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Who is guilty of the blood of the saints and prophets?

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Let’s now explore who is drunken and guilty of the blood of the saints and prophets, in order that we might better discern how the woman and "Mystery", Babylon the great is not just a brick and mortar city on the map somewhere.

In Revelation 17:5-6 we read;” And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.”

Now some say this woman refers to a brick and mortar city, but hopefully with some scriptural proof we will see the woman speaks of much more than a certain location on a map, but more of a "global" spiritually corrupt "worldly system" based on false beliefs and false religions of carnally minded men.

To prove the woman is global, and her ways effect "the whole earth" lets go to Revelation 16:1-6 “And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God "upon the earth". And the first went, and poured out his vial "upon the earth"; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea. And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. For "they" have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given "them" blood to drink; for "they" are worthy.”

Here we see the judgment of God’s wrath falls upon "the whole earth" not just a single city or a limited geographic location, because it is those who are of this world (and of the spirit of this world) who are guilty of the blood of the saints and prophets, not just a brick and mortar city like Jerusalem.

This can also be proven in Jesus’ words concerning the “wicked generation” or serpents seed. Matthew 23:33-36; “ Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.”

First thing notice the Lord calls them a generation of vipers, which are those who are of the serpents seed, as the Lord said in the beginning to the serpent that He would put enmity between the serpents seed (generation of vipers) and the woman’s seed (seed of promise in Christ). The serpent’s seed are those who are still of the "flesh", and the woman’s seed are those who are born again of Gods Spirit.

That allegory was shown in the 2 separate Jerusalem’s (earthly vs heavenly) and in their children (flesh vs. Spirit) in Galatians 4:23; “But he who was of the bond woman was born after the flesh; but he of the
freewoman was by promise.”

Notice Jesus also said they would be guilty of all the righteous blood that is shed upon "the earth"starting with the righteous blood of Abel. And so who killed Abel and what seed was Cain of? We are given the answer here in 1 John 3:12; “Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.”

In this we see the Lord didn’t single out any certain small generation like the Jews, or a small city like Jerusalem as some might understand it, but he foretold of the judgment and wrath that would fall upon a whole wicked and adulterous generation.
This generation of vipers are of their father the Devil, and they are also the ones who have persecuted and killed all the saints of "the world" since the time of Cain, even until now.

So when the judgment and wrath falls on Mystery, Babylon the “great city”, it shall be felt "globally", as this can also be confirmed by scripture. When the 7th angel pours out his vial into the air soon thereafter there is an great earthquake upon "the earth". Revelation 16:19 “And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of "the nations fell": and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

If Mystery Babylon the “great city” were a small brick and mortar city, it still would not cause “the cities of the nations to fall” if it only experienced a localized earthquake. And if that were the case it would also not cause all the merchants of "the earth" to bewail her falling. Revelation 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: Revelation 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,”

So this Mystery Babylon is much more than just a small place on the map, but more of a "global" spiritual system of wickedness and corruption working in commerce, governments, and even in many religions. As some have left their first love and played the Harlot with "the ways" of the world.

So when Jesus spoke of the end of this age in Luke 21:32 “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.” He was speaking to the whole wicked generation since iniquity was found in mankind until the Lord returns and consumes that Wicked, and iniquity shall have an end.

Notice the wording here concerning the Mystery, Babylon the great……

Revelation 18:24 “And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of "all that were slain upon the earth.”

I know of no single country or city in the world where the blood of "all that were ever slain" can be found, do you? But there is one “her” found in scripture that fits this description, and that is good ole Mother "Earth."

Notice the "earth" is mentioned as “her” several times in scripture, and notice she receives the blood…

Genesis 4:11 “And now art thou cursed from "the earth", which hath opened "her mouth" to receive thy brother's "blood" from thy hand;”

Notice the blood and slain go back to the earth….

Isaiah 26:21 “For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of "the earth" for their iniquity: "the earth" also shall disclose "her blood", and shall no more cover "her" slain.”

Deuteronomy 12:16 “Only ye shall not eat the blood; ye shall pour it upon the earth as water.”

Job 16:18 “O earth, cover not thou my blood, and let my cry have no place.”

Man was made from the dust of the earth, and the life of the flesh, which is "the blood" returns to the "earth"….
Ecclesiastes 12:7 “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

So this world/earth is like "the Mother" of all those who are "firstborn flesh", as we are all firstborn under the elements of the world being under the law of sin and death. But it is what is "in" the world (spiritual wickedness) that causes religious people to go and play the harlot with ""the ways of the world, which is sin, or ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Now the great ***** is not the earth itself, but rather it being a “spirit of wickedness” working "in" the world, she corrupts the earth with her fornication. (spirit of whoredoms)

Revelation 19:2 “For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great *****, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.”

