Who is a child of God

[FernandoM]

There are people here in this fellowship who are very opinionated, and easily say another poster is not saved.
They shouldn't do that because they will be judged if they are wrong.
Keep a still tongue.
Let that be between God and them. Walk with God and be a witness of the gospel in words and in conduct.

 

[romanianbeliever]

Apostle Peter says in his epistle that the new birth occurs from an incorruptible seed, which is the Word of God. (...born again not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God. 1 Peter 1:22)

Lord Jesus strengthens this view when He says that the seed from the parable of the sower is the Word of God. (The seed is the Word of God. Luke 8:11)

What we can note is that for the one that is born again, God's seed/Word abides in him. (Whosoever is born of God...his seed remains in him. 1 John 3:9)

Hence it is possible to distinguish if someone is born again by verifying if they have received the full, unaltered seed of God.

If we receive a modified seed, we will not be born of God but of the one who modified the seed we received.

Take for example the teaching of Lord Jesus on non-resistance and loving your enemies.

Lord Jesus teaches: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Matthew 5:39

So for example if someone is enrolled in the army or works in law enforcement, and declares himself "born again", we can note that the seed he has been "born again" of does not have the teaching of Lord Jesus regarding non-resistance and loving your enemies. So his birth is a counterfeit birth.

 

[complete]

Apostle Peter says in his epistle that the new birth occurs from an incorruptible seed, which is the Word of God. (...born again not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God. 1 Peter 1:22)

Lord Jesus strengthens this view when He says that the seed from the parable of the sower is the Word of God. (The seed is the Word of God. Luke 8:11)

What we can note is that for the one that is born again, God's seed/Word abides in him. (Whosoever is born of God...his seed remains in him. 1 John 3:9)

Hence it is possible to distinguish if someone is born again by verifying if they have received the full, unaltered seed of God.

If we receive a modified seed, we will not be born of God but of the one who modified the seed we received.

Take for example the teaching of Lord Jesus on non-resistance and loving your enemies.

Lord Jesus teaches: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Matthew 5:39

So for example if someone is enrolled in the army or works in law enforcement, and declares himself "born again", we can note that the seed he has been "born again" of does not have the teaching of Lord Jesus regarding non-resistance and loving your enemies. So his birth is a counterfeit birth.

Oh dear! oh dear! What are you saying?

Take a look at the OP again.@romanianbeliever.

Only God can make righteous judgments. Leave all judgment to Him.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris

 

[romanianbeliever]

Chris, you are teaching against God's word, God does not allow women to teach. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. 1 Timothy 2:12
Be blessed.

 

[FernandoM]

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3v28

Then everyone has their own function.
A woman with wisdom is a gift from God. Remember Deborah, Esther, Phoebe and plenty more.

Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.

She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her. Proverbs 3

 

[romanianbeliever]

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3v28

Then everyone has their own function.
A woman with wisdom is a gift from God. Remember Deborah, Esther, Phoebe and plenty more.

Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.

She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her. Proverbs 3

It is good, but what do we do with the Word that does not permit women to teach without corrupting it, as many do? 2 Corinthians 2:17

Whosoever is born again doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:9

 

[FernandoM]

No disrespect but you are a very young man aged 26.
Older women teach youngsters and children.
You have taken Paul out of context,that was for the Corinthians. Paul also commended women and look this up where women have taught men.
This is a discussion forum anyway and for men and women.

 

[Twistie]

Chris, you are teaching against God's word, God does not allow women to teach. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. 1 Timothy 2:12
Be blessed.

Yet we r to b treated as a sister which many do not nor do the younger respect the older so much name calling these day
We got these older ladies seducing the younger ones n bedding them instead of showing them the ways
These men that allow themselves to lead by women are usually in an emotional state they have lost logic sadly because many r raised by a single mother with no man to show how a man is
But everything is written n we r told what would b happening

Watered down words

Fear of loosing friends n family over speaking the Truth

Damning those we know not

Sodom n Gomorrah the tower of babble

The dragon given power to the Beast

Man given the beast power to blaspheme The Word

It's all here n it's all happening know

YH has given man ova to his hearts desires


All need to exam their Hearts n see where they r truly at

Apologies for getting off topic but Truth is Truth

Twistie

 

[MedicBravo]

There are people here in this fellowship who are very opinionated, and easily say another poster is not saved.
They shouldn't do that because they will be judged if they are wrong.
Keep a still tongue.
Let that be between God and them. Walk with God and be a witness of the gospel in words and in conduct.

God and the Bible easily tell us who is and isn't.
It is by that we judge others not hypocritical or personal judgment.
If you are obsessed with a movie series say Harry Potter or The Matrix or whatever and have lots of "stuff" pertaining to it and in effect is your idol and you tell someone else who does the same or less in that are "wrong" that is hypocritical judgment.
I straight so I and all who are have every right to judge the LGB and T+ and tell them "x, y, and z sin is wrong".

 

[Twistie]

God and the Bible easily tell us who is and isn't.
It is by that we judge others not hypocritical or personal judgment.
If you are obsessed with a movie series say Harry Potter or The Matrix or whatever and have lots of "stuff" pertaining to it and in effect is your idol and you tell someone else who does the same or less in that are "wrong" that is hypocritical judgment.
I straight so I and all who are have every right to judge the LGB and T+ and tell them "x, y, and z sin is wrong".

