8 the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;

John 15:15; "No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you.

John 16:25; "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; an hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but will tell you plainly of the Father.
John 16:29; His disciples *said, "Lo, now You are speaking plainly and are not using a figure of speech.

1Cor 1:21; For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
 
To hide it from unbelievers, not believers.

Matt 13:13; "Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
John 14:26; "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

1Cor 2:7 but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;
1Cor 2:8 the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;

John 15:15; "No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you.

John 16:25; "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; an hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but will tell you plainly of the Father.
John 16:29; His disciples *said, "Lo, now You are speaking plainly and are not using a figure of speech.

1Cor 1:21; For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

It would seem to be a book of mysteries made known.

I would agree. Without parables Christ the Holy Spirit of God spoke not.. . right from the very beginning. The eternal word "let there be" and the mystery became sight (light) "God who is Light is good." day one.

Parables the signified or poetic tongue of God . . reveal the mysteries to the believers.

They do not change the literal historical understanding or the simplicity of the gospel . With a little searching as for silver or gold they enrich the gospel

The hidden manna (what is it?) spoken of it (God's word) that taste like honey. He gives us little as the better things which accompanies salvation (Hebrews 6) He will not forget the good works we can offer him according to his power of faith that works in us, .The work of two . . that seen in submission to the unseen it is greater than the work of none.

Why and how are they hid in parables from one and revealed to another.?

How do we rightly divide or interpret them ?

Does mixing them (rightly divide) as spoken of in Hebrew 4:1-2 bringing us rest yoked with Christ?

Mysteries of rest ?

The work was finished during the 6 days he did work as the lamb slain. It was demonstrated to the whole world 2 thousand years ago

Hebrews 4 King James Version4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

Is rightly dividing the same as mixing . . . . comparing the things seen the temporal . . .to the things not seen the eternal ?
 
FAQ: I'm thinking of reading the Bible; where should I start?

REPLY: The Bible can be a tedious chore for people new to it; so I highly recommend
that someone who's only looking to indulge their curiosity skip the heavy books for now
and try the short stories of Ruth, Esther, and Jonah; and then for sure the
philosophical book of Ecclesiastes. You gotta love Solomon's pessimistic world view: it's
spot on.

* When my teen-age son first started reading the Bible, he became discouraged. When I
asked him what the matter was, he said he couldn't figure out the hidden messages. So
I told him: Son, forget about hidden messages. Just read the Bible like a novel or an
encyclopedia and you'll get more out of it that way; and he did.

FAQ: Which version would be best for me?


REPLY: I recommend avoiding linguistic antiques like the Douay-Rheims, the
Confraternity, the American Standard Version, and the King James version which
are no longer practical because their language and grammar are obsolete.

For English-speaking inquirers I suggest contemporary versions in common use like the
New International (NIV), New American Bible (NAB), the New American Standard (NAS)
the English Standard Version (ESV) and/or the New Living Translation (NLT)

FAQ: Where can I find a Bible?


REPLY: Just about any book store carries a selection of Bibles, and even some
department stores; and of course Christian book stores. Amazon dot com has them too.
If you're on a limited budget, you might try shopping a thrift store like Good Will and/or
Salvation Army.

* No matter whose version of the Bible you choose, some all-knowing armchair expert
will eventually come along and insist it's no either no good, corrupt, and/or inadequate
so be ready for that. Actually it's probably best you don't tell a Christian what you're
doing lest they muddy the waters with unsolicited spiritual counseling that's appropriate
for a proselyte but quite out in left field for someone who's only mildly curious.

Buen Camino
Pleasant Journey

_
Sir, in english, the Authorized (King James) Version of the Holy Bible is the Word of God.

If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Amen.
 
No matter whose version of the Bible you choose, some all-knowing armchair
expert will eventually come along and insist it's no either no good, corrupt, and/or
inadequate so be ready for that.
_
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
 
FAQ: I'm thinking of reading the Bible; where should I start?

REPLY: The Bible can be a tedious chore for people new to it; so I highly recommend
that someone who's only looking to indulge their curiosity skip the heavy books for now
and try the short stories of Ruth, Esther, and Jonah; and then for sure the
philosophical book of Ecclesiastes. You gotta love Solomon's pessimistic world view: it's
spot on.

* When my teen-age son first started reading the Bible, he became discouraged. When I
asked him what the matter was, he said he couldn't figure out the hidden messages. So
I told him: Son, forget about hidden messages. Just read the Bible like a novel or an
encyclopedia and you'll get more out of it that way; and he did.

FAQ: Which version would be best for me?


REPLY: I recommend avoiding linguistic antiques like the Douay-Rheims, the
Confraternity, the American Standard Version, and the King James version which
are no longer practical because their language and grammar are obsolete.

For English-speaking inquirers I suggest contemporary versions in common use like the
New International (NIV), New American Bible (NAB), the New American Standard (NAS)
the English Standard Version (ESV) and/or the New Living Translation (NLT)

FAQ: Where can I find a Bible?


REPLY: Just about any book store carries a selection of Bibles, and even some
department stores; and of course Christian book stores. Amazon dot com has them too.
If you're on a limited budget, you might try shopping a thrift store like Good Will and/or
Salvation Army.

* No matter whose version of the Bible you choose, some all-knowing armchair expert
will eventually come along and insist it's no either no good, corrupt, and/or inadequate
so be ready for that. Actually it's probably best you don't tell a Christian what you're
doing lest they muddy the waters with unsolicited spiritual counseling that's appropriate
for a proselyte but quite out in left field for someone who's only mildly curious.

Buen Camino
Pleasant Journey

_
I say start at the beginning...

Neva heard of anyone starting in the middle or ending or third chapter when they go to read any book..

Idk that is me..


Perhaps cause I was started in jubilees lol


Twistie :broken_heart:
 
No matter whose version of the Bible you choose, some all-knowing armchair
expert will eventually come along and insist it's no either no good, corrupt, and/or
inadequate so be ready for that.
_
I love reading and listening to all versions.. I don't understand why one would put a litigation on how to indulge in the Word of YH

Twistie :broken_heart:
 
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