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Why it's so important NOT TO SIN!!!

Jonah2005bt

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We are not perfect, there's no getting away from that, and GOD realizes that fact.

But what GOD does expect from us all is to at least try, with all our might meaning the very best we can do & to continue on trying, never-ever giving up. {Deuteronomy 6:5, Mark 12:30 & 12:33, Luke 10:27, Deuteronomy 4:29} And this means to try with all our might not to SIN!

Just because we see so & so sinning, getting away with it & making progress - doesn't mean that it's OK - it is still not righteous. These people that live their lives in sin are usually very unhappy & end up never -or- not really knowing GOD for who HE really is. {Ezekiel 3:18-19, James 4:1-17, Ephesians 4:17-32}

And just because we may see so & so 'hardly ever' sin, doesn't mean when he/she does sin it's OK, for a sin is still a sin, no matter what. {Ezekiel 3:20-21, James 4:1-17, Ephesians 4:17-32}

Yes Jesus did die for us all, in hope that we would be saved. And His death was the ransom sacrifice for us all - for our sins.

This doesn't mean that it's OK to go out into the world and sin just because you might feel the need to. NO! Heaven forbid! That would be like saying that Jesus' teachings and His sacrifice was for nothing.

Some times, though we do sin by accident, but what's so important to remember is NOT TO SIN ! Why? Because we are imperfect? Yes!

But also, because the more we sin the more we are trapped into the prison of sin, meaning bad habits are being formed - and bad habits are hard to break.

And the more we do not sin, the more good & righteous habits are being formed & the more holy we become.

Even if; "we are pressed on every side by troubles, but not crushed and broken. We are perplexed because we don't know why things happen as they do, but we don't give up and quit." {2 Corinthians 4:8}

"We are hunted down, but God never abandons us. We get knocked down, but we get up again and keep going." {2 Corinthians 4:9}

So when Jesus does come for us, He will find us doing the things that He had asked us to do. He will find us living according tho GOD'S Rules & Regulations. The work we were meant to do.

Concentrate on righteousness & do your very, very best not to sin, so that you won't form more & more bad habits, but instead making good & righteous habits.

This is what it means to be strong & to stand firm with all our might, until the end. {Matthew 10:22}

Go to Church & to the Congregation, hang around with people that you know want to Worship & Serve The Almighty GOD. Get to know them & share what you have learned & listen to what they have learned. {2 Peter 1:20, Proverbs 3:5} *genesis!
 
Hi there,

"But what GOD does expect from us all is to at least try, with all our might meaning the very best we can do & to continue on trying, never-ever giving up. {Deuteronomy 6:5, Mark 12:30 & 12:33, Luke 10:27, Deuteronomy 4:29} And this means to try with all our might not to SIN!"

I don't like to disagree with you but the above quote sounds like a sure-fire recipe for complete defeat in the Christian life. The best efforts of man will only produce a Romans 7:14-24 experience.

There's is only one type of victory in the Christian life and that is Christ's Victory, when He died for our sins and rose for our justification Romans 4:25.
Every born again believer is now in Christ! That is the Spirit of Christ has taken up residence within their born again spirit and the two have become one Spirit! And their body has become God's temple. So that puts Christian's in the unique position of being in the victory over sin and everything else that's of the devil!
There are many, many scriptures that speak of Jesus' Victory over sin, death and the grave and this is the victory He brings to us when we are born again and become a new creature in Christ.

As Christian's we know we could not be saved by our works but we were justified by God's free gift of Grace. But many fail to realise that victory is also a free gift of God's grace, it's part of our inheritance in Christ who dwells within us by his Spirit.

In the latter verses of Romans 8 Paul speaks of all the things that could be against us and says “... in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.” Meaning we are actually stronger after the trial than we were before it. It is the release of the glorious, victorious life of Christ within us that causes us to reign in life.

I am more than a conqueror, I am in the victory because the Victor dwells within me and so are you if you are born again.

Blessings,

Tonyb:icon_biggrin:
 
It's not about us and how we try. It's about Jesus. Jesus overcame the world. Only by the blood of the Lamb do we have victory in every situation.

We are weak, but He is strong. Only the Holy Spirit can guide us away from sin and show us a way out from temptation. It's not about trying. Many people who tried very hard, sadly, will not have eternal life in heaven, and that is so sad.

Jesus is the reason for the season. Jesus is the reason for talkJesus. Jesus is the only reason my heart is free. Every day I mess up and think or do wrong, but He keeps guiding me and forgiving me. It's all about Him. I am nothing without Him.
 
I think I understand what Jonah2005bt is saying. It is true that our righteousness is in Christ and we must not loose sight of the fact that it is only by depending on Christ that we can be victorious over sin.

However, the bible also says in Phil 2:12 "So then, my beloved, just as you always obeyed, not as in my presence only, _but_ now much more in my absence, be working out your own salvation with fear and trembling" Analytical-Literal Translation
 
I think I understand what Jonah2005bt is saying. It is true that our righteousness is in Christ and we must not loose sight of the fact that it is only by depending on Christ that we can be victorious over sin.

However, the bible also says in Phil 2:12 "So then, my beloved, just as you always obeyed, not as in my presence only, _but_ now much more in my absence, be working out your own salvation with fear and trembling" Analytical-Literal Translation

Hi mecatrz,

We are in Christ and Salvation is in Christ and as you mentioned, it does need to be worked out in our daily lives. I guess it's all part of the learning, growing process.

