Which one are you lacking in?

[Jesus_is_LORD]

At first I was going to ask, which one do you feel is lacking in the church. But then I decided if I just
ask everyone to speak for themselves instead of thinking of others, perhaps we will get a better sample.

Which one are you lacking in?
Some people pray but don't read their Bible or don't show Christian love through their actions.
Others serve others but hardly read the Bible and pray and vice versa.

What is your answer?

 

[MedicBravo]

@Jesus_is_LORD
I would say the opportunity of finding a true, good God church. The last one I went to for 6 years eventually failed. I won't get into that but the fact the few are rare and hard to find and most are flawed and corrupt.

 

[PloughBoy]

At first I was going to ask, which one do you feel is lacking in the church. But then I decided if I just
ask everyone to speak for themselves instead of thinking of others, perhaps we will get a better sample.

Which one are you lacking in?
Some people pray but don't read their Bible or don't show Christian love through their actions.
Others serve others but hardly read the Bible and pray and vice versa.

What is your answer?

Ok, define what you mean by the term "christian love" and where the definition is found. And if it is the same kind as The Love the world has for it's own?

The world take care of its own, they feed their own, they take care of their own. They clothe their own. they support their own, they support their drunks, their Drug addicts, their thieves, their women of the night, they support those who commit crimes both woman and men. They show their love in many ways to those of their own, Even much kindness to many children of The Living God more than those who call themselves christians, It is fact even King David had to run from his own and be protected by "the Philistines" from Israel.

So i think "Christian Love" has to be define. "don't you'?
Lord, when did WE, not FEED you when did WE NOT, clothe you, When DID We Not, give you water, When did We, Not come to prison to see about you! [some body did] the Philistines did, the drug dealer did, the woman of the streets, she did, and even wipe my feet with her hair and the tears falling from her cheeks. What is Christian love. is it,



King James Bible
Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
You will not talk about another spouse you will not commit adultery, you will not bear false witness, you will not slander another brother you will not gossip.

would it be:
Love Your Enemies

(Leviticus 24:17-23; Luke 6:27-36)

38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So if our Spouses would be guilty of such crimes , now what would you advise. In the ways of "christian Love" a counselor or the BOOK. "And GOD HATES Divorce! Period! No EXCUSE! except during "courting period" to see if she is faithful. If unfaithful The courtship can be legally broken off. In Which is consider a legal "Divorce" and the marriage ritual can be lawfully broken with no Penalties.


"christian Love" := Doing what is right in the eyes of GOD according to the TRUTH as define in His WORD.

Feel free to take this statement apart. "Iron Sharpens Iron" for our goal and your thread is "

"Which one are you lacking in?"​

After we define each action as good as we can. Oh how far i think we can go with this. You are "The Captain" here! I am just a "Motivator" and "Squeezing The Grape"

define may help:

• Prayer
• Bible Reading
• Christian Action (Loving & Serving)

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

@Jesus_is_LORD
I would say the opportunity of finding a true, good God church. The last one I went to for 6 years eventually failed. I won't get into that but the fact the few are rare and hard to find and most are flawed and corrupt.

So the church, maybe the fellowship and Bible study?
A place where the WORD came full of Grace and Truth?

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Ok, define what you mean by the term "christian love" and where the definition is found. And if it is the same kind as The Love the world has for it's own?

Good question, put simply, I would think of Jesus' example of the good Samaritan.

I would define Christian love as the actions done in the spirit of service which flow out from a relationship with Jesus Christ.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

I would define Prayer as regular and purposeful time spent communicating with God which may include intercession, praise, confession, and worship.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

I would define Bible Reading as the academic study of the Bible for the purpose of learning and retaining the WORD of God in our minds, allowing the Holy Spirit
to later bring it to our remembrance; remember it can only be brought forth if we have first stored it in our minds. Study or Bible reading helps us to store it in our minds.

 

[PloughBoy]

Good question, put simply, I would think of Jesus' example of the good Samaritan.

I would define Christian love as the actions done in the spirit of service which flow out from a relationship with Jesus Christ.

The Bible does not speak of a "Good Samaritan" Jesus never spoke about a "GOOD SAMARITAN", Jesus said:


New American Standard Bible Romans 3:10
as it is written: “THERE IS NO RIGHTEOUS PERSON, NOT EVEN ONE;


New King James Version Luke 18:19
So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.

New American Standard Bible Mark 10:18
But Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.

New American Standard Bible Matthew 19:17
And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

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Tradition and Worship Matthew 15: 8-9 BSB These churches:

…"‘These [ churches] people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. "They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’”

Isaiah 29:13
Therefore the Lord said: "These people draw near to Me with their mouths and honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. Their worship of Me is but rules taught by men.

Mark 7:7
They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.'
Colossians 2:22
These will all perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.
Matthew 7:14
But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.


And many people are on that road and travel on it.

Isaiah 35:8
And there will be a highway called the Way of Holiness. The unclean will not travel it--only those who walk in the Way--and fools will not stray onto it.