Now it is also written in Revelation 17:18 “And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.”

I believe there is a connection between being "of" the world, and playing the harlot with "the ways" of the world, and hell; which leads us to where the great city that reigns over the Kings of the earth is located.
Basically you have 2 kingdoms, the Kingdom of Heaven and of Hell; just as there are 2 spiritual Jerusalem’s , one is of Heaven, the other is "of" this world/earth.

We know by scripture the god of this world is the Devil, but the Devil is also called the Angel and King over the children of hell, or the bottomless pit.

Jesus called the religious folk who had played the harlot with the ways of the world, the children of their father the devil, and Jesus also called them children of hell in Matthew 23:15 “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.”

In this we can see how the harlot church system can lead one to being "a citizen of hell" instead of being
a citizen of heaven. Which brings us to who is presently reigning in this wicked world in Luke 4:5-6 “And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.”

So Satan is like the god, Prince, or King of this present evil world system; but he is also shown as the King of the bottomless pit: who is also known as the Destroyer or Destruction. We know he has the power of death as is written in scripture. And we also know that death has "reigned" on this earth by sin ever since Adam. Romans 5:21

So where could the great city of Babylon be now that "reigns over "the kings of the earth if Destruction is their King; who also "reigns over them" by sin and death? I believe we are given the answer here, Notice the relocation of the king of Babylon and how the old golden city ceased, and also notice where the chief ones of the earth and all the kings of the nations are now located below….

Isaiah 14:4-15 “That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that "ruled the nations" in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. 8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.”

In the above we see where Satan and all the "past kings of the earth" are now "reigning", which is in hell.

To be continued...
 
But is there a connection between the spirit of whoredoms =“wickedness” and a seducing spirit ( great harlot) and the pit…

Proverbs 23:27 “For a ***** is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit.”

Strange woman/ woman with the attire of a harlot…

Proverbs 5:5 “Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

Proverbs 7:27 “Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.”

Proverbs 9:18 “But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.”

Now this is an interesting verse, notice how "hell" is spoken of as a "women" opening her mouth…

Isaiah 5:14 “Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.”

And that made me think of this verse here…

Revelation 12:16 “And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.”

That flood is a flood of lies and false doctrine spoken by many deceivers who would come and try to carry away God’s people with lies like a flood of ungodly men in 2 Samuel 22:5 “When the waves of death compassed me, the floods of ungodly men made me afraid;”

But we see the earth/hell would swallow them up, like in the story in Numbers 16:30 “But if the Lord make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the Lord.”

So there seems to be a connection with those who are of the earth/world and those religious types who play the harlot with the ways of the world=following after sin, and being a citizen of hell; where the former Kings of the earth now reign with Death and Destruction.

After all the 7 headed beast that carries the woman comes out of the bottomless pit….

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.”

So to me this confirms it is a system of “spiritual wickedness” working in high places that is carrying the woman because a physical resurrection does not happen until the last day.


More verses on hell/earth……

Ezekiel 31:14 “To the end that none of all the trees by the waters exalt themselves for their height, neither shoot up their top among the thick boughs, neither their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water: for they are all delivered unto death, to the nether parts of the earth, in the midst of the children of men, with them that go down to the pit.”

Deuteronomy 32:22 “For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.”

Psalm 9:17 “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.”

Psalm 55:15 “Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.”

Proverbs 15:24 “The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.”

Proverbs 23:14 “Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.”

Proverbs 27:20 “Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.”

Isaiah 5:14 “Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.”

Revelation 12:16 “And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.”

Numbers 16:30 “But if the Lord make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the Lord.”

Just as the Kingdom of heaven dwells within the Lords saints, I suppose the kingdom of hell would dwell inside sinners.

Psalm 5:9 “For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is very wickedness; their throat is an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue.”

Romans 3:13 “Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:”

Polluting the land/earth with their whoredoms….

Jeremiah 3:2 “Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness.”

Jeremiah 3:9 “And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.”

Isaiah 24:5 “The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the
laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.”

Genesis 6:11 “The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

Genesis 6:12 “And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

Hosea 1:2 “The beginning of the word of the Lord by Hosea. And the Lord said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the Lord.”

Hosea 5:4 “They will not frame their doings to turn unto their God: for the spirit of whoredoms is in the midst of them, and they have not known the Lord.”