It's how one says it n when n where it is coming from
There's a time to tare down n a time to build
Judgement will start in Those who claim the follow But do not

It's all written
Twistie

 

[PloughBoy]

Oh dear! oh dear! What are you saying?

Take a look at the OP again.@romanianbeliever.

Only God can make righteous judgments. Leave all judgment to Him.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris

That's right, you tell him!

 

[PloughBoy]

It is good, but what do we do with the Word that does not permit women to teach without corrupting it, as many do? 2 Corinthians 2:17

Whosoever is born again doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:9

Who said, she is teaching,,,, YOU? She is, Bearing "WITNESS" to "The TRUTH" Kemosabe!

 

[FernandoM]

God and the Bible easily tell us who is and isn't.
It is by that we judge others not hypocritical or personal judgment.
If you are obsessed with a movie series say Harry Potter or The Matrix or whatever and have lots of "stuff" pertaining to it and in effect is your idol and you tell someone else who does the same or less in that are "wrong" that is hypocritical judgment.
I straight so I and all who are have every right to judge the LGB and T+ and tell them "x, y, and z sin is wrong".

This wasn't about those who rightly expose dangerous politics.
It was about genuine children of God getting accused of not being so because of a biblical view point but uphold Jesus as the Saviour in their inward being.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Chris, you are teaching against God's word, God does not allow women to teach. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. 1 Timothy 2:12
Be blessed.

Even if that was your interpretation of that verse @romanianbeliever , why are you speaking with a lack of love and respect towards @complete ?

When ever did you see Jesus display such behavior to His sisters in Christ?

Perhaps you should consider apologizing, I'm sure @complete has more than enough Grace upon her

that she would readily forgive you for your seemingly abrupt and rude comment, pretty much

akin to telling her "shut up woman, don't talk to me".

Is that Christ like???

You do know that there are no 2nd class citizens in Christ do you?

Yes, yes, some have been called to different ministries, that is true, but we are all equal in Christ, even if our callings

may be different at times, we are all equal and co-heirs with Christ.

 

[Moloch]

From personal experience, biggest problem in the church today

Matthew 7:1-5​

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

 

[PloughBoy]

From personal experience, biggest problem in the church today

Matthew 7:1-5​

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Are not you well with this decision, if so, judge on, it is your right in some cases. Judge with a righteous judgment.
"For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you."

American Standard Version (John 7)
Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Leviticus 19:15
You must not pervert justice; you must not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the rich; you are to judge your neighbor fairly.

I do not think the text says: do not judge. It said; judge not, THAT you be not judge with the same judgement you use to judge another! In others words if your judgment is false of another and that person be found guilty of a crime by your judgment which was in error and the person suffered the consequence of your error in judgment> You will also suffering in the same way by error of another's judgment, Whatever a man sows the same shall he reap. So, to avoid such a dilemma, don't take the chance. But if you are willing, go ahead. If your judgment is in error so will another be in error against you and will sufferer for the error of another, same as a person suffered from your error. Every Child of The Living GOD, must be a "LAWYER" and Assess the moment that is in question.

Did i get the plank out of your eye?


The world is full of the wrong definitions, and the worlds interpretation are always 99.9 percent wrong Every time, they interpret GOD"S WORD or read it! No matter how clear it seems to be. Because GOD has Design it that WAY.

And if you think That the Institutional Church is the WAY to GOD, you are barking up the wrong tree, FOR JESUS is The Only WAY to get to GOD!

Now you choose, the church or Christ. There is only One WAY. Trust Christ or trust the church. you cannot trust both one will let you down the other will not. Choose.

 

[Twistie]

Are not you well with this decision, if so, judge on, it is your right in some cases. Judge with a righteous judgment.
"For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you."

American Standard Version (John 7)
Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Leviticus 19:15
You must not pervert justice; you must not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the rich; you are to judge your neighbor fairly.

I do not think the text says: do not judge. It said; judge not, THAT you be not judge with the same judgement you use to judge another! In others words if your judgment is false of another and that person be found guilty of a crime by your judgment which was in error and the person suffered the consequence of your error in judgment> You will also suffering in the same way by error of another's judgment, Whatever a man sows the same shall he reap. So, to avoid such a dilemma, don't take the chance. But if you are willing, go ahead. If your judgment is in error so will another be in error against you and will sufferer for the error of another, same as a person suffered from your error. Every Child of The Living GOD, must be a "LAWYER" and Assess the moment that is in question.

Did i get the plank out of your eye?


The world is full of the wrong definitions, and the worlds interpretation are always 99.9 percent wrong Every time, they interpret GOD"S WORD or read it! No matter how clear it seems to be. Because GOD has Design it that WAY.

And if you think That the Institutional Church is the WAY to GOD, you are barking up the wrong tree, FOR JESUS is The Only WAY to get to GOD!

Now you choose, the church or Christ. There is only One WAY. Trust Christ or trust the church. you cannot trust both one will let you down the other will not. Choose.

The gatherers as I call them most like to judge those they don't know sadly

They'll condemn a stranger quicker then helping one

Them false temples keep their people spiritually immature just like Satan wants them


Most worship the pastor above YH sad it is just sad

Twistie