"Come out from among them" Have no fellowship with them come out that you may become clean! And then you will see! "TRUST GOD" and HIM ONLY! It is a "STRONGHOLD" that has Trap MANY! It has been Invaded "BIG TIME"! Not all, but many.

Satan does good works too! You catch files with honey. And The COSMETIC industries is a "BILLION" dollar industry. "ANGELS OF LIGHT" And SATAN loves his own. and he blesses them. And he loves giving out Bribes.

 

[MedicBravo]

So the church, maybe the fellowship and Bible study?
A place where the WORD came full of Grace and Truth?

A church. A better one unlike most in this world.
Too many people believe God is Good and all that "bad and mean" things are part of the OT. "He would never do something like that."

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

A church. A better one unlike most in this world.
Too many people believe God is Good and all that "bad and mean" things are part of the OT. "He would never do something like that."

Gotcha.

For me I was never able to find a church which compared to my childhood church, which was a very good experience.
My father was the pastor there, so needless to say, I felt very comfortable.

I personally had to get to the point where I focused on finding a place where I could serve that had sound theology even
if some of the other aspects were lacking. I learned in my adult age that many believers are kept out of the church, organized,
because they haven't found one good enough, and as they keep searching they never will.

So for me, as I continue to speak, the UMC is at the brink of splitting up over this LGBTQ+ thing, and I"ll continue to serve
where God has put me until a split happens, if it does. I don't think my local church will accept that agenda, but if it does,
I would no longer feel comfortable serving there. However I'm reminded that even Daniel served under King Nebuchadnezzar
and was put there for a purpose and as a witness. So ultimately it is not about where we feel comfortable but where God has put
us. I'm sure Daniel didn't feel comfortable in the King's courts, but God had a plan. Not speaking to you directly but on the subject,
I think if we focus less on what makes us feel comfortable and more of where God has sent, appointed, and places us, we will
more likely be walking in God's WILL for our life.

Praying you find the place where God wants you to be a blessing to others and vice-versa

 

[PloughBoy]

So the church, maybe the fellowship and Bible study?
A place where the WORD came full of Grace and Truth?

No it is known, for a Stronghold of deceptions, and false "Koinonia" but only is a place of fellowship of all kinds of ungodly creatures gathering together including GOD's children. That is why it is stated, come out from among THEM! "THEM THEM THEM" Staring "JAMES WHITMORE" (1954) and trust nobody until proven. "Sleeping with the ENEMY" and Holding hands with "THEM"! And eating "POP CORN" and being entertain in "THE PARTHENON'!
and being caught up in a Loop! and going around in a "Circe" {you get it "Circe" "church"} A "cult" is something else, one must be drag out! And be de-program. And all the while they are Hollering Kicking at the sky, So the LORD have to "DRAG many OUT".

I bet you do not believe that is in The BIBLE. That "GOD" The FATHER drags us. out. Why? Because he loves us before we where created , before we knew ourselves, before there, a when, or a where, before time ever existed, Before there was a "FUTURE" so GOD did not lOOK into a "FUTURE: how could he, since there was no Future to look into. Nothing was there. HE DECREE what THE FUTURE would be. He Spoke it, to be just like he planned it to be. And no Mortal's mind can determine any of that. that Mind belongs to GOD.

I am here thinking about the times in earlier years, Little kids would be having a fit in stores around the country, Yelling and kicking because they want ed something in the stores, from toys to candy, They kicking and screaming, and call their parents bad names, and That Mother or Dad, would grab, that little demon, and tear his behind up, upside down right side up! He would be like a rag doll! Those kids would spit on you, pp in the floor pull there pants down right in the middle of the store, trying to get their way! My youngest one pulled that on me, I ask my wife, how long he has been doing this, She said i told you he would act up, So i do not like taking him to the stores. I said; How come you haven't stop it. "He would bang his head on the Hard floor unti lhis nose start bleeding! to get what he wanted. She said i did try, I would tell him to be nice, and do not act like that in public, you are suppose to act like a good little christian boy. I said ok, I got this.

I waited patiently, he tried this on me now , once, in others, that was a test, he testing me, meaning he can do it to me, like he does my wife. He did in the store, i got him what he wanted, he yelled and cried, people looking at me like i am the devil and mistreating my son, that is why he is hollering. i did not stop taking him to the stores, I talked to him, the more I talked the louder he gets. I would buy him what he wants, no anger. He laugh and play. He has it going on! He is The prince of the House. Now you know, I am waiting, for him to throw a fit with me in The walls of My CASTLE!

He got brave and threw a "APE" fit! On that floor and I WENT "RAZOR BACK" on that little "DEVIL"! His EYE BUCK WIDE! I GRAB that "APE Fit" and LOOK in HIS EYES! HE SAW FIRE , that HE HAS NEVER SEEM! And i told Him he better not Throw another FIT about what he wants, Because I will "TERRORISE" YOUR LITTLE AS! AND I TOLD HIM, when THAT "VOICE COME IN YOUR MIND", to throw a fit, You tell that Voice when it comes to you to Throw a FIT!,,,,,,,,,,,,he better get "BACK"!
GET back, because my daddy will kill me! Now you think what I said, And I am going to pause here, until I think you got the message! And I just stood there and look at him and he look at me. He look at me, like who is this! I ain;t never seen nothing like this before! And I didn't touch him, but he never threw another fit, yelling and kicking and hitting his head on the floor anymore. which would have done great damage to his brain.