I believe this spirit of whoredoms is what caused many to have a *****’s forehead, as is also written. This to me also explains the “name” written on the woman’s forehead.

I hope this little study shed some light on some of these many mysteries and spiritual truths.

Peace and God bless
 
If they are of the “serpents seed” and are of that “wicked generation” and are of the “harlot” religious system, then they also would be included as a part of the whole.

Revelation 11:6-9 (NKJV) These have the power to shut heaven so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.
When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
And their dead bodies will lie in the street of
the Great City which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies for three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves.


The image, of the beast

Genesis 1:25 (And God made the beast of the earth after his kind and cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeping thing upon the earth.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created them.

Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.

Genesis 1:31 And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth days.

Rev 13:15 He was granted the power to give breath to the image of the man-beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

Rev 14:9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the man-beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand,

Romans 1:23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and unclean birds and unclean four-footed animals and unclean creeping things. (Romans 1:24)

Rev 13:5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months.

2 Thess 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan,

2 Thess 2:8-9 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

2 Thess 1:6-8 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

2 Thess 1:8 For our God is a consuming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: (Hebrews 12:29)
 
Let’s now explore who is drunken and guilty of the blood of the saints and prophets, in order that we might better discern how the woman and "Mystery", Babylon the great is not just a brick and mortar city on the map somewhere.

In Revelation 17:5-6 we read;” And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.”

Now some say this woman refers to a brick and mortar city, but hopefully with some scriptural proof we will see the woman speaks of much more than a certain location on a map, but more of a "global" spiritually corrupt "worldly system" based on false beliefs and false religions of carnally minded men.

To prove the woman is global, and her ways effect "the whole earth" lets go to Revelation 16:1-6 “And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God "upon the earth". And the first went, and poured out his vial "upon the earth"; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea. And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. For "they" have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given "them" blood to drink; for "they" are worthy.”

Here we see the judgment of God’s wrath falls upon "the whole earth" not just a single city or a limited geographic location, because it is those who are of this world (and of the spirit of this world) who are guilty of the blood of the saints and prophets, not just a brick and mortar city like Jerusalem.

This can also be proven in Jesus’ words concerning the “wicked generation” or serpents seed. Matthew 23:33-36; “ Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.”

First thing notice the Lord calls them a generation of vipers, which are those who are of the serpents seed, as the Lord said in the beginning to the serpent that He would put enmity between the serpents seed (generation of vipers) and the woman’s seed (seed of promise in Christ). The serpent’s seed are those who are still of the "flesh", and the woman’s seed are those who are born again of Gods Spirit.

That allegory was shown in the 2 separate Jerusalem’s (earthly vs heavenly) and in their children (flesh vs. Spirit) in Galatians 4:23; “But he who was of the bond woman was born after the flesh; but he of the
freewoman was by promise.”

Notice Jesus also said they would be guilty of all the righteous blood that is shed upon "the earth"starting with the righteous blood of Abel. And so who killed Abel and what seed was Cain of? We are given the answer here in 1 John 3:12; “Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.”

In this we see the Lord didn’t single out any certain small generation like the Jews, or a small city like Jerusalem as some might understand it, but he foretold of the judgment and wrath that would fall upon a whole wicked and adulterous generation.
This generation of vipers are of their father the Devil, and they are also the ones who have persecuted and killed all the saints of "the world" since the time of Cain, even until now.

So when the judgment and wrath falls on Mystery, Babylon the “great city”, it shall be felt "globally", as this can also be confirmed by scripture. When the 7th angel pours out his vial into the air soon thereafter there is an great earthquake upon "the earth". Revelation 16:19 “And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of "the nations fell": and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

If Mystery Babylon the “great city” were a small brick and mortar city, it still would not cause “the cities of the nations to fall” if it only experienced a localized earthquake. And if that were the case it would also not cause all the merchants of "the earth" to bewail her falling. Revelation 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: Revelation 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,”

So this Mystery Babylon is much more than just a small place on the map, but more of a "global" spiritual system of wickedness and corruption working in commerce, governments, and even in many religions. As some have left their first love and played the Harlot with "the ways" of the world.

So when Jesus spoke of the end of this age in Luke 21:32 “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.” He was speaking to the whole wicked generation since iniquity was found in mankind until the Lord returns and consumes that Wicked, and iniquity shall have an end.

Notice the wording here concerning the Mystery, Babylon the great……

Revelation 18:24 “And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of "all that were slain upon the earth.”

I know of no single country or city in the world where the blood of "all that were ever slain" can be found, do you? But there is one “her” found in scripture that fits this description, and that is good ole Mother "Earth."