1 Peter 2: 2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby...

Romans 12: 2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind...

2 Peter 3: 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...

Ephesians 4: 14-15 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ—

Blessings,

Tonyb:icon_wink:
 
"For it is by grace you are saved, not by works; it is the gift of God so no man can boast." (Eph 2;8-9)

'nuff said,

SLE
 
This is an area where some people think that God "punishes" those who make mistakes. God loves us and allows us to learn from our wrong-doing, but does not punish in my opinion.
Examples:
A person gets overwhelmed by credit card debt. They did it to themselves and has to pay the price of all that interest. Some would say that's God's punishment. I don't believe so.

Or their car is towed away from an area that has a time limit. Another may say that's also God's punishment for doing wrong. Again I disagree.

Even at "The Judgement", if not found in the "Book of Life" so not allowed into heaven. I don't believe this is punishment because that person chose that path.

God is Love and has shown that in so many ways.
Is this proper Biblical thinking?
 
God allows consequences to happen that correspond with our sinful actions.
He disciplines those He loves. I don't like the word "punish" either, it seems not a just word, and God is a just God.

Sometimes my husband says that my daughter needs punishment. That word sounds so harsh and loveless. And I say something like this? "Can we not just discipline her?" And then he says, "It's the same thing!" But to me, discipline is consequences for action, punishment is harsh and long and there is no love involved.

Punishment is like....being put into jail, or being put into an electric chair.

Discipline is like...working and volunteering and giving up things that give us pleasure, like t.v., phone, computer, or when a child is "grounded".

One thing I've noticed about non-christians...you can really tell that they are not sons of God....they never seem to have any consequences for their actions. God says He disciplines his own sons and daughters, for He loves them. In the last day, you are right, Buddy 2, if a person did not choose God, he will not inherit eternal life...and it was his own choice.
 
Re: Why It is So Important Not To Sin

This is an area where some people think that God "punishes" those who make mistakes. God loves us and allows us to learn from our wrong-doing, but does not punish in my opinion.
Examples:
A person gets overwhelmed by credit card debt. They did it to themselves and has to pay the price of all that interest. Some would say that's God's punishment. I don't believe so.

Or their car is towed away from an area that has a time limit. Another may say that's also God's punishment for doing wrong. Again I disagree.

Even at "The Judgement", if not found in the "Book of Life" so not allowed into heaven. I don't believe this is punishment because that person chose that path.

God is Love and has shown that in so many ways.
Is this proper Biblical thinking?


Maybe we need to rethink how we define punishment. Maybe we ought to view punishment strictly in terms of being condemned to Hell for unrepentant sin as opposed to suffering the consequences of mistakes.

This thread reminds me of a cartoon I saw years ago (The Far Side by Gary Larsen) which showed God sitting at a desk in the heavens with His fist poised over an electronic box that had a large button on it labeled "SMITE".

I agree with Buddy2 and Dreamer; God does not want to pound us into smithereens for every sin. He is into forgiveness.

SLE
 
Maybe we need to rethink how we define punishment. Maybe we ought to view punishment strictly in terms of being condemned to Hell for unrepentant sin as opposed to suffering the consequences of mistakes.

This thread reminds me of a cartoon I saw years ago (The Far Side by Gary Larsen) which showed God sitting at a desk in the heavens with His fist poised over an electronic box that had a large button on it labeled "SMITE".

I agree with Buddy2 and Dreamer; God does not want to pound us into smithereens for every sin. He is into forgiveness.

SLE

Very true. The Bible says somewhere that God's judgement is unto righteousness. He desires to reconcile us unto Himself and not condemn us. It is also true that our experiences, actions and inactions, have their effects which we bear and atimes that the Lord intervenes in His mercy, which is also a form of judgment and delivers us from the full effect of actions. Atimes, he allows effects take their course so that we may listen and hear Him and repent. God does not tempt any man with evil the Bible also says. Whatever He does, He does in righteousness for our own good. May the ministry of His rod and staff (Ps 23) be effective in our lives to bring us into His rest.

I yeild to His judgement so that I can become a mature son who has with experience learnt to discern right from wrong, I look to a time when I will no longer be under the ministry of the rod. A spiritually grown son (not as we define spiritual maturity with how much we know) who is obedient and submissive to the Lord in all things ceases to be judged as was the case with Paul the apostle. May we all yeild to His righteous, loving judgement so that we become His Priests, Prophets and Kings to our generation! Amen. Rom 8:18-25 'For I calculate that the sufferings of the present time are not worthy to compare to the coming glory to be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly awaits the revelation of the sons of God. For the creation was not willingly subjected to vanity, but through Him subjecting it, on hope; that also the creation will be freed from the slavery of corruption to the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that all the creation groans together and travails together until now. And not only so, but also we ourselves having the firstfruit of the Spirit, also we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly expecting adoption, the redemption of our body; for we were saved by hope, but hope being seen is not hope; for what anyone sees, why does he also hope? But if we hope for what we do not see, through patience we wait eagerly.' (Literal Translation)


It is also true that for unrepentant sin and all who reject the Saviour, God's righteous judgement is eternal seperation from Him. Rom 1:18-22 'For God's wrath is revealed from Heaven on all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, holding the truth in unrighteousness, because the thing known of God is clearly known within them, for God revealed it to them. For the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things made, both His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse. Because knowing God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful. But they became vain in their reasonings, and their undiscerning heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became foolish' (Literal Translation)
 
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