But my wife friends sons, curse them out, beat them up, yell at them, and do what they want. I have seen them in action in the stores. when they were kids, teens, and grown! And when they were teens they want me to talk to them, "I am not talking to them!" But i was the devil when mines where coming up. My son and daughter had access to a 60,000 car, a 70,000 pickup, a V8 Ford SHO. A minivan. and fully covered insurance and had keys to anyone they wanted to drive. But follow rules, and the very day they got license they , could drive to school to the malls, anywhere you want to go just let us know where you are going, and No riders for the 1st. year of receiving your drivers licenses. Not even taking my mother anywhere, not until you are a experience driver.

I meant it! And i cannot remember how many teens died, in our township, killed by grand parents, car accidents, and other incidents. The school student parking lots, with , $ 5,000 , $10,000, $20,000, $30,000, $50,000, $60,000, $70.000. $80,000 to over $100,000, Cars in the student Parking lot over 200 cars. Student cars and Students driver their parents cars. A Lot of these parents in my township, both husband and wife makes over "$!,000,000 a year! they got Garages bigger than motels! "Bob Seger" his son and mines played in the BAND together. " we went out just for dinner casual, one of the newscaster for Detroit, Was having a drink at the bar. and i pointed her out to my wife, It was my sons, 18th birthday. And i ask him did he wanted to have a picture taken with her. He said yes. my wife got a attitude with me and didn't want us to bother her, and I said; she is going to take a picture with my son, I remember when she was begging for a job, and shoes running over on the side, and she came to our counsel, over 300 pastors and many more black women trying to get a job, in the media, the Courts as judges, and we demanded that they hired these women,
And now they are "Millionaires" and i know women who has slept with the mayors, I went up to her, and just told her about my son and he wanted a picture taken together. She was nice and smile and Appreciated it. I know where a lot of people have come from and what is in the closet! And not here say!

Now here is the kicker, the young man was her son. Now Growing up, the only son, a "Millionaires"kid. She introduce me to him her son. Ok, but then i heard him talking to his mother, and i did not like it. And she was quiet and took it, the way he spoke to her. Like he was, mister big dung. Now he was dating and later, Married one The "FORD MOTOR Company " Heirs daughter. I been around a long time, and somehow my surrounding has to have been "Orchestrated." by GOD.

I watch the fall of "The Vernor's Ginger Ale" Heirs,I was and saw the fall of "The STROH"S Brewery"Heirs", And i got a chance to see "GREAT BIBLICAL ORATORS" proclaim the GOSPEl According to JESUS CHRIST" and these people and many across the County have never seen or heard a "great ORATOR" proclaim the GOSPEL powerded By GOD! these men today, that lines these pulpits and I do not know what they are. and people like them. they are nothing but wells without WATER! And these people love them, from "Charles Stanley, to David Jeremiah, to TD JAKES, AND how Dare they PRESENT A WOMAN, as if she can be a "ORATOR" proclaiming The GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS CHRIST" with a" STENTORIAN TONE" ORATOR. And CAN Stand in The PRESENCE OF DEMONS!

A singer yes, she can and fully be ANOINTED by GOD. And when she is known, these demon motivate men pastors convince these women into "Pastoral Ministries" in which GOD did not CALL them. But he anointed them to sing and lead in song. And POWERFUL THERE THEY CAN BE!..... Send demons to Flight! And now they are polluting or going in a way not ordered by "GOD", NOR HAVE THE POWER TO DO SO! When you stand in The PULPIT YOU SEND DEMONS AND DEVILS TO FLIGHT!! BY THE POWER OF GOD! AND IT TAKES A MAN, A ALPHA AND NOT A BETA" ! When, WOMEN Should have their full attention should be right where God Has Called them and Not be persuade by the counsel of men. But stay in the place where you have been called. For men in the church will take you off course and replace your devotion from GOD wholly. And this too, have been "Proclaimed" by "Prophecy" too! For nothing can be hidden and that which is hidden will come to light. And his days of Deception will all come too Light, and will come to an end.

These men have destroy so many christians ministries of men and women and children. And pack then in into their own 4 walled kingdom. And set them down and have they pay to be entertain, and called it and taught them that this is "Worshipping The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY" and fully neglected:

The WORD:
[ When you go up to Jerusalem, no telling what you are worship up there}
"Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what:"


3"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 25The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.'

Just watch: the church, the church, the church, the church , the church, A "CIRCE" and around they go!

"woman believe me" and he knows they do not believe. they are "part time" lovers when its suits them.

"she told me what are you bringing to the table" I wanted to say something, But I know better you cannot win with a woman! She is going to get you.