Notice the "earth" is mentioned as “her” several times in scripture, and notice she receives the blood…

Genesis 4:11 “And now art thou cursed from "the earth", which hath opened "her mouth" to receive thy brother's "blood" from thy hand;”

Notice the blood and slain go back to the earth….

Isaiah 26:21 “For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of "the earth" for their iniquity: "the earth" also shall disclose "her blood", and shall no more cover "her" slain.”

Deuteronomy 12:16 “Only ye shall not eat the blood; ye shall pour it upon the earth as water.”

Job 16:18 “O earth, cover not thou my blood, and let my cry have no place.”

Man was made from the dust of the earth, and the life of the flesh, which is "the blood" returns to the "earth"….
Ecclesiastes 12:7 “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

So this world/earth is like "the Mother" of all those who are "firstborn flesh", as we are all firstborn under the elements of the world being under the law of sin and death. But it is what is "in" the world (spiritual wickedness) that causes religious people to go and play the harlot with ""the ways of the world, which is sin, or ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Now the great ***** is not the earth itself, but rather it being a “spirit of wickedness” working "in" the world, she corrupts the earth with her fornication. (spirit of whoredoms)

Revelation 19:2 “For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great *****, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.”

Now it is also written in Revelation 17:18 “And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.”

I believe there is a connection between being "of" the world, and playing the harlot with "the ways" of the world, and hell; which leads us to where the great city that reigns over the Kings of the earth is located.
Basically you have 2 kingdoms, the Kingdom of Heaven and of Hell; just as there are 2 spiritual Jerusalem’s , one is of Heaven, the other is "of" this world/earth.

We know by scripture the god of this world is the Devil, but the Devil is also called the Angel and King over the children of hell, or the bottomless pit.

Jesus called the religious folk who had played the harlot with the ways of the world, the children of their father the devil, and Jesus also called them children of hell in Matthew 23:15 “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.”

In this we can see how the harlot church system can lead one to being "a citizen of hell" instead of being
a citizen of heaven. Which brings us to who is presently reigning in this wicked world in Luke 4:5-6 “And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.”

So Satan is like the god, Prince, or King of this present evil world system; but he is also shown as the King of the bottomless pit: who is also known as the Destroyer or Destruction. We know he has the power of death as is written in scripture. And we also know that death has "reigned" on this earth by sin ever since Adam. Romans 5:21

So where could the great city of Babylon be now that "reigns over "the kings of the earth if Destruction is their King; who also "reigns over them" by sin and death? I believe we are given the answer here, Notice the relocation of the king of Babylon and how the old golden city ceased, and also notice where the chief ones of the earth and all the kings of the nations are now located below….

Isaiah 14:4-15 “That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that "ruled the nations" in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. 8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.”

In the above we see where Satan and all the "past kings of the earth" are now "reigning", which is in hell.

To be continued...
Scripture is written in both the spiritual and the physical , it is a reflection of the Author, Jesus. Both God and Man . So when we read scripture , we must take these things into account.

You are right to say the Witnesses are more than just Two men, but they are also of Two Men.

The Harlot spoken of in scripture is also both a city and a way of thinking as you have implied.

All of Rev, is written this way.. it is something to grasp..

Peace Always, Bill
 
Scripture is written in both the spiritual and the physical , it is a reflection of the Author, Jesus. Both God and Man . So when we read scripture , we must take these things into account.

You are right to say the Witnesses are more than just Two men, but they are also of Two Men.

The Harlot spoken of in scripture is also both a city and a way of thinking as you have implied.

All of Rev, is written this way.. it is something to grasp..

Peace Always, Bill
An important thing to remember is, God uses things in nature, or natural things to “liken” or symbolize spiritual things. This is the way Jesus taught as well using parables.

The book of Revelation is very symbolic, not to be taken at face value. But the wording in the book of Revelation can be found in other parts of scripture, one needs to search them out.

But even still, one must have the Holy Spirit to illuminate their understanding into that symbolic language by comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

1 Corinthians 2:10-13

King James Version

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.”
 
An important thing to remember is, God uses things in nature, or natural things to “liken” or symbolize spiritual things. This is the way Jesus taught as well using parables.

The book of Revelation is very symbolic, not to be taken at face value. But the wording in the book of Revelation can be found in other parts of scripture, one needs to search them out.

But even still, one must have the Holy Spirit to illuminate their understanding into that symbolic language by comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

1 Corinthians 2:10-13​

King James Version​

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.”
Conclusion ?
